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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Posted - 2011.03.03 22:45:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: mkmin
Holy jeebus folks, give it a rest. They've hired the guy. They are working out the code so that effects are easier to change rather than being integrated deep into the code. I don't particularly follow the topic, but even I know that CCP's already responded to the noise.


One noncommital response over 18 months ago is not a sufficient response. It may have calmed the masses for a while, but it has obviously slipped between the cracks (again). Your assertions that it's being worked on have no basis in fact. You're obviously trolling, or know that your position is untenable, because you've posted this on an alt. Hence, your opinion carries no weight. Shoo. Rolling Eyes

Soma Khan
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.04 13:33:00 - [32]
 

engine trails? walking avatars don't need no engine trails

big miker
Minmatar
Red Federation
Posted - 2011.03.04 14:31:00 - [33]
 

Originally by: Soma Khan
engine trails? walking avatars don't need no engine trails


becuase of farts

Kivak Wolf
Lions of Judah Incorporated
Posted - 2011.03.31 05:34:00 - [34]
 

Bring back the old cyno! Come on CCP, at least respond!

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.03.31 08:37:00 - [35]
 

Have you ever seen a Vampire use Cyno? Why would CCP waste resources on something that cant be used in EMOMMO they are making now?

mkmin
Posted - 2011.03.31 08:40:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Rasz Lin
Have you ever seen a Vampire use Cyno? Why would CCP waste resources on something that cant be used in EMOMMO they are making now?

You know, for a few minutes there a couple months ago I thought CCP might actually start doing stuff because it was what their loyal customers asked for. Now I'm starting to be convinced that if it doesn't bring in $ they won't do it. When they do get around to it, I guarantee it will feature heavily into the trailers as though it's a title feature (to help sell more subs.)

Neutrino Sunset
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2011.03.31 12:47:00 - [37]
 

Originally by: Shade Millith
I don't think we could even trust any CCP member that replies. They've lied multiple times about "We're working on it" when they obviously haven't. It didn't take them a ****ing year and a half to make the first cyno graphics now did it?

AKA, CCP doesn't give a ****. They took out something popular, put crap in it's place, and said "**** you, live with it"


Bitter... but oh so true :(

Cold32
The Alpha and the Omega
Posted - 2011.05.15 07:16:00 - [38]
 

Every test server patch, I log in fuel up and get a cyno next door BECAUSE JUST MAYBE.
I cross my fingers as I light the cyno and hover over the jump to button,
Everytime... Dissapointment

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.05.15 07:52:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: Cold32
Every test server patch, I log in fuel up and get a cyno next door BECAUSE JUST MAYBE.
I cross my fingers as I light the cyno and hover over the jump to button,
Everytime... Dissapointment

Read recent 'devs-answer-any-question'-answer thread in the information portal..
They got a special dude doing cyno/engine-trails for some months now.. just looks like the dude either has been gagged (an update on his work via blog would be nice) or he can't show stuff yet (wrong dude?)

Zoloft Rx
Posted - 2011.05.15 10:26:00 - [40]
 

Edited by: Zoloft Rx on 15/05/2011 10:28:51
old cyno effect were stupid, looked like a bunch of hershey kisses dropped randomly on the ground - making it look like ships where shooting of into random directions (not going to the same solar system). Stop saying you want the old ones back when theres so many other new possibilities.

EDIT:
Hershey kisses example is when more than one chip cynos out on the same grid at the same time.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.05.15 10:54:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Tippia
…not to mention the old ECCM effect (i.e. nothing), the old sebo effect, pretty much all of the old ewar effects and remote-support effects.

I suppose they can keep the tractor and salvage effects, but the rest need to be binned. ECCM in particular.
Oh yes, the ECCM effect is nauseating at best. Sebo effects are nearly as bad, especially if the fleet is quite large.
Most of the old effects, were far better on the eye and told you what you needed to know.

I have most effects turned off now, due to how bad they are.

