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Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.02.15 12:24:00 - [121]
 

Terrible Snipe

Neamus
Posted - 2011.02.15 12:26:00 - [122]
 

3/10

Obvious really, but it's still achieved 5 pages..

Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.02.15 12:28:00 - [123]
 

What's with all the **** threads lately?

Are we really that bored?

ACY GTMI
Veerhouven Group
The Veerhouven Group
Posted - 2011.02.15 12:43:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 14/02/2011 09:44:28
My conclusion is, after spending several hours in lowsec, that people in general have grown soft and only flex their muscles in lowsec because "that's how it is". I feel sorry for you chickens.

Despicable scum. Rolling Eyes


Hmmm. Try surviving for a few hours in someplace real, like Gonditsa, Old Man Star, Taisy or Aurohunen. (I'm sure there are many others. Please enter your favorite candidate for Low Sec Deathtrap of the Week.)

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 12:54:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Dartauw
God knows we need more of C6P to spill into general discussion.


I have no idea what you just said means or what C6P is.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:02:00 - [126]
 

Originally by: ACY GTMI
Try surviving for a few hours in someplace real, like Gonditsa, Old Man Star, Taisy or Aurohunen.


It's not about surviving or dying. It's about my experience of not much happening in lowsec and when me and my comrade finally engage they scatter about like dust in the wind.

There is another recent thread on this topic, that unfortunately has fallen off the radar by now, and it pushed the issue even further saying there aren't enough people in lowsec. This coincides with my own theory that people don't use this system as much as before, mainly staying in highsec because of their obvious carebear nature or roaming in highsec thinking they're big shots. In any case, it still poses a problem.

I've had someone in this thread saying that one might have to look a good few hours before anything might happen. These aren't things I'm making up from an old hat, it's real, and it's an issue I think is worth discussing.

Dr Kelda
Anarchistic Carebears
Bloodbound.
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:09:00 - [127]
 

I have always seen lowsec as that wasteland I have to cross that sits between where I live, and where I go to buy stuff...

BioSpledge
Amarr
RazorBlade Smile Inc.
Trifecta.
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:23:00 - [128]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 14/02/2011 09:44:28
I recently flew around in lowsec with a buddy of mine to see if we could hunt down some easy victims. Yes, we were bored. Turns out everyone flew away, scared to engage into combat with us, even though our ships were nothing to write home to mummy about.

My conclusion is, after spending several hours in lowsec, that people in general have grown soft and only flex their muscles in lowsec because "that's how it is". I feel sorry for you chickens.

Despicable scum. Rolling Eyes


So, you hunt new players running in low sec who are feeling brave, destroy there confidence in the first week and when they dont come back or dock up when they see the likes of you, you call them cowards?

Join a 0.0 alliance and go do some real pvp you god damn coward

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:36:00 - [129]
 

Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 15/02/2011 13:36:59
Originally by: BioSpledge
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 14/02/2011 09:44:28
I recently flew around in lowsec with a buddy of mine to see if we could hunt down some easy victims. Yes, we were bored. Turns out everyone flew away, scared to engage into combat with us, even though our ships were nothing to write home to mummy about.

My conclusion is, after spending several hours in lowsