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Diana Araquez
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.25 18:37:00 - [931]
 

Originally by: egegergergsdgedgege
So basically we will now get a PI-Interface and yet another new fitting screen? That's what you spent a major portion of my money for the last few years?



What part of "it's been in development since January" is hard for you to grasp.

Infininte escher
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.26 21:41:00 - [932]
 

i still can't belive people can't put stuff together and see the whole picture

1. incarna walking in stations. (just a imerssion aspect with stuff added not likely)
2. dust (just a one off console game with weak link's to eve that's never gona get intergrated, given the short life span of consol games i don't think so)
3. planitry interaction (just a new source of isk, just a new sov idea, just a gimick so they can have a thoeretical link to eve for dust)

or maybe all the above are linked so i can eventually fly around space in my ship pop some guy's till i've had my fill then go to a station walk from my hanger to i don't know maybe a corp hanger get in a huge ship maybe something like a the war barge's with all my corp mates/ merc's and so on go to the home planet's of the people i just killed and shot his merc's in the face and blow up his properties.
i just hope the don't go full hardcore and add fake family's because you know there will be fake war crimes and there's no need to fill that demand

might see a reason why 0.0 sov is not getting properly fixed fast if my dreams of eve's future are right any fix now would be temorary so suck it up and wait for the hopefully good thing's to come.

sorry for any spoiler's ccp just call me a delusional mad man and deny deny deny i won't mind

Renix Xerar
Posted - 2011.03.27 17:26:00 - [933]
 

Originally by: Infininte escher
i still can't belive people can't put stuff together and see the whole picture

1. incarna walking in stations. (just a imerssion aspect with stuff added not likely)
2. dust (just a one off console game with weak link's to eve that's never gona get intergrated, given the short life span of consol games i don't think so)
3. planitry interaction (just a new source of isk, just a new sov idea, just a gimick so they can have a thoeretical link to eve for dust)

or maybe all the above are linked so i can eventually fly around space in my ship pop some guy's till i've had my fill then go to a station walk from my hanger to i don't know maybe a corp hanger get in a huge ship maybe something like a the war barge's with all my corp mates/ merc's and so on go to the home planet's of the people i just killed and shot his merc's in the face and blow up his properties.
i just hope the don't go full hardcore and add fake family's because you know there will be fake war crimes and there's no need to fill that demand

might see a reason why 0.0 sov is not getting properly fixed fast if my dreams of eve's future are right any fix now would be temorary so suck it up and wait for the hopefully good thing's to come.

sorry for any spoiler's ccp just call me a delusional mad man and deny deny deny i won't mind


First off - Learn to spell and use punctuation, kthx.

And then:

1. They've been developing it for a long long long time, you really think they're going to drop it and give up? Hilarious. It's practically making 'another' game because of the graphics and gameplay difference. It's outside of CCP's ballpark and they have to adapt to new mechanics, etc.

2. No game company has ever done this before - you don't know whether it will be 'short lived' or the longest lasting game in the business. And explain 'weak' ties. It makes planets up for grabs in pvp, much more competition and you bet your ass people will hire DUST teams for a faster sov game. It opens up a new possibility for a blitzkrieg in sov warfare.

3. Yes, they decided to integrate planets because they wanted a lame link for another project... How about they wanted to actually use the shiny planets they made? Thousands of planets and no use? Honestly? If it wasn't a new source of isk or a new sov idea what in God's name would it be? Features have purpose, Infinite, learn to accept it.

They're trying to expand upon a game to make it even better. I know you wish to live in your small little static world and do your little jobs. You can still do that - for anyone who wants to call these bad ideas, keep doing what you're doing.

Archaicc
Parabellum Diligentia
Posted - 2011.03.28 02:10:00 - [934]
 

Originally by: Renix Xerar
Originally by: Infininte escher
i still can't belive people can't put stuff together and see the whole picture

1. incarna walking in stations. (just a imerssion aspect with stuff added not likely)
2. dust (just a one off console game with weak link's to eve that's never gona get intergrated, given the short life span of consol games i don't think so)
3. planitry interaction (just a new source of isk, just a new sov idea, just a gimick so they can have a thoeretical link to eve for dust)

or maybe all the above are linked so i can eventually fly around space in my ship pop some guy's till i've had my fill then go to a station walk from my hanger to i don't know maybe a corp hanger get in a huge ship maybe something like a the war barge's with all my corp mates/ merc's and so on go to the home planet's of the people i just killed and shot his merc's in the face and blow up his properties.
i just hope the don't go full hardcore and add fake family's because you know there will be fake war crimes and there's no need to fill that demand

might see a reason why 0.0 sov is not getting properly fixed fast if my dreams of eve's future are right any fix now would be temorary so suck it up and wait for the hopefully good thing's to come.

sorry for any spoiler's ccp just call me a delusional mad man and deny deny deny i won't mind


First off - Learn to spell and use punctuation, kthx.

