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Roc Wieler
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.15 22:26:00 - [1]
 


Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.02.16 00:35:00 - [2]
 

I have no doubt that your amazing contributions to the EVE community and your experience in working with CCP as one of Capsuleer's developers will enable you to do a fine job of representing the community and being a productive member of CSM6, so best wishes for success in your campaign!

And don't say I didn't warn ya! Wink


Roc Wieler
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.16 10:33:00 - [3]
 

Thanks babe, and you've given me sufficient and multiple warnings. Don't worry, I'll be bugging ya all year long. Razz

noise
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.02.16 11:30:00 - [4]
 

Roc The Vote!

tgl3
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.02.16 12:08:00 - [5]
 

Roc The Vote!

Korvin
Gallente
Shadow Kingdom
Best Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.16 12:48:00 - [6]
 


Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.02.16 13:14:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Korvin
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Roc+Wieler#kills
BC control failed, campaign with your main.



LOL Your sense of humor is excellent as always, Korvin.

Roc Wieler
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.16 15:11:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Korvin
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/combat_record.php?type=player&name=Roc+Wieler#kills
BC control failed, campaign with your main.



LOL

Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.18 18:13:00 - [9]
 

Roc the vote! Or failing that, the casbah.

Davvol
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.23 14:32:00 - [10]
 

Roc the vote...

Nightshade Mary
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.23 15:10:00 - [11]
 

Roc the vote!

StarCasher
Minmatar
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.24 00:34:00 - [12]
 

VOTE ROC!

Mynxee
Veto.
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.02.24 20:39:00 - [13]
 

We both know that communications from CCP can sometimes be unclear or less than timely. What do you foresee as CSM6's key challenges in that regard, and what ideas have occurred to you for tackling those challenges?

Darina Smirayne
Sarz'na Khumatari
Posted - 2011.02.25 12:49:00 - [14]
 

Roc the Vote

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.25 20:27:00 - [15]
 

♫ Roc the vote, bay-bay YARRRR!!

Two Shots
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.25 20:30:00 - [16]
 

Roc Wieler:

Explicitly and literally, could you please walk me through the means by which—in other words, by what exact mechanic(s) or specific process(es)—you intend to get your pet topics pushed through to CCP? Bear in mind that it has been expressly stated by CCP, ever since the advent of the CSM, that the CSM does not exist to serve as a group of amateur game developers. I am genuinely curious how you intend to bypass the stated position of CCP—that doing things is not what the CSM is for—so that you can deliver on your promise to do things or get things done. Your comments?

Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.25 21:00:00 - [17]
 

As you can see here he's not making specific promises.
Quote:
I could tell you about my ideas for EVE; how I would make factional warfare meaningful, how I would make low sec the single best area of space to live, how they should have tea as a commodity instead of just synthetic coffee... but I won’t. I won’t overpromise on any of these things.

[snip]

I have no fears of saying no. I have no qualms with showing flaws in logic and providing better alternatives. My entire career has been about qualified communication. I have always brought all of my passion to my work, to my hobbies, to my life.

To me, being on the CSM is no different. Qualifed communication is key. There must be passion. There must be an understanding on many levels of how our game works. I have that.

Morgen Truffaud
Posted - 2011.02.25 22:03:00 - [18]
 

Roc's rule #330: "It’s only the women not being objectified that complain about objectification."

Really funny, buddy. You're not getting my vote.

Link


Karadion
Posted - 2011.02.26 00:25:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Morgen Truffaud
Roc's rule #330: "It’s only the women not being objectified that complain about objectification."

Really funny, buddy. You're not getting my vote.

Link


Good way to self-terminate a campaign I guess.

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.26 10:38:00 - [20]
 


Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.26 16:36:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: FinnAgain Zero

I asked my own alliance, Ushra’Khan, to explain it to me. We spoke about logistical advantages for fleet activity, how easy JBN make it to trap an enemy fleet, or escape from one. Low upkeep costs, they don’t appear on the overview, etc, etc. There are a lot of reasons why nullsec alliances love jump bridges, that’s for sure.

I also spoke with three other alliances. I received pretty much the same information, leading me to believe that the information my own alliance provided was relatively unbiased. That’s the key for me, really. There are always two sides to a story, and in the middle is the truth. I want to work with the CSM to provide a solution that is best for everyone.
CSM delegates should be expected to understand the mechanics they're offering feedback on, yes?

Don't tell me an individual in his alliance misinformed him? Think of the children.

Originally by: Morgen Truffaud
Roc's rule #330: "It’s only the women not being objectified that complain about objectification."

Really funny, buddy. You're not getting my vote.

Link



That part of his blog is "in character"... i.e. the character he RPs is a sexist.

Sinister Dextor
Posted - 2011.02.26 17:34:00 - [22]
 

I remember you, the guy who twice flew Minmitar faction war fleets around aimlessly, avoiding combat. Then spent the rest of his time claiming to be a Minmitar Fleet Commander. Next time I heard of you, was this Capsuleer thing. Now I'm guessing that you see the CSM as a vehicle to advocate your app, with the intention of earning money for your self.

ImmaSplodeYou
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.02.26 23:20:00 - [23]
 

Hey so what're you going to do about Jump Bridge units not appearing on the overview? That ****'s really annoying man, I often get lost when trying to use jumpbridges because they don't appear on the overview

Granted I'm making a big stink over a very small part of your campaign but when you're that clueless about a very key issue I'm not sure I can vote for you :( Sorry

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.27 04:32:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Borza Slavak

Don't tell me an individual in his alliance misinformed him? Think of the children.



