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Kesler Laduko
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.18 14:30:00 - [1]
 

Ladies and gentlemen , I am growing tired of can flipping miners while I wait for my skills to improve so I can go hold my own in lowsec. What else is there to do to pester people besides **** off miners?

Although, the 6 people that showed up to "defend" the miner I flipped last night was pretty funny...considering none of them were of the same corp that the miner was.

Inappropriate content removed as per the forum rules.StevieSG

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.18 14:38:00 - [2]
 

The obvious answer is to stop training your skills, that way you won't have to wait for them anymore.

Kesler Laduko
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.18 15:01:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Kesler Laduko on 18/02/2011 15:01:35
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
The obvious answer is to stop training your skills, that way you won't have to wait for them anymore.


You sir are a wealth of knowledge and experience. I am humbled by your presence in my thread and that you took the time....to...wait..

Sorry, wrong script. Ah, here we go. Ahem..

Go **** yourself. Very Happy

Syndryna
Posted - 2011.02.18 15:08:00 - [4]
 

Um, go into lowsec anyway? Why do you need to wait for skills to get higher?

Rawls Canardly
Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.02.18 15:09:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Rawls Canardly on 18/02/2011 15:10:54
You could always join a corp that wardecs half of eve a lot, and has a fleet at it's back... YARRRR!!
But seriously, if you want to yarr, you don't have to wait on your skills. I've seen week-old rifter pilots take down megathrons solo. just know your prey, and know your limits, and you'll be fine.

Kesler Laduko
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.18 15:10:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Syndryna
Um, go into lowsec anyway? Why do you need to wait for skills to get higher?


Because at this point, if I take on anything past a half ass fit destroyer, ship goes boom.

Rawls Canardly
Special Forces Operation Detachment Delta
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.02.18 15:12:00 - [7]
 

Besides, nothing will save you from some dingus' hotdropping cyno alt.

Syndryna
Posted - 2011.02.18 15:32:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Kesler Laduko

Because at this point, if I take on anything past a half ass fit destroyer, ship goes boom.


Rifter. T1 fit it. Go into lowsec. Let the fun ensue. If you lose it, so what?

tagen young
Caldari
The Night Witch
Posted - 2011.02.18 15:50:00 - [9]
 


Go to low sec.

Don't fall into the trap of waiting till you think your skills are upto it. There is always one more skill to train, so unless you want to wait a couple of years till you have flat five skills I recommend you go for it as soon as possible.

Kesler Laduko
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.18 16:13:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Syndryna

Rifter. T1 fit it. Go into lowsec. Let the fun ensue. If you lose it, so what?


Yep, that's what I currently have. I'm not concerned about it getting blown up (it happens), I'm concerned about being able to break anything larger than a cruiser's tank with my 200mm peashooters. I figure if I wait until I at least have T2 guns (about a week) then I might have a fighting chance.

betterdent
Project Nemesis
Posted - 2011.02.18 17:01:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Kesler Laduko
Originally by: Syndryna

Rifter. T1 fit it. Go into lowsec. Let the fun ensue. If you lose it, so what?


Yep, that's what I currently have. I'm not concerned about it getting blown up (it happens), I'm concerned about being able to break anything larger than a cruiser's tank with my 200mm peashooters. I figure if I wait until I at least have T2 guns (about a week) then I might have a fighting chance.


Carry alot of ammo, learn ship types, learn what is active and what is buffer tanked, how to gtfo if necessary, and learn how to get under guns without getting alpha'd. Oh yeah, and how to identify obvious bait, because most lowsec ***s suck at baiting.

Get your support skills up to 4, unless its really important, like armor tanking skills, electronics, etc, etc.

S'not hard, theres about 1500000000 guides to lowsec as a week old rifter pilot.

Kri Matar
Minmatar
Heretic Army
B A N E
Posted - 2011.02.18 17:12:00 - [12]
 

I accepted a 1 day old toon into Heretic Academy and from there this pilot has done nothing but blow *****es out of space with **** skills.