And then:

1. They've been developing it for a long long long time, you really think they're going to drop it and give up? Hilarious. It's practically making 'another' game because of the graphics and gameplay difference. It's outside of CCP's ballpark and they have to adapt to new mechanics, etc.

2. No game company has ever done this before - you don't know whether it will be 'short lived' or the longest lasting game in the business. And explain 'weak' ties. It makes planets up for grabs in pvp, much more competition and you bet your ass people will hire DUST teams for a faster sov game. It opens up a new possibility for a blitzkrieg in sov warfare.

3. Yes, they decided to integrate planets because they wanted a lame link for another project... How about they wanted to actually use the shiny planets they made? Thousands of planets and no use? Honestly? If it wasn't a new source of isk or a new sov idea what in God's name would it be? Features have purpose, Infinite, learn to accept it.

They're trying to expand upon a game to make it even better. I know you wish to live in your small little static world and do your little jobs. You can still do that - for anyone who wants to call these bad ideas, keep doing what you're doing.


well said. =D

Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
Posted - 2011.03.28 11:26:00 - [935]
 

Originally by: Archaicc
Originally by: Renix Xerar
Originally by: Infininte escher
i still can't belive people can't put stuff together and see the whole picture

1. incarna walking in stations. (just a imerssion aspect with stuff added not likely)
2. dust (just a one off console game with weak link's to eve that's never gona get intergrated, given the short life span of consol games i don't think so)
3. planitry interaction (just a new source of isk, just a new sov idea, just a gimick so they can have a thoeretical link to eve for dust)

or maybe all the above are linked so i can eventually fly around space in my ship pop some guy's till i've had my fill then go to a station walk from my hanger to i don't know maybe a corp hanger get in a huge ship maybe something like a the war barge's with all my corp mates/ merc's and so on go to the home planet's of the people i just killed and shot his merc's in the face and blow up his properties.
i just hope the don't go full hardcore and add fake family's because you know there will be fake war crimes and there's no need to fill that demand

might see a reason why 0.0 sov is not getting properly fixed fast if my dreams of eve's future are right any fix now would be temorary so suck it up and wait for the hopefully good thing's to come.

sorry for any spoiler's ccp just call me a delusional mad man and deny deny deny i won't mind


First off - Learn to spell and use punctuation, kthx.

And then:

1. They've been developing it for a long long long time, you really think they're going to drop it and give up? Hilarious. It's practically making 'another' game because of the graphics and gameplay difference. It's outside of CCP's ballpark and they have to adapt to new mechanics, etc.

2. No game company has ever done this before - you don't know whether it will be 'short lived' or the longest lasting game in the business. And explain 'weak' ties. It makes planets up for grabs in pvp, much more competition and you bet your ass people will hire DUST teams for a faster sov game. It opens up a new possibility for a blitzkrieg in sov warfare.

3. Yes, they decided to integrate planets because they wanted a lame link for another project... How about they wanted to actually use the shiny planets they made? Thousands of planets and no use? Honestly? If it wasn't a new source of isk or a new sov idea what in God's name would it be? Features have purpose, Infinite, learn to accept it.

They're trying to expand upon a game to make it even better. I know you wish to live in your small little static world and do your little jobs. You can still do that - for anyone who wants to call these bad ideas, keep doing what you're doing.


well said. =D


epic!

Zey Nadar
Gallente
Unknown Soldiers
Posted - 2011.03.28 12:23:00 - [936]
 

Edited by: Zey Nadar on 28/03/2011 12:25:42
Edited by: Zey Nadar on 28/03/2011 12:23:36
Originally by: Solicis
Looking great.

Ignore the whiners who don't want any "station delays," which will slow down their rate of isk grinding.


I can't for the life of me imagine an implementation of this that automatically pops you out of the pod EVERY time you dock. That would be stupidly massive hassle for people who rat/mission/mine etc.
Rather than that there should be a button in the station view( when youre still spinning your ship like currently) that lets you dismount and walk at the station..