Bael Gar
Posted - 2011.07.10 21:03:00 - [42]
 

Oh, no! They have closed our beloved topic!
**Petition**For Bringing back the OLD cyno EFFECTs IMMEDIATELY (WHEN?)

This is terrible!

Tosser Galore
Posted - 2011.07.10 21:35:00 - [43]
 

LINKAGE


*Bump for justice.

BLACK-STAR
Posted - 2011.07.11 00:54:00 - [44]
 

well that 2009 petition thread finally closed on itself..

I recall CCP saying they're "working on it" but it has been years. Much like they don't care about proper planet alignments so you warp through them, ship scaling, ewar effects boring, warpfield kinda sucks, cynojump sucks, moons are all the same. NO COMETS! and not enough space phenomena. It goes on.


CCP get'er done!

AnzacPaul
Perkone
Posted - 2011.07.11 01:58:00 - [45]
 

+1

But we all know the only time a CCP Dev ever posts here is to

Make a smart/humourous comment on a topic not related directly to Eve technical,
state that they arent in a position to answer the given question because its not there area
or
to tell us a blog of some sort is on the way and should be released within a few days

Krystal Flores
Amarr
Missions Mining and Mayhem
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.08.22 15:54:00 - [46]
 

Bump for great justice, at this rate its just a matter of time ccp makes all effects bland and uses the entire art department for nex.
Just show anyone the old and new jumps, $5 on the old one every time.

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.08.22 16:03:00 - [47]
 

youtube doesn't want to show this movie. "Deleted by author"....

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.08.22 16:05:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Black Omne
On a related note, I have not done any missions in quite some time, and I did a couple and noticed the acceleration gate effect was removed at some point. When did that go away??? I thought it was cool when you activated a gate the energy tendrils would reach out for your ship, plus it also made it easier to see when one of your gang activated the gate...



I still see them, tweak your graphics settings to see if it is just disabled for you, etc.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.08.22 17:02:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Tippia
…not to mention the old ECCM effect (i.e. nothing), the old sebo effect, pretty much all of the old ewar effects and remote-support effects.

The current effects for these are truly disgusting. It's hard to believe there is actually any kind of art direction at CCP these days.

Hicksimus
Gallente
Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company
Posted - 2011.08.22 17:32:00 - [50]
 

Woah wait, are you suggesting they make spaceship content!? Spaceship content doesn't make them any money......oh wait, this just in, its a ****ing spaceship game.

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.08.22 18:16:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Mendolus on 22/08/2011 18:16:25
Originally by: Hicksimus
Woah wait, are you suggesting they make spaceship content!? Spaceship content doesn't make them any money......oh wait, this just in, its a ****ing spaceship game.


This just in, they've been promising avatars for years and years, and people went from complaining it hadn't been released yet, to complaining that it had.

Bet you're one of them ^, aren't ya? Wink

Not saying that Incarna is the most wonderful expansion ever by any means, but CCP has been harangued by its own subscribers for years and years to finally put it out, and now that they have there is this sea of nincompoops complaining that CCP did not spend every waking moment on the expansion for spaceship content and spaceship content alone.

Where were you the last five years?

Hicksimus
Gallente
Mom's Friendly Spaceship Company
Posted - 2011.08.22 18:51:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: Mendolus
Edited by: Mendolus on 22/08/2011 18:16:25
Originally by: Hicksimus
Woah wait, are you suggesting they make spaceship content!? Spaceship content doesn't make them any money......oh wait, this just in, its a ****ing spaceship game.


This just in, they've been promising avatars for years and years, and people went from complaining it hadn't been released yet, to complaining that it had.

Bet you're one of them ^, aren't ya? Wink

Not saying that Incarna is the most wonderful expansion ever by any means, but CCP has been harangued by its own subscribers for years and years to finally put it out, and now that they have there is this sea of nincompoops complaining that CCP did not spend every waking moment on the expansion for spaceship content and spaceship content alone.

Where were you the last five years?



Maybe you missed the part where people wanted WiS with other players and not 5-6 years spent to give us 1 bedroom. In 5-6 years entire games are made and we get 1 bedroom followed by a year or more of solitary confinement. Don't get hitched up on the work load either, each account pays CCP up to the value of 3 AAA titles per year, so for the value of 15 AAA titles players have been rewarded with a small bedroom and clothes that cost more than they would in real life.

Yes they also made other things happen in those 4 years, but the fact remains that people have paid CCP the value of 15 AAA titles and CCP certainly hasn't provided 1 AAA title worth of content. Confused

James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.08.22 18:56:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: James Razor on 22/08/2011 18:58:50
Originally by: Mendolus
Edited by: Mendolus on 22/08/2011 18:16:25
Originally by: Hicksimus
Woah wait, are you suggesting they make spaceship content!? Spaceship content doesn't make them any money......oh wait, this just in, its a ****ing spaceship game.


This just in, they've been promising avatars for years and years, and people went from complaining it hadn't been released yet, to complaining that it had.

Bet you're one of them ^, aren't ya? Wink

Not saying that Incarna is the most wonderful expansion ever by any means, but CCP has been harangued by its own subscribers for years and years to finally put it out, and now that they have there is this sea of nincompoops complaining that CCP did not spend every waking moment on the expansion for spaceship content and spaceship content alone.

Where were you the last five years?


One Sentence: Expectation Management.

Or better said the lack of it. Latest after the *Future Vision* Trailer we expected WAY more than a crappy, resource eating rusty MINMATAR single room Flat that takes ages to load, takes away half of the funtionality the old Hangar view hand and has horrible light setups.

I am AMARRIAN FFS. I fly Minmatar ships if i have to out of practical reasons. But i would NEVER live in this Minmatar CQ ever. I did set it of on all my accounts and get presented with the door that leads out every time i log in.
Very intelligent move anyway with that door.

Also, for the old effects, just watch the MC Lacrimosa Video, or the Outbreak one.

-> Links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NDBbt2yBII&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHAncmIswvc&feature=related

+ Outbreak Redux for all the Nyx Fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wvmot7F4S4&feature=related

EDIT: found the HD Link for the Lacrimosa Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYEaPLCCIrY&feature=related

Mendolus
Aurelius Federation
Posted - 2011.08.22 19:05:00 - [54]
 

Edited by: Mendolus on 22/08/2011 19:27:21
Originally by: James Razor

One Sentence: Expectation Management.

Or better said the lack of it. Latest after the *Future Vision* Trailer we expected WAY more than a crappy, resource eating rusty MINMATAR single room Flat that takes ages to load, takes away half of the funtionality the old Hangar view hand and has horrible light setups.

I am AMARRIAN FFS. I fly Minmatar ships if i have to out of practical reasons. But i would NEVER live in this Minmatar CQ ever. I did set it of on all my accounts and get presented with the door that leads out every time i log in.
Very intelligent move anyway with that door.

Also, for the old effects, just watch the MC Lacrimosa Video, or the Outbreak one.

-> Links:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NDBbt2yBII&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHAncmIswvc&feature=related

+ Outbreak Redux for all the Nyx Fans:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wvmot7F4S4&feature=related

EDIT: found the HD Link for the Lacrimosa Video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYEaPLCCIrY&feature=related



Oh I know, that's why I included the bit about not saying Incarna is the best expansion by any means. It is certainly underwhelming, but if you read between the lines you can see that the devs just bit off way more than they're ever going to be able to chew, which fits with their proven track record of doing that with pretty much every expansion.

Cannot blame them for dreaming big, but at some point most of us just want the girl next door since we will likely never have the supermodel we fantasize about and surprisingly enough the likelihood of the supermodel making us happier than the aforementioned girl we already have so much in common with is pretty slim. Who knows, she could be terrible in bed too, all that pretty packaging and no home delivery! ... :)

CCP could have aimed a lot lower for Incarna, and put it out years ago, and we would have been mostly satisfied I think, even if it wasn't the most sparkly amazing technological feat we had ever seen, but someone over there has a habit of pulling all the stops and trying to set sail on their own projects off into the clouds, and wherever we end up is where they run out of steam and move onto the next idea.

