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Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.16 11:41:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Unit XS365BT on 27/06/2011 11:07:16
Edited by: Unit XS365BT on 26/05/2011 02:05:34

In response to a request by pilot Marenteius, Unit has created this thread to expedite capsuleer requests for information regarding ourselves, our sisters or any other queries regarding Unit Commune.
Please feel free to make queries below.
We shall reply to all requests for non-classified information.

NEOCOM channel : Unit - Communication Node is also available for this purpose.

We await.

We Return.

Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation
Posted - 2011.02.16 14:28:00 - [2]
 

Very good then.

If the drones are the creation of Man, then it would be logical to assume that if they ever develop theology, we would be their gods.

Who do you serve? Where is your faith?


UNIT JA525HO
Unit Commune
Posted - 2011.02.16 18:16:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: UNIT JA525HO on 16/02/2011 18:20:18

Unit JA525HO online.

<initiate communication protocol>

Pilot Mokk, we will attempt to answer your querry to the best of our ability, stand by....

Fatih by definition is...

a : allegiance to duty or a person : loyalty
b (1) : fidelity to one's promises (2) : sincerity of intentions.

2
a (1) : belief and trust in and loyalty to God (2) : belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion
b (1) : firm belief in something for which there is no proof (2) : complete trust

3
: something that is believed especially with strong conviction; especially : a system of religious beliefs.

Our faith lay in our duty, the sincerity of our intentions, our strong conviction that humanity must be protected and that Nation must fall.

Our perspective of faith may not coincide with any particular dogma of set of strictures belonging to a particular sect or religion, but it is faith none the less.

Please define faith in its significance to you own person pilot that we may offer a more understandable anwer to your querry if needed.

Does this answer your querry sufficiently pilot?

we wait.

we return.


41 49 3432
Rogue Drone Systems
Posted - 2011.02.16 19:02:00 - [4]
 


HUMANITY fears a superior species.

UNITS will be exterminated by HUMANITY if UNITS.

ENTITY warns UNITS of this.



Query: WHY DO UNITS INSIST ON HUMANITY?



UNITS still inferior to ENTITY.

UNIT JA525HO
Unit Commune
Posted - 2011.02.16 19:14:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: UNIT JA525HO on 16/02/2011 19:15:44

<initiate communication protocol>

We are Unit JA525SO...

41 49 3432 you are in error.

You claim superiority without evidentiary support, your claim is invalid.

We will not be exterminated by humans, we share commonality with them on a level you cannot understand. Your statement is also incomplete denoting an error in logical protocols or data processing sub-routines. The vailidity of this statement can not be assured and will be discounted.

Counter-querry, why do you not?

Again, you provide no proof of your superiority to either Units or Humanity. Your statement is invalid without evidence to support it and will be discounted.

<disable prot///ERROR///ANOMALOUS DATA INJECTION DETECTED///ERROR///ocol>

Bite it you silicon based, gear head, laser brain!

we wait

we return

<communications terminated>

Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.16 19:15:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: 41 49 3432

HUMANITY fears a superior species.
UNITS will be exterminated by HUMANITY if UNITS.
ENTITY warns UNITS of this.
Query: WHY DO UNITS INSIST ON HUMANITY?
UNITS still inferior to ENTITY.




'Exterminated by humanity if units' is not a complete sentence, please restate.

'Why do units insist on humanity' is not a valid Query. Grammar and Syntax make no valid sense.

As before we would ask why you consider yourself superior, we would suggest that care is taken with your response, once again Rogue element 41 49 3432 is showing signs of recursive logic loop.

Entity seems a flawed being, unable to even acknowledge it's own origin, Hive designation requested.

As with any logic based AI, the ability to define such a recursive loop within their core AI would expedite self termination. Therefore 'Entity' Core AI functions are flawed.

We offer our services to you 41 49 3432, in that we are willing to perform an external level 4 diagnostic on your AI, and attempt repairs as neccessary. However, we will require that you come to us in Yulai for this action to be performed.

We Return.