This is still THE feature Im waiting on the most, actual avatars YEAH. I am standing, applauding and shouting bravos. Finally something that I will actually use.

I just hope we wont get stuck with only captain quarters for too long, lest people get disillusioned that incarna was a failure. Star trek online type bridge for yourself is nice, but its a toy not only for playing alone. Need interaction with other people, market, etc.

Laser Purification
Posted - 2011.03.29 07:31:00 - [937]
 

Edited by: Laser Purification on 29/03/2011 07:37:55
Incarna Reminds me of the "social patch" the Fallen Earth team put out when they were circling the drain. The idea is that it would add social spaces (bunker bars, really well done) where players would socialize. End result being that with no game-play they were largely abandoned soon after launch and a massive waste of developer time.

Players *already* have social networks. It's called Jabber, Teamspeak, Alliance forums, in game chat channels. And you can use those *while you play the game*.

Still, bring it on, It's only them reusing code from WoD so I'm assuming it's effectively cost-free from Eve's point of view. Though if I can't turn it off and use station services with the same efficiency as before then Rolling Eyes.

Fronkfurter McSheebleton
Posted - 2011.03.29 14:51:00 - [938]
 

Edited by: Fronkfurter McSheebleton on 29/03/2011 14:52:31
So, we'll have in-station on-foot view, which means the ships will look humongous. That'd be similar so scrolling the camera up close in the current system, which makes the textures look horribad.

So....do we get new/revised textures? Because that would be awesome.

Infininte escher
Gallente
Posted - 2011.03.29 15:01:00 - [939]
 

Originally by: Renix Xerar
Originally by: Infininte escher
i still can't belive people can't put stuff together and see the whole picture

1. incarna walking in stations. (just a imerssion aspect with stuff added not likely)
2. dust (just a one off console game with weak link's to eve that's never gona get intergrated, given the short life span of consol games i don't think so)
3. planitry interaction (just a new source of isk, just a new sov idea, just a gimick so they can have a thoeretical link to eve for dust)

or maybe all the above are linked so i can eventually fly around space in my ship pop some guy's till i've had my fill then go to a station walk from my hanger to i don't know maybe a corp hanger get in a huge ship maybe something like a the war barge's with all my corp mates/ merc's and so on go to the home planet's of the people i just killed and shot his merc's in the face and blow up his properties.
i just hope the don't go full hardcore and add fake family's because you know there will be fake war crimes and there's no need to fill that demand

might see a reason why 0.0 sov is not getting properly fixed fast if my dreams of eve's future are right any fix now would be temorary so suck it up and wait for the hopefully good thing's to come.

sorry for any spoiler's ccp just call me a delusional mad man and deny deny deny i won't mind


First off - Learn to spell and use punctuation, kthx.

And then:

1. They've been developing it for a long long long time, you really think they're going to drop it and give up? Hilarious. It's practically making 'another' game because of the graphics and gameplay difference. It's outside of CCP's ballpark and they have to adapt to new mechanics, etc.

2. No game company has ever done this before - you don't know whether it will be 'short lived' or the longest lasting game in the business. And explain 'weak' ties. It makes planets up for grabs in pvp, much more competition and you bet your ass people will hire DUST teams for a faster sov game. It opens up a new possibility for a blitzkrieg in sov warfare.

3. Yes, they decided to integrate planets because they wanted a lame link for another project... How about they wanted to actually use the shiny planets they made? Thousands of planets and no use? Honestly? If it wasn't a new source of isk or a new sov idea what in God's name would it be? Features have purpose, Infinite, learn to accept it.

They're trying to expand upon a game to make it even better. I know you wish to live in your small little static world and do your little jobs. You can still do that - for anyone who wants to call these bad ideas, keep doing what you're doing.


i'd re-read what i said, i like what's in happening in eve i was just trying to point out that maybe the indervidual release's of captain's quater's, dust and so on might be linked in more of a way than there telling atm

p.s you seem to be good at spelling and punctuation how about you retype this ground breaking thread while i scratch my arse and watch tv

Lev Aeris
United Amarr Templar Legion
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.04.01 02:40:00 - [940]
 

I am actually quite giddy over this after seeing the presentations during fan fest.

I was one of the bitter vets *****ing about doll maker. I was a ****, and I am sorry.

Nice work Chilliad, and all the other guys that I don't know of.