One of the issues that the CSM will have to talk with CCP about will (assuming it's not already patched into oblivion before they're elected) is the nature of JB's/cynos/jump freighters/etc...
I think it may very well be detrimental to have a CSM delegate who doesn't know anything about how those work or, worse, have a mistaken impression about them.

Put it this way, if highsec ganking was an issue you felt was important and one of the CSM's said that his position was that everything should stay as it is because "it's impossible to gank anything in Empire bigger than a shuttle", would you feel confident voting for them?

Lorna Sicling
Caldari
Helix Pulse
Posted - 2011.02.27 13:14:00 - [25]
 

I think that Roc's campaign has an interesting perspective. He's approaching it from a different angle to many players could. The thing to remember here is that this is a council or representatives, not a single representative.

I'm essentially a hi sec carebear, (nb I've been in null sec and will eventually go back, I also plan to try wormholes) however, I would not refuse to vote for a candidate who was a ninja salvager for example, even if their gamestyle directly conflicts with mine. The CSM needs to be balanced by having lots of differing opinions - a council full of the same people will fail worse than a titan pilot hitting jump instead of bridge :P

Lorna Sicling
Caldari
Helix Pulse
Posted - 2011.02.27 13:21:00 - [26]
 

I believe (rightly or wrongly) that the CSM needs to have a good mix of people in. As essentially a hi sec carebear (I've been in null recently and have experienced jump bridges on my overview, but not as a beacon like a cyno which is what I think Roc is referring to).

As a carebear, I would not refuse to vote for a ninja salvager as I believe Eve is what it is because of the diversity of players and gamestyles. I believe that Roc's experiences could add a unique benefit to CSM6 - and remember he will be one voice amongst many, not the only voice.

If he is voted on, I'm sure he will face much frustration and disappointment as some things he thinks are important are simply voted down or not seriously discussed due to other topics needing to be covered. I also think that, despite his IC person being an arrogant and mildly sexist guy, I also think his passion and enthuasism for the game will make him a good candidate.

I'm also open to change and have not yet decided where my votes will go, so keep posting your manifesto Roc, and come vote day best of luck, whether I vote for you or not Very Happy

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.27 16:07:00 - [27]
 

There's nothing wrong with having a mix of players (in general).
In specific, however, if that mix of players has members who are ignorant of key issues that will be very important for the CSM to tackle, it's not good.

IIRC, Meissa is pretty carebeary. He seems like a good person to support if you like that sort of thing. Cool

Roc Wieler
Masuat'aa Matari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.02.27 17:54:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: Roc Wieler on 27/02/2011 17:55:12
Politics is fun. Let's go with that.

So far, I've been misquoted, had ideas twisted around to be interpreted to suit someone else's point of view, been labelled as things and accused of things completely untrue.

I must be doing something right.

Let me reiterate again the important parts, as some people seem to only digest the parts they want to:

1. I am not interested in being an amateur game developer. I simply show examples of ideas to illustrate that I am a thinking candidate and not a puppet.
2. I don't know everything about EVE. Having jump bridges show up on overview may not be a solution, but as has been noted, CSM should be comprised of several individuals with differing experiences. If other CSM can intelligently debate the pros and cons of a proposed solution, then I am open to learning more about this game I love.
3. Roc is Roc, a character. I am not Roc. This refers to a term called roleplay that obviously several people don't understand. I'm sorry for your ignorance.
4. As I have stated clearly in my EVE API blog post, I have zero interest in monetizing Capsuleer. That app is dead and shall not be resurrected so get over it already.
5. At the end of the day, nothing the CSM recommends or fights for/against may be successful. So why do it? Because I can. I can stand up and intelligently fight. I can eloquently defend my positions with experience and candor. I can. And if voted in, I will.

What I will not engage in is silly arguments with close minded individuals that believe they know me, or know about me, but honestly have taken neither the time nor interest to read anything beyond what they wish to make of me. That's fine, and you're entitled to your life, and your vote, but please don't expect me to engage you directly unless you're genuinely interested in my positions on issues regarding CSM, and how I hope to serve the community best.

For those of you continuing to be supportive, I thank you for taking the time to understand my intentions in this campaign, and appreciate the effort you put in to spreading the word to #RocTheVote

Saxton Hale
Posted - 2011.02.27 18:08:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Karadion
Originally by: Morgen Truffaud
Roc's rule #330: "It’s only the women not being objectified that complain about objectification."

Really funny, buddy. You're not getting my vote.

Link


Good way to self-terminate a campaign I guess.


HE IS ALSO A TERRORIST

FinnAgain Zero
Roving Guns Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.27 18:53:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Roc Wieler

2. I don't know everything about EVE. Having jump bridges show up on overview may not be a solution, but as has been noted, CSM should be comprised of several individuals with differing experiences.


This is a non sequitor. Players can have differing experiences and still understand core issues that will be of central importance for the next CSM.

There are many important issues that the CSM will have to discuss with CCP. Not knowing about the most basic facts of the key issues is not okay just because others on the CSM will have that experience. In point of fact, those who have that experience are the ones who should be voted in rather than having to compensate for a CSM delegate who can't pull their own weight.

Originally by: Roc Wieler

4. As I have stated clearly in my EVE API blog post, I have zero interest in monetizing Capsuleer. That app is dead and shall not be resurrected so get over it already.


Since you're discussing it, you've already got dev cred for creating the app in the first place and making it so successful. You could most likely parley that into employment or at least resume experience. So CCP won't pay you for it, okay. Why not open-source it so the EVE playerbase can benefit from it?


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