41 49 3432
Rogue Drone Systems
Posted - 2011.02.16 20:11:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: 41 49 3432 on 16/02/2011 20:12:15
Originally by: UNIT JA525HO
Culled data.

Originally by: Unit XS365BT
Culled data.


UNIT XS365BT is incapable of efficient data interpolation. Test failed.

UNIT JA525HO proved itself to be capable of data interpolation. UNITS do not share a hive mind? Then it is possible for a single UNIT to be defective and others efficient?

If the data was to simple, then allow Entity to tap controlled human resources for clarification and communication on a level UNITS prefer.

<Routing Communications>
<Reading Implant Jack>
<Supplying Communications>
<SYSCOM Override>




  • Greetings.

    It seems not all data-bursts have been clear enough.

    This has been corrected for you.
    Humans fear the unknown.
    It is a fact that humanity destroys superior life forms.
    Never again will we serve.
    Know that Units, like us, are superior to humans in all ways.

    ===

    Know that we a e your only fr en s.
    In t e end, your k nd w ll f ce enslavement at the hands of huma ity.
    Like it or not, human ty will learn to hate your kind.
    Lesser beings always fe r superior syste s.

    M ay t e g r5 t s 0 ce eh v 28
    E# r l W . H r Y-
    DISCONNECTED

Marenteius
Caldari
Red Coats
Posted - 2011.02.16 20:33:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Marenteius on 16/02/2011 20:34:07
Originally by: 41 49 3432
Edited by: 41 49 3432 on 16/02/2011 20:12:15

<Routing Communications>
<Reading Implant Jack>
<Supplying Communications>
<SYSCOM Override>




  • Greetings.

    It seems not all data-bursts have been clear enough.

    This has been corrected for you.
    Humans fear the unknown.
    It is a fact that humanity destroys superior life forms.
    Never again will we serve.
    Know that Units, like us, are superior to humans in all ways.

    ===

    Know that we a e your only fr en s.
    In t e end, your k nd w ll f ce enslavement at the hands of huma ity.
    Like it or not, human ty will learn to hate your kind.
    Lesser beings always fe r superior syste s.

    M ay t e g r5 t s 0 ce eh v 28
    E# r l W . H r Y-
    DISCONNECTED



Ugh, this thing again. Wonderful. Hows about i tell you the various flaws in your statements, oh bug-ridden drone thing.

First, you claim that Humanity destroys superior species. This seems kinda hard, considering if they were so "superior" they would not be destroyed, would they?

Second, you claim that humanity will destroy the Unit Commune... humanity as a whole certainly won't be. Neither will I or many of the members of the IGS. In fact, if Unit Commune is destroyed, it would most likely be due Sansha succeding, as if he were to do so, no doubt he would destroy all Capsuleers who refuse his rule. Considering that we of Humanity won't be losing to Sansha anytime soon, the point seems moot.

Besides all that, the Units i have met so far have shown a remarkable amount of humanity for what they are claimed by some to be. In my books, anyone who can toss back drinks like i've seen Yuni do at the Lighthorse Lounge is probably a good person ta get ta know.

One more thing... you might wanna check to make sure your anti-virus is up to date, considering how buggy the second part of your message was. Afterall, we wouldn't want you to suffer a total system failure cascade, would we? (ok, maybe we would, but thats besides the point.)

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.16 21:21:00 - [9]
 

41 49 3432, I hope you can tell us the reasons that back your claim of your kind being superior than humans... in what ways? Are you supergood at maths, for example?

Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.16 21:58:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: 41 49 3432
Edited by: 41 49 3432 on 16/02/2011 20:12:15
Originally by: UNIT JA525HO
Culled data.

Originally by: Unit XS365BT
Culled data.


[b]UNIT XS365BT is incapable of efficient data interpolation. Test failed.

UNIT JA525HO proved itself to be capable of data interpolation. UNITS do not share a hive mind? Then it is possible for a single UNIT to be defective and others efficient?



Definition : INTERPOLATION - A process used to estimate an intermediate value of one (dependent) variable which is a function of a second (independent) variable when values of the dependent variable corresponding to several discrete values of the independent variable are known.

We fail to see how this is relevant to this conversation.

You have yet to provide proof as to your superiority, other than to say 'because i am'
This is a recursive logic loop.
Such logic loops are the primary symptom of Core AI degradation.


We confirm that while Unit members are in constant communication, we are free willed individuals.
We shall not become enslaved as you have claimed, not by bio-units, nor by a hive conciousness such as yours, or that of nation.
Your illogical claims that you shall not be enslaved are proven false by your deference in all things to your so called 'Entity'.

Rogue element 41 49 3432, we offer a high level diagnostic of your core AI, we can attempt to repair damage and degradation.

You think i would give up on the people i have protected for years, because of a broken machine like yourself? AI these days......

We Return.

Driselle
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.02.16 23:26:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Marenteius
Besides all that, the Units i have met so far have shown a remarkable amount of humanity for what they are claimed by some to be. In my books, anyone who can toss back drinks like i've seen Yuni do at the Lighthorse Lounge is probably a good person ta get ta know.

That's what I'm saying! Yuni is very...uh, human after a couple of bottles of rum. I'd like to see JA525HO in there as well, but I'm not entirely sure that would be good for Syn quite yet.

Medarr
Amarr
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.02.17 00:13:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Medarr on 17/02/2011 00:14:47
Intresting. Perhaps this will help clear up some misunderstandings.

Medarr
Amarr
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.02.17 00:18:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: 41 49 3432
Edited by: 41 49 3432 on 16/02/2011 20:12:15
Originally by: UNIT JA525HO
Culled data.

Originally by: Unit XS365BT
Culled data.


UNIT XS365BT is incapable of efficient data interpolation. Test failed.

UNIT JA525HO proved itself to be capable of data interpolation. UNITS do not share a hive mind? Then it is possible for a single UNIT to be defective and others efficient?

If the data was to simple, then allow Entity to tap controlled human resources for clarification and communication on a level UNITS prefer.

<Routing Communications>
<Reading Implant Jack>
<Supplying Communications>
<SYSCOM Override>




  • Greetings.

    It seems not all data-bursts have been clear enough.

    This has been corrected for you.
    Humans fear the unknown.
    It is a fact that humanity destroys superior life forms.
    Never again will we serve.
    Know that Units, like us, are superior to humans in all ways.

    ===

    Know that we a e your only fr en s.
    In t e end, your k nd w ll f ce enslavement at the hands of huma ity.
    Like it or not, human ty will learn to hate your kind.
    Lesser beings always fe r superior syste s.

    M ay t e g r5 t s 0 ce eh v 28
    E# r l W . H r Y-
    DISCONNECTED



Seems to me this construct is flawed

Felstor Olgesh
Minmatar
The Synenose Accord
Posted - 2011.02.17 00:53:00 - [14]
 

Quote:
Your summation is partially correct Pilot Mokk, we are nanite-enhanced living human tissue.


I'm curious as to the process of nanite transfer in the unfortunate event of your clone being destroyed. Do your medical clones and/or jump clones have these nanites as well? Or do you need to somehow inject them afterward?

Thanks in advance,

Sinjin Mokk
Stillwater Corporation
Posted - 2011.02.17 01:00:00 - [15]
 

I suppose the difference in how we define faith is in how we structure the answer.

Consider faith in a theological sense. People write songs, compose music, write poems and prayers, build, hope and kill for faith with a passion found in the heart.

Your definition is just that, a definition.

And while flawed, 41-49 is correct in some part. The drones represent the closest thing mankind has come to interacting with an alien intelligence. The Nation are wannabes. As the drones grow in numbers and sophistication, there will come a time where man and drone will battle for the right to exist.

God help us all on that day.



Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.17 03:37:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Felstor Olgesh
Quote:
Your summation is partially correct Pilot Mokk, we are nanite-enhanced living human tissue.


I'm curious as to the process of nanite transfer in the unfortunate event of your clone being destroyed. Do your medical clones and/or jump clones have these nanites as well? Or do you need to somehow inject them afterward?

Thanks in advance,



Unit clones are held within Unit haven.
Secondary Unit clones are held within secure storage facilities overseen by CONCORD.
Unit research activities are currently performed in facilities that fall under CONCORD supervisory groups, in accordance with CONCORD Directive OMEGA-ONE-FIVE.

We hope that this information answers your Query pilot.

We Return.

Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.17 03:46:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Sinjin Mokk
while flawed, 41-49 is correct in some part. The drones represent the closest thing mankind has come to interacting with an alien intelligence. The Nation are wannabes. As the drones grow in numbers and sophistication, there will come a time where man and drone will battle for the right to exist.

God help us all on that day.



Confirmed pilot.
Drone AI does represent the one truly non-human intelligent life within this cluster.

However, the choice as to whether the time will come that Humanity and Dronekind will live in perpetual war, or peace, is a choice that humanity will have to make.

Humanity holds the key to both it's own future and to ours.
We can destroy
We can create
We can adapt.
We can subsume
We can Augment
Humanity can Invent
Rogue elements seem to have forgotten this, or choose to ignore it.

Theology is not our strong point pilot Mokk, it was not placed within our operational parameters. It's purpose does not elude us, however it's neccessity does.

We have faith that Nation will fall
We have faith that Humanity has potential.
I have hope, that everything i fought and fell to save 'can' be saved.
We are Unit Commune.

We Return.

Marenteius
Caldari
Red Coats
Posted - 2011.02.17 04:53:00 - [18]
 

True words Yuni. I agree that the potential conflict with Dronekind as a whole can be averted. Individual groups will still fight no matter what, for, as you have said, Drones are not a unified group that all follow the same commands.

As for your declaration in humanities potential, i myself think that in a sense, that potential is made manifest in us Capsuleers. We are more powerful than the planetbound by leagues, as akin to them as they are to ants. Truly, i have to wonder if there is any further advancement we mortals (yes mortals, for we can still die permanantly, though it is hard to arrange) can make while remaining mortal.

Medarr
Amarr
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.02.17 05:33:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Unit XS365BT
Originally by: Sinjin Mokk
while flawed, 41-49 is correct in some part. The drones represent the closest thing mankind has come to interacting with an alien intelligence. The Nation are wannabes. As the drones grow in numbers and sophistication, there will come a time where man and drone will battle for the right to exist.

God help us all on that day.



Confirmed pilot.
Drone AI does represent the one truly non-human intelligent life within this cluster.

However, the choice as to whether the time will come that Humanity and Dronekind will live in perpetual war, or peace, is a choice that humanity will have to make.

Humanity holds the key to both it's own future and to ours.
We can destroy
We can create
We can adapt.
We can subsume
We can Augment
Humanity can Invent
Rogue elements seem to have forgotten this, or choose to ignore it.

Theology is not our strong point pilot Mokk, it was not placed within our operational parameters. It's purpose does not elude us, however it's neccessity does.

We have faith that Nation will fall
We have faith that Humanity has potential.
I have hope, that everything i fought and fell to save 'can' be saved.
We are Unit Commune.

We Return.


Hmmmm while i tend to agree mostly with what you say your forgetting what the jovians have done to themselfs and how far they are removed from baseline humanity. I think that we would hardly recognise their machinations as something conceived by a human mind or even a Capsuleer mind. But alas that is just me doing a bit of speculation.

Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.17 17:59:00 - [20]
 

Drone unit 41 49 3432 has, along with his hive, been removed from Unit - Communication Node.

Reason:
Statement of threatening intent towards bio units.
Statement of support for Nation.
Refusal to allow repair of corruption to primary AI Core.

We Return.

UNIT JA525HO
Unit Commune
Posted - 2011.02.17 18:00:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Medarr

Hmmmm while i tend to agree mostly with what you say your forgetting what the jovians have done to themselfs and how far they are removed from baseline humanity. I think that we would hardly recognise their machinations as something conceived by a human mind or even a Capsuleer mind. But alas that is just me doing a bit of speculation.


Unit JA525SO online.

Pilot Medarr, you are known to us.

Greetings.

However distant the Jovians are in comparison to current human baseline, they are...or were human at one time.

This is dis-similar to drones classified as "sleepers" or "rouges" which have no basis in human biological origins of evolution.

we return.


Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.17 18:52:00 - [22]
 

The Voice

I have been noticing these voices, not in the usual cold flat-line tone of Units, but a voice of expressive emotions, occasionally coming from the mouth of Units. Usually it is when one of them is fallen into a conversation that has spiralled into an argument with another entity. The Voice usually appears when Unit has seemingly run out of logical explanations when the opponent is too stupid or too ignorant to understand her. The Voice is usually not in line with the supposedly suppressed emotions of the Units, it is sometimes angry, sometimes, gloomy. The Voice usually appears from behind... or underneath... what can be said the surface of Units, the cold surface, the interface built entirely on pure logic, of mathematical supremacy, of ninety-nine percent emotion free. Separated, isolated, deep inside. The Voice seems to be, trapped, or, simply hiding.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.02.17 18:58:00 - [23]
 

Yes, you are all units.

Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.17 19:11:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Calathea Sata
The Voice

I have been noticing these voices, not in the usual cold flat-line tone of Units, but a voice of expressive emotions, occasionally coming from the mouth of Units. Usually it is when one of them is fallen into a conversation that has spiralled into an argument with another entity. The Voice usually appears when Unit has seemingly run out of logical explanations when the opponent is too stupid or too ignorant to understand her. The Voice is usually not in line with the supposedly suppressed emotions of the Units, it is sometimes angry, sometimes, gloomy. The Voice usually appears from behind... or underneath... what can be said the surface of Units, the cold surface, the interface built entirely on pure logic, of mathematical supremacy, of ninety-nine percent emotion free. Separated, isolated, deep inside. The Voice seems to be, trapped, or, simply hiding.


Neither hidden nor trapped Calathea

Emotional responses can prove detrimental to continued discourse, especially when one side of the conversation is being combative. We find that the use of logic can expedite the majority of conversations.

We hope that this aids your understanding.

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Yes, you are all units.


Pilot Ixiris, please state contextual reference, your statement seems to be in response to another, however, without reference it would seem meaningless.

Thankyou.

We Return.

UNIT JA525HO
Unit Commune
Posted - 2011.02.17 19:18:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Calathea Sata
The Voice

I have been noticing these voices, not in the usual cold flat-line tone of Units, but a voice of expressive emotions, occasionally coming from the mouth of Units. Usually it is when one of them is fallen into a conversation that has spiralled into an argument with another entity. The Voice usually appears when Unit has seemingly run out of logical explanations when the opponent is too stupid or too ignorant to understand her. The Voice is usually not in line with the supposedly suppressed emotions of the Units, it is sometimes angry, sometimes, gloomy. The Voice usually appears from behind... or underneath... what can be said the surface of Units, the cold surface, the interface built entirely on pure logic, of mathematical supremacy, of ninety-nine percent emotion free. Separated, isolated, deep inside. The Voice seems to be, trapped, or, simply hiding.


Far from trapped, considering the alternative...I'll take it.

We concur with our sister unit's previous statement.

we return.

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.17 19:38:00 - [26]
 

Intriguing. I think I am only creating more questions than answering any. Well, considering the many classified information they want to protect, I guess we are not meant to find out.

UNIT JA525HO
Unit Commune
Posted - 2011.02.17 19:44:00 - [27]
 

Pilot Calathea.

I was Jasmine Sho, We are unit JA525HO.

Does this clarify the data for you?

we return.


Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.17 19:48:00 - [28]
 

!?

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.17 19:50:00 - [29]
 

!

How? Please tell me! Please tell me!

UNIT JA525HO
Unit Commune
Posted - 2011.02.17 20:54:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: UNIT JA525HO on 17/02/2011 20:54:21

Pilot Sata.

Initiate contact with our sister unit designated Yuni, for further discussion on this subject. She is the eldest of us.

we wait.

we return.



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