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Woodenfence
Amarr
Rogue Drone Systems
Posted - 2011.02.18 06:08:00 - [1]
 

According to the massive troll reguarding Test setting PL blue (whether or not this is mutual from PL's standpoint) why are Test shooting MM ??

*Kill board link removed. Zymurgist n

EI Digin
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.18 06:09:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: EI Digin on 18/02/2011 06:09:28
TeRedrum was right.

hantwo
Amarr
S.A.S
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.02.18 06:30:00 - [3]
 

Historically Bort and SAS have been friends for a long long long time, even as far back as last year. Recently that friendship has been under some strain, i'm just glad to say that sense has prevailed.

Some people just don't get a sense of history........

Mister Normal
Gallente
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.18 06:32:00 - [4]
 

We did it in your honoUr

ImmaSplodeYou
Amarr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.18 17:28:00 - [5]
 

It was an act of love

Murk Loar
Caldari
O.W.N. Corp
OWN Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.18 18:35:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: EI Digin

TeRedrum was right.


First time for everything I suppose.

Purrp Ledone
Caldari
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.18 19:06:00 - [7]
 

The truly shocking thing about that killmail is that TEST has a capfleet (and it's not busy ratting).

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.02.18 22:05:00 - [8]
 

PL and Test have always had a loving/Enemy relationship, Test always speak very highly of them and now I think test Realizes NC is in trouble now that BoB the unifying great "Evil" is basically gone they can have Delve and fountain. Who wants to be pets in PB/Dek when you can be co-masters in Delve and Fountain?

It was always gonna happen NC and Dek fighting at some point, I just never thought it would be so soon.

But with Convicted going to Test and Own going NC there has always been tension, also with Goons great history with PL [seeing as a ton of members where Goons MK1] It always was gonna brew into a struggle.

Now Raiden with all iits super`s tip the scales in the favor of the DRF IMO if they are smart.

Before DRF was outmatched but X13/Fin are now making DRF`s Blobs much more effective. Basically X13 needed Grunts becaue there guys were all SC pilots and DRF needed more Exp SC pilots so its a match made in hell for NC

Now that Gem will eventually be taken IMO if Test ever wanted to leave it would be now, while PL is gathering Alli`s and there is basically free space in Delve.

The main question is what will goons do, Without Test Dek cant take Delve on its own and needs NC but as stated since Raiden came along the once very close battles wont be so anymore, add Evoke in and NC really has troubles.

IMO NC killed itself by helping to kill Bob, they forced pilots to leave top other areas of game and almost none went NC`s way.

This could be similar to IT busting Evoke/Cry Havoc Sov for a short term "Morale gain" but losing its alliance for it.

NC didnt need to kill Bob or even help but wanted in on the fun and a "morale" win, now they sent the Supers who were no threat to them to literally there weak point and gave them a oarde of Bots to back them up as subcaps :)

This could be a great Troll for the 2011 ***gies but if its real NC might be in alot of trouble, as there biggest asset is numbers and now the south not hating eachother like they did, also if PL joins the SC, you will have PL+AAA+Stain+Atlas+Nulli Sec+Former Init+Evoke+NCDOT.+ DRF and now Test which isnt super elite but very active...The numbers thing all being equal with the exp elite guys from south would Whally Womp NC 1 v 1.

Either one of greatest trolls or the inevitable that happened very fast.

Mister Normal
Gallente
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.18 22:17:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Kail Storm
PL and Test have always had a loving/Enemy relationship, Test always speak very highly of them and now I think test Realizes NC is in trouble now that BoB the unifying great "Evil" is basically gone they can have Delve and fountain. Who wants to be pets in PB/Dek when you can be co-masters in Delve and Fountain?

It was always gonna happen NC and Dek fighting at some point, I just never thought it would be so soon.

But with Convicted going to Test and Own going NC there has always been tension, also with Goons great history with PL [seeing as a ton of members where Goons MK1] It always was gonna brew into a struggle.

Now Raiden with all iits super`s tip the scales in the favor of the DRF IMO if they are smart.

Before DRF was outmatched but X13/Fin are now making DRF`s Blobs much more effective. Basically X13 needed Grunts becaue there guys were all SC pilots and DRF needed more Exp SC pilots so its a match made in hell for NC

Now that Gem will eventually be taken IMO if Test ever wanted to leave it would be now, while PL is gathering Alli`s and there is basically free space in Delve.

The main question is what will goons do, Without Test Dek cant take Delve on its own and needs NC but as stated since Raiden came along the once very close battles wont be so anymore, add Evoke in and NC really has troubles.

IMO NC killed itself by helping to kill Bob, they forced pilots to leave top other areas of game and almost none went NC`s way.

This could be similar to IT busting Evoke/Cry Havoc Sov for a short term "Morale gain" but losing its alliance for it.