I can't fault them personally, grandiose plans are much more entertaining than the doldrums of just making do, but when it starts to cost us over time, i.e. the past 3-4 expansions have been either disastrous or secondary to the game at heart, then that is where I agree, there is a big problem in the trending pattern of development at CCP.

Incarna itself, had it happened in lieu of Incursion for example, might have largely gone unnoticed, but having come after repeated expansions that had little to do with the core of the game and were more additions to complete the big dream, I think most of us do just want spaceships back, and hopefully we are going to get it, now that avatars are finally out of the bag.


It's this kneejerk reaction of 'omg CCP, I can't believe you delivered on your promise to at least some degree!' that really riles me up and makes me wonder if the vast majority of people that come here were not even around a short year or two ago, because they seem to clearly miss the fact that CCP has been promising and fending off the naysayers for years and years that avatars would be released at some point in the future, i.e. soon...

Where are those people now?

James Razor
Amarr
Fallen Angel's
White Noise.
Posted - 2011.08.22 19:23:00 - [55]
 

There was a lot of rumors concerning that we currently are just Beta Testing for other games currently in development and that this also was the reason they forced CQ on us so they can get more data about it.

And the other Problem is: They ALWAYS change stuff that is not broken (and even if this gets me baned) i still want to skin that guy alive, if i ever meet him, who decided to change the Navy Apoc into this artistic failure. Or did choose WOODLAND camouflage in Space -.- .

There was NOTHING broken with the old Faction Vessels, but they changed them. There was NOTHING broken with the old Cyno Effects, but they changed them. There was NOTHING broken with the Hangar View (especialy compared to CQ or *The Door*), still, they changed it.

Even the new turret effects are nothing that i did want, especially as there is so much other stuff that is broken in the game (i.e. Hybrids, POSes, Role Management, CYNO EFFECTS !!!).

Oh, and not to forget that they changed the Maller instead of the Naglfar, which also has been asked since a while because of its broken setup which was repeatedly turned down with the excuse that it would be too much work to redesign a ship. Which obviously was a lie (-> Scorpion, Maller)

Especially as these new ship models dont quiet actually fit with the rest of the game. But again, CCP does what they want, not what the community wants or even what would be needed to improve the game.

And btw.: I am a bitter Veteran and i am proud of it.

Barbie D0ll
Posted - 2011.08.22 20:09:00 - [56]
 

Eve is becoming dead
the new CCP fad is sparkly vampires taken straight out of twilight crap, apparently they want more teenage girls online...
for us to grief YARRRR!!
but seriously though, supposedly CCP only has 10% or 15% of their actual staff working on EVE, and has been for the last, 2-3 years I think?

thats why so much of EVE is unfinished is they are working on 'more important' things.

I know the employees are hard at work, we occasionally have good things coming out, but we can see CCP's "priorities" when the noctis salvager range bug came into effect and they fixed that within a week when there are FAR MORE IMPORTANT bugs and exploits that may never get fixed. unfortuanately, I cannot give specific examples as the forums rules I cannot bring up old exploits, the story behind them, and how long it took for them to be fixed.

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
Posted - 2011.08.22 22:25:00 - [57]
 

CCP: HEY GUYS CHECK OUT OUR NEW CYNO EFFECT!

Players: Ummm... It looks exactly the same as the wormhole effect, and the web effect, and the gate jump effect.. You just recycled the same effect on 4 different things. Is this what your graphics guy has been bigging up for the last few months? Some slightly different NOS graphics and the same space puddle reused 4 times?

CCP: IT'S UMMM... IT'S JUST A PLACEHOLDER GUYS WE HAVE A NEW GRAPHIC DESIGNER WORKING ON IT, IT'S AT THE TOP OF HIS LIST!



******Tumbleweeds******


Months later -

CCP: HEY GUYS, WANNA BUY A NEW SKIRT?



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