First seen: 2010.11.14
Success ratio: 55:1
Pods destroyed: 123

Kills Losses
607 Lifetime 11
55.50 bill ISK 0.47 bill
910.17 Points 95.27
594,159.00 Damage 239,548.00
44 This week 0

No excuses imo, low sec ain't rocket science. Ship splode ******s, take loot, ransom pod, yar har har, you're a pirate.

Khory Thunderstar
The Single Scam
Posted - 2011.02.18 17:35:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Khory Thunderstar on 18/02/2011 17:36:29
Edited by: Khory Thunderstar on 18/02/2011 17:36:01
Get a Rifter

Blow it up against something.

Rinse and repeat.


Right now im trying to find out if i can rifter gank a covetor/hulk in highsec before CONCORD gets me.


Also, NOS/NEUT can be a really good help against cruiser+ tank.

Syndryna
Posted - 2011.02.18 17:51:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Kesler Laduko

Yep, that's what I currently have. I'm not concerned about it getting blown up (it happens), I'm concerned about being able to break anything larger than a cruiser's tank with my 200mm peashooters. I figure if I wait until I at least have T2 guns (about a week) then I might have a fighting chance.


You would be surprised at how many low sec residents have 0 idea what they're doing. Getting podded in lowsec, barring a lag out, is nigh impossible. Go there, lose a bunch of ships, kill a few, until you figure it out (or find a corp to join that will help train you) and bring on the yarr.

Daphne Q
Our Own Pirate Society
Posted - 2011.02.18 19:48:00 - [15]
 

The advice in this thread is good advice.

Don't wait, go!

The longer you wait, the less likely you are actually to start. Right now, you can fit a rifter dirt cheap. Go to low-sec and figure out what you can beat and what you can't. Trial and error. Blow stuff up, lose some ships.

Don't wait for T2 guns, once you start fitting T2 guns you increase the value of your ship and the less likely you are to risk losing it.

Go now and risk your T1 fit rifter which is cheap to replace. Then, when you can fit T2's you'll have a much better idea of what is a viable target and what isn't. Sure, you'll still be risking a more expensive ship, but you'll have a better chance of making the right fight/flight choice too.

Kesler Laduko
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.18 21:17:00 - [16]
 

Alright, I'll head out to lowsec.

Blood Fart
Posted - 2011.02.19 01:12:00 - [17]
 

Watch out for pirate gatecamps with lots of smartbomb ammo to waste.

Storm Tr00per
Posted - 2011.02.19 01:23:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Blood Fart
Watch out for pirate gatecamps with lots of smartbomb ammo to waste.


brain fart , is it you ?

Kesler Laduko
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.19 01:53:00 - [19]
 

So I've been flying around lowsec for four hours, and the best I've seen is a roaming group and a little frigate that ran and docked as soon as he saw me. What the hell.

Jimmy Jazz
Warp Asylum Ltd
Posted - 2011.02.19 01:55:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Storm Tr00per
Originally by: Blood Fart
Watch out for pirate gatecamps with lots of smartbomb ammo to waste.


brain fart , is it you ?


It was an in joke, spend more time lurking tbh.

Daphne Q
Our Own Pirate Society
Posted - 2011.02.19 02:41:00 - [21]
 

Yeah, convo me in-game. I can fill you in on it. Wink

Centri Sixx
Posted - 2011.02.19 02:56:00 - [22]
 

Problem is that he is going to find either nothing, as he says, or he is going to beat his head against the whole faction frig/pirate frig/tech 2 frig wall you see in lowsec. People like me, who he can kill, are either nonexistent, or wont engage him.

He needs to either join a pvp training corp, pirate or not, or blow some frigs up in RvB just because he can find and kill them easier.

Daphne Q
Our Own Pirate Society
Posted - 2011.02.19 03:01:00 - [23]
 

Red vs. Blue is another good idea. Lots of opportunities there, for sure.

And yeah, if you're going into low sec, it's better to have a corp behind you or, at the very least, go with a friend. Then, learn how to aggress the targets you can kill against their will, and learn to slip away from those you can't.

Belfelmalak
Posted - 2011.02.19 07:57:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Kesler Laduko
Edited by: Kesler Laduko on 18/02/2011 15:01:35
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
The obvious answer is to stop training your skills, that way you won't have to wait for them anymore.