NC didnt need to kill Bob or even help but wanted in on the fun and a "morale" win, now they sent the Supers who were no threat to them to literally there weak point and gave them a oarde of Bots to back them up as subcaps :)

This could be a great Troll for the 2011 ***gies but if its real NC might be in alot of trouble, as there biggest asset is numbers and now the south not hating eachother like they did, also if PL joins the SC, you will have PL+AAA+Stain+Atlas+Nulli Sec+Former Init+Evoke+NCDOT.+ DRF and now Test which isnt super elite but very active...The numbers thing all being equal with the exp elite guys from south would Whally Womp NC 1 v 1.

Either one of greatest trolls or the inevitable that happened very fast.


You are right. I feel ashamed :(

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.02.18 22:47:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Kail Storm on 18/02/2011 22:48:44
Its the way of politics.

IMO this is why DEK was always wanting to make sure and be separate from NC because both NC and Dek knew eventually long way down the road when Bob was dead they might have to fight. So Dek didnt want to ever look like they backstabbed.

I think the biggest wildcard was IT Dying so fast lols.

I think both NC and Dek thought it would take months of grinding to the last station in Delve then maybe a Ratting vacation of 6 Months then WW3, but when they gave up so damned Easy it left both looking at eachother in confusion, like those B rated action movies where the 2 Unlikely Allie`s killed the badguy and now look at the 1 gun that stil lhas ammo in the middle of teh room, you both stare at it and wonder who will jump for it first :)

IMO it only makes sense for Test to move into Delve to become its own masters and control its own destiny, to do that It needs to make peace with PL, who from what I can tell already liked you guys, and AAA in whom you already showed support against INIT.

So why not take one of the best regions if not the best in the game thats wide open? Hell its like a landgrab down there lols.

Only problem is Groups like Widot who actually owe the NC something, where as by Blueing allying with PL/AAA you guys [Test] arent backstabbing your buddys in GSF it will make you enemies to RZR/MM. Im realy curious to see if this is true [It could be like I said best Troll ever, maybe better than Aid Flotilla] What will Widot do, it seems you guys and FA and Widot were joined at the hip :)

Mister Normal
Gallente
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.18 22:48:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Kail Storm
Its the way of politics.

IMO this is why DEK was always wanting to make sure and be separate from NC because both NC and Dek knew eventually long way down the road when Bob was dead they might have to fight. So Dek didnt want to ever look like they backstabbed.

I think the biggest wildcard was IT Dying so fast lols.

I think both NC and Dek thought it would take months of grinding to the last station in Delve, but when they gave up so damned Easy lol it left both looking at eachother in confusion.

IMO it only makes sense for Test to move into Delve to become its own masters and control its own destiny, to do that It needs to make peace with PL, who from what I can tell already liked you guys, and AAA in whom you already showed support against INIT.

So why not take one of the best regions if not the best in the game thats wide open? Hell its like a landgrab down there lols.

Only problem is Groups like Widot who actually owe the NC something, where as by Blueing allying with PL/AAA you guys [Test] arent backstabbing your buddys in GSF it will make you enemies to RZR/MM. Im realy curious to see if this is true [It could be like I said best Troll ever, maybe better than Aid Flotilla] What will Widot do, it seems you guys and FA and Widot were joined at the hip :)



You sure do like to write up lots of things, don't you?

Nobani
Minmatar
Merch Industrial
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.18 23:04:00 - [12]
 

First tell me why MM are SBUing fountain.

Katcaeks
Caldari
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.19 04:49:00 - [13]
 

SENSATIONALIST POST IS SENSATIONALIST.

WHy the hell do you even bother, everyone knows you're either an epic troll or someone with massive brain damage.

Judge Ment
Caldari
BOOM BOOM POW
Posted - 2011.02.19 05:22:00 - [14]
 

That a LIE , I seen IT rebuilding! Bob is coming back Razz


DONT SWEAT IT

ImmaSplodeYou
Amarr
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.19 15:55:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Kail Storm
PL and Test have always had a loving/Enemy relationship, Test always speak very highly of them and now I think test Realizes NC is in trouble now that BoB the unifying great "Evil" is basically gone they can have Delve and fountain. Who wants to be pets in PB/Dek when you can be co-masters in Delve and Fountain?

It was always gonna happen NC and Dek fighting at some point, I just never thought it would be so soon.

But with Convicted going to Test and Own going NC there has always been tension, also with Goons great history with PL [seeing as a ton of members where Goons MK1] It always was gonna brew into a struggle.

Now Raiden with all iits super`s tip the scales in the favor of the DRF IMO if they are smart.

Before DRF was outmatched but X13/Fin are now making DRF`s Blobs much more effective. Basically X13 needed Grunts becaue there guys were all SC pilots and DRF needed more Exp SC pilots so its a match made in hell for NC

Now that Gem will eventually be taken IMO if Test ever wanted to leave it would be now, while PL is gathering Alli`s and there is basically free space in Delve.