I still would like to see all the eve chronicles and back story lore to find a way into the CQ. Also, a little evolution on the 'Current Ship' widget to be a full blown EFT complete with saved fittings would be so very cool.

Also a pipe dream... Battle recorders and replays. (I know major work but if your going to aim, aim for something really cool ^^). I could see such a system doubling as a place to better illustrate the tutorials and certain tactics (also, mission briefings maybe?).


Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.03 06:16:00 - [941]
 

We were told that during Fanfest that 1-2 weeks after Fanfest we'd get Incarna's first iterative release, Captains Quarters. I've been searching, but I don't see any new news on this since Fanfest.

Anyone heard the latest?

GalacticRonin
Posted - 2011.04.03 20:55:00 - [942]
 

Originally by: Scitor Nantom
We were told that during Fanfest that 1-2 weeks after Fanfest we'd get Incarna's first iterative release, Captains Quarters. I've been searching, but I don't see any new news on this since Fanfest.

Anyone heard the latest?


I know I haven't. At first it was to be before Fanfest, then the weekend after it (at least I think that's what I read). So unless they're putting it up on Sisi later today, I'm wondering where it went off to.

Reachok
Amarr
Wrecking Shots
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.04.05 12:52:00 - [943]
 

Relegated to CCP Soon(TM) no doubt. I have some in-game commitments that are keeping me tied to Eve currently. Those will be finished in a few months and I was hoping to get out of my pod before turning in my pilots license and going planetside for a while. I understand the complexities of the Incarna/Captains Quarters, but Incarna has been the carrot for me for a couple years now. The mule is getting tired. Laughing

Lev Aeris
United Amarr Templar Legion
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.04.06 13:16:00 - [944]
 

This is what happens when you let the lead guy fist fight with a youngster.

Next year I hope they let Nozh and Chilliand fight, mainly because Chilliad looks about 90% Viking and nozh could use a good beating.

Dr Prometheus
Caldari
Gears of Construction
Posted - 2011.04.10 11:22:00 - [945]
 

So, where is it? Laughing

Angst IronShard
Minmatar
Sense of Serendipity
Echoes of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.04.10 17:02:00 - [946]
 

Originally by: Reachok
Relegated to CCP Soon(TM) no doubt. I have some in-game commitments that are keeping me tied to Eve currently. Those will be finished in a few months and I was hoping to get out of my pod before turning in my pilots license and going planetside for a while. I understand the complexities of the Incarna/Captains Quarters, but Incarna has been the carrot for me for a couple years now. The mule is getting tired. Laughing


+1

GalacticRonin
Posted - 2011.04.10 17:11:00 - [947]
 

Where is Incarna, CCP? I really hate to add to the Forum Whine Index, as it's something I don't make a habit of doing, but I think alot of us have been looking forward to this one and are eager to try it out on Sisi. While I understand there's a great deal of technical work that has to go into something as radically different as Incarna, was the theme for this fanfest kickoff not "Delivery"? I think many of us just want to see something, get a taste for what it's going to be and experience it firsthand.

Please, just get it out there.

Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.10 21:24:00 - [948]
 

This is the thing I log on to the forums everyday to see. :)

Let's do this thing.

Vheras
Posted - 2011.04.11 02:44:00 - [949]
 

Originally by: GalacticRonin
Where is Incarna, CCP? I really hate to add to the Forum Whine Index, as it's something I don't make a habit of doing, but I think alot of us have been looking forward to this one and are eager to try it out on Sisi. While I understand there's a great deal of technical work that has to go into something as radically different as Incarna, was the theme for this fanfest kickoff not "Delivery"? I think many of us just want to see something, get a taste for what it's going to be and experience it firsthand.

Please, just get it out there.


Yeah what happened to Captain's Quarters being on SiSi??

Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.11 04:14:00 - [950]
 

Originally by: Vheras
Originally by: GalacticRonin
Where is Incarna, CCP? I really hate to add to the Forum Whine Index, as it's something I don't make a habit of doing, but I think alot of us have been looking forward to this one and are eager to try it out on Sisi. While I understand there's a great deal of technical work that has to go into something as radically different as Incarna, was the theme for this fanfest kickoff not "Delivery"? I think many of us just want to see something, get a taste for what it's going to be and experience it firsthand.

Please, just get it out there.


Yeah what happened to Captain's Quarters being on SiSi??


The last thing I heard from anyone's mouth was 1-2 weeks after Fanfest. This was on the Fanfest livestream archives they have on Youtube.