You sir are a wealth of knowledge and experience. I am humbled by your presence in my thread and that you took the time....to...wait..

Sorry, wrong script. Ah, here we go. Ahem..

Go **** yourself. Very Happy



+1 on the anti troll remark. Nice one

Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.19 09:15:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Brusanan on 19/02/2011 09:15:17
Come to Seyllin. The locals suck at Eve and we all fight in cheap ships. Very Happy

I'd recommend waiting until Hulkageddon ends to come kick our asses though.

MiningSlave01
Posted - 2011.02.19 10:54:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Centri Sixx
...People like me, who he can kill, are either nonexistent, or wont engage him.

He needs to either join a pvp training corp, pirate or not, or blow some frigs up in RvB just because he can find and kill them easier.


Fit a web and scram. They don't have to engage but theres no reason he can't

Centri Sixx
Posted - 2011.02.19 14:05:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: MiningSlave01

Fit a web and scram. They don't have to engage but theres no reason he can't


You're assuming we are there in the first place. D-scan every few seconds, bug out when you see someone on the overview. Never warp to 0 on any belt when you see people in local, and assume by ship type what they are here for. Know what rats warp scram, dont engage them with people in local. Once in awhile you'll get lucky and catch one of us, but on the whole, the way we survive is by waiting you out.

We have to do this mostly because people like the OP are a minority, and if we live solo there its usually blobs or ships that outclass us.

Unfortunately, the problem of open-world PvP is getting the outclassed to fight, and EVE offers no reason to do so as opposed to run.

fgft Athonille
Posted - 2011.02.19 14:07:00 - [28]
 

goto hagilur and go hunt some belt pvpers if you can get their large behinds out of the docking bays

Brusanan
Sardaukar Merc Guild
General Tso's Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.19 15:29:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Brusanan on 19/02/2011 15:30:39
Originally by: Centri Sixx
Originally by: MiningSlave01

Fit a web and scram. They don't have to engage but theres no reason he can't


You're assuming we are there in the first place. D-scan every few seconds, bug out when you see someone on the overview. Never warp to 0 on any belt when you see people in local, and assume by ship type what they are here for. Know what rats warp scram, dont engage them with people in local. Once in awhile you'll get lucky and catch one of us, but on the whole, the way we survive is by waiting you out.

We have to do this mostly because people like the OP are a minority, and if we live solo there its usually blobs or ships that outclass us.

Unfortunately, the problem of open-world PvP is getting the outclassed to fight, and EVE offers no reason to do so as opposed to run.


Stop giving him bad intel and terrible advice.Rolling Eyes

Most of the soft targets (which are plentiful) have never even heard of the DSCAN. The ones that have have no idea how to use it properly.

What do you mean by "ships that outclass you"? When it comes to subcap warfare you can kill anything with anything if you are good enough, or if your target is bad enough. And the only way to learn which fights you should avoid is by doing.

And the reason for jumping into fights which the outcome is not 100% certain to you is for the fight itself. That is why we PVP, for the good fights. If you enjoy the fight, it won't bother you to lose a ship every once in a while (or maybe all the time Razz). Of course you wouldn't understand that, as you are clearly petrified by the mere thought of PVP.

If you care more about holding on to your ship than getting fights/kills, of course you are going to hate PVP. If you are scared of flying into a fight where you will most likely lose your ship, start flying ships that you won't mind losing instead.

Kesler Laduko
Suddenly Ninjas
Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
Posted - 2011.02.19 15:38:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: MiningSlave01
Originally by: Centri Sixx
...People like me, who he can kill, are either nonexistent, or wont engage him.

He needs to either join a pvp training corp, pirate or not, or blow some frigs up in RvB just because he can find and kill them easier.


Fit a web and scram. They don't have to engage but theres no reason he can't


Can't engage when they warp out as soon as you land and go dock.

Or when it's a gate camp.

Or a blob.

Saw each of those last night. Was fun to hide in clock while the 40 man (seriously? what the hell) blob warped off the gate.


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