The main question is what will goons do, Without Test Dek cant take Delve on its own and needs NC but as stated since Raiden came along the once very close battles wont be so anymore, add Evoke in and NC really has troubles.

IMO NC killed itself by helping to kill Bob, they forced pilots to leave top other areas of game and almost none went NC`s way.

This could be similar to IT busting Evoke/Cry Havoc Sov for a short term "Morale gain" but losing its alliance for it.

NC didnt need to kill Bob or even help but wanted in on the fun and a "morale" win, now they sent the Supers who were no threat to them to literally there weak point and gave them a oarde of Bots to back them up as subcaps :)

This could be a great Troll for the 2011 ***gies but if its real NC might be in alot of trouble, as there biggest asset is numbers and now the south not hating eachother like they did, also if PL joins the SC, you will have PL+AAA+Stain+Atlas+Nulli Sec+Former Init+Evoke+NCDOT.+ DRF and now Test which isnt super elite but very active...The numbers thing all being equal with the exp elite guys from south would Whally Womp NC 1 v 1.

Either one of greatest trolls or the inevitable that happened very fast.


You couldn't be more clueless if you tried, could you?

Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.02.19 21:35:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou
Originally by: Kail Storm
PL and Test have always had a loving/Enemy relationship, Test always speak very highly of them and now I think test Realizes NC is in trouble now that BoB the unifying great "Evil" is basically gone they can have Delve and fountain. Who wants to be pets in PB/Dek when you can be co-masters in Delve and Fountain?

It was always gonna happen NC and Dek fighting at some point, I just never thought it would be so soon.

But with Convicted going to Test and Own going NC there has always been tension, also with Goons great history with PL [seeing as a ton of members where Goons MK1] It always was gonna brew into a struggle.

Now Raiden with all iits super`s tip the scales in the favor of the DRF IMO if they are smart.

Before DRF was outmatched but X13/Fin are now making DRF`s Blobs much more effective. Basically X13 needed Grunts becaue there guys were all SC pilots and DRF needed more Exp SC pilots so its a match made in hell for NC

Now that Gem will eventually be taken IMO if Test ever wanted to leave it would be now, while PL is gathering Alli`s and there is basically free space in Delve.

The main question is what will goons do, Without Test Dek cant take Delve on its own and needs NC but as stated since Raiden came along the once very close battles wont be so anymore, add Evoke in and NC really has troubles.

IMO NC killed itself by helping to kill Bob, they forced pilots to leave top other areas of game and almost none went NC`s way.

This could be similar to IT busting Evoke/Cry Havoc Sov for a short term "Morale gain" but losing its alliance for it.

NC didnt need to kill Bob or even help but wanted in on the fun and a "morale" win, now they sent the Supers who were no threat to them to literally there weak point and gave them a oarde of Bots to back them up as subcaps :)

This could be a great Troll for the 2011 ***gies but if its real NC might be in alot of trouble, as there biggest asset is numbers and now the south not hating eachother like they did, also if PL joins the SC, you will have PL+AAA+Stain+Atlas+Nulli Sec+Former Init+Evoke+NCDOT.+ DRF and now Test which isnt super elite but very active...The numbers thing all being equal with the exp elite guys from south would Whally Womp NC 1 v 1.

Either one of greatest trolls or the inevitable that happened very fast.


You couldn't be more clueless if you tried, could you?


Please explain how? Thats a sniping comment.
I could say same thing. You are insane and totally clueless, there I have WON ZE ARGUMENTZ

Bunny4you
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.02.19 21:42:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Bunny4you on 19/02/2011 21:57:50

Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou


You couldn't be more clueless if you tried, could you?


It is an opinion, did he claim it as fact no. What I took from it is Test and Dek as a whole eventually will Un-Blue/Possibly fight NC, thats not outlandish at all, Its the way of Eve, most alliances [besides a rare few of very tight broski`s] will eventually fight each other.

If I told you in 07 that IT/BOB would help fight AAA, or PL would blue IT/BOB or Hell Goons would be Blued with the NC, you would say I didnt know what I was talking about.

His second point is now that BOB is gone NC is most hated entity, tell me who is more hated than NC?

His next is NC uses superior numbers as its main advantage, this is 100% accurate and almost never argued against, please explain how its not.

Then he says if its not a Hoax/Troll, NC is in trouble and he would be right, because numbers are so important and GSF Old Guard has relations with RUS and since last DRF invasion was slightly being won by NC, Add these up and you do get NC being more and more at a disadvantage.

Fighting a war they were barely winning, but adding Raiden/Evoke and Some of Rebellion alliance does not bode well at all for NC, Please explain how that is wrong?