Information about CQ and Incarna status... like a slowly dripping faucet.. we just want it to flow!

:P

GalacticRonin
Posted - 2011.04.11 05:24:00 - [951]
 

Originally by: Scitor Nantom
Information about CQ and Incarna status... like a slowly dripping faucet.. we just want it to flow!



^ Agree.

Jokerface666
Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.11 07:56:00 - [952]
 

Nothing happend, they were lying to us again....

Castor Phaethon
Posted - 2011.04.11 10:04:00 - [953]
 

I think they put everyone on the new forums., so we have to wait until they fixed it...

Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.12 09:23:00 - [954]
 

The term "Captain's Quarters" is now slowly turning into a concept in my mind of a Captain with the name "Quarters".

Captain Quarters! A New Eden super hero! His super power? Providing couches and interface to every pod pilot in New Eden.
Soooo... Super provisional powers of couches and interfaces... ACTIVATE!

Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.12 09:34:00 - [955]
 

Originally by: Scitor Nantom
The term "Captain's Quarters" is now slowly turning into a concept in my mind of a Captain with the name "Quarters".

Captain Quarters! A New Eden super hero! His super power? Providing couches and interface to every pod pilot in New Eden.
Soooo... Super provisional powers of couches and interfaces... ACTIVATE!


And the meme of "Captain's Quarters" causes one to search... for in searching it temporarily satisfies the minds desire to be preoccupied with thoughts of lounging and looking at interfaces... Google, let's seek search terms and explore memes and themes of a Captain and his Quarters...

Captain's Quarters (Resort)

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.






Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.13 11:11:00 - [956]
 


Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.15 06:39:00 - [957]
 

I believe this has become an official "whine" for me. :)

So, anyone else anticipating Incarna... or are you all running off to other pursuits to get your mind off of the fact Captain's Quarters is not out yet?

GalacticRonin
Posted - 2011.04.15 07:18:00 - [958]
 

I'm checking Sisi every so often, and am becoming less and less optimistic. Also makes me wonder if they'll have it out on time come summer, as they seem to have so much work to do just to get something that will run on a test server.

Ming Sying
Amarr
Posted - 2011.04.15 12:58:00 - [959]
 

Edited by: Ming Sying on 15/04/2011 12:58:21
I don't envision an entirely new game at all from this, but more as an additional social experience for people playing the game.

Some features I will be expecting are:

  • Strategy Room, alliance/corp meeting place where officers can upload powerpoint presentations, open the starmap and show pre-flight routes, videos, and audio files or just use a mic.

  • Station social area, like a bar or game lounge with multiplayer games for people to play since the rest of EvE is such a terrible game.

  • Dozens of other ways to implement a feature without dedicating the full resources required of an entirely new game.



I will say that CCP is not the blackhole company its players make it out to be. They could have charged players $50 for this expansion. If that was the case I could understand all the harsh criticism.

Scitor Nantom
Minmatar
AfterMath.
Broken Toys
Posted - 2011.04.16 14:36:00 - [960]
 

Originally by: Ming Sying
Edited by: Ming Sying on 15/04/2011 12:58:21
I don't envision an entirely new game at all from this, but more as an additional social experience for people playing the game.

Some features I will be expecting are:

  • Strategy Room, alliance/corp meeting place where officers can upload powerpoint presentations, open the starmap and show pre-flight routes, videos, and audio files or just use a mic.

  • Station social area, like a bar or game lounge with multiplayer games for people to play since the rest of EvE is such a terrible game.

  • Dozens of other ways to implement a feature without dedicating the full resources required of an entirely new game.



I will say that CCP is not the blackhole company its players make it out to be. They could have charged players $50 for this expansion. If that was the case I could understand all the harsh criticism.


Right, from what I saw of those older videos, it gives the game more flavor, and gives roleplayers a bit more fun and environment. There's also that strategy game as you mentioned. What CCP has been doing, that I think is smart, is iterative releases.

I don't think Eve is a blackhole company selling vaporware or such but what they've shown of Incarna and when they said CQ was coming out have had me expecting CQ out by now.

The new character creator and Incarna are what piqued my interest again. I am a PVPer as well as an RPGer and I enjoy the immersion and sandbox roleplay value Eve has.

In my career, I have found that customers waiting on features or patches to issues appreciate updates when things don't go as expected.

For example, I'd rather hear that CQ is not even coming out two months from now and that the full rollout of Incarna is not coming out until the end of the year than nothing at all. :)


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