The hate with the SC subsiding he is also right, its turning more into a post WW2 era where peeps are chopping up old IT space, more worried about being Bro`s and fighting the rest of us. That is very bad for NC, a united SC is very very dangerous and mixed with DRF in which never really committed all of its str to Max2 invasion is very very dangerous.

Also he is right about Bob`s Supers being far more lethal in others hands who will deploy and augment there current strength. He never says its fact and always says if and might.

Only thing I disagree with him with is Convicted/Own making much of a difference in all of it. Although it did make Epeens flare in reality it means nothing it all comes down to Survival.


IMO you sound like you don`t know whats going on, then again 1 line sentences are hard to beat.

If he is clueless, Clue him in. Its easy to write a few line responses.

ShadowZoor
Amarr
GK inc.
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.02.19 23:26:00 - [18]
 

preach on brother bunny!

Bunny4you
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.02.20 00:00:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Bunny4you on 20/02/2011 00:03:16
Originally by: ShadowZoor
preach on brother bunny!


Shadow I left you some nice ships a few Zealots, a few Guardians and a Abby in JP4 for you when you take Delve.

Im not saying its a bribe or anything but when you become the overlords of Delve Co I expect a Vouch. :P

P.S
Man some of these NC guys even hear that there is the slightest possibility that there Empire might fall, or a hint that they need numbers to win and they go aggro. It wasnt like that a few months ago.

When PL attacks someone they also do Pysch Trauma to there carebears that even the best Medical insurance cant cure. :)

Mister Normal
Gallente
Metanoia.
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.20 01:28:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Bunny4you
Edited by: Bunny4you on 19/02/2011 21:57:50

Originally by: ImmaSplodeYou


You couldn't be more clueless if you tried, could you?


It is an opinion, did he claim it as fact no. What I took from it is Test and Dek as a whole eventually will Un-Blue/Possibly fight NC, thats not outlandish at all, Its the way of Eve, most alliances [besides a rare few of very tight broski`s] will eventually fight each other.

If I told you in 07 that IT/BOB would help fight AAA, or PL would blue IT/BOB or Hell Goons would be Blued with the NC, you would say I didnt know what I was talking about.

His second point is now that BOB is gone NC is most hated entity, tell me who is more hated than NC?

His next is NC uses superior numbers as its main advantage, this is 100% accurate and almost never argued against, please explain how its not.

Then he says if its not a Hoax/Troll, NC is in trouble and he would be right, because numbers are so important and GSF Old Guard has relations with RUS and since last DRF invasion was slightly being won by NC, Add these up and you do get NC being more and more at a disadvantage.

Fighting a war they were barely winning, but adding Raiden/Evoke and Some of Rebellion alliance does not bode well at all for NC, Please explain how that is wrong?

The hate with the SC subsiding he is also right, its turning more into a post WW2 era where peeps are chopping up old IT space, more worried about being Bro`s and fighting the rest of us. That is very bad for NC, a united SC is very very dangerous and mixed with DRF in which never really committed all of its str to Max2 invasion is very very dangerous.

Also he is right about Bob`s Supers being far more lethal in others hands who will deploy and augment there current strength. He never says its fact and always says if and might.

Only thing I disagree with him with is Convicted/Own making much of a difference in all of it. Although it did make Epeens flare in reality it means nothing it all comes down to Survival.


IMO you sound like you don`t know whats going on, then again 1 line sentences are hard to beat.

If he is clueless, Clue him in. Its easy to write a few line responses.


I could do, but that would ruin ammusing reading :)

aetherguy881
Gallente
Malformed Entity
Posted - 2011.02.20 07:42:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Nobani
First tell me why MM are SBUing fountain.


So they can have MOAR JB'S!!!

NAFnist
Caldari
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.02.20 09:13:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Bunny4you
If I told you in 07 that IT/BOB would help fight AAA


Clue 01

In 2007 BOB and AAA was fighting, as they've done for most part of their history.
Infact I believe it was in 2007 where BOB invaded HED.


Kail Storm
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.02.20 22:20:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: NAFnist
Originally by: Bunny4you
If I told you in 07 that IT/BOB would help fight AAA


Clue 01

In 2007 BOB and AAA was fighting, as they've done for most part of their history.
Infact I believe it was in 2007 where BOB invaded HED.




She was prob talking about when AAA-IT/BOB were great friends and when -A- helped when goons didnt pay bills, I think her point was things in Eve are never certain and sound crazy sometimes.

I.E
If I told you 1 year ago Init was gonna kick AAA out of there space [with help] Atlas was going to failcascade very fast, IT was gonna crumble and then AAA was gonna come back as the dominant power it would sound crazy. Well maybe not the last part but def Atlas/IT Failcascading as fast as they did and also AAA losing its space so fast the 1st time, 1 Year ago If I said Dead Terrorists where going to be a part of it I would laugh at myself :)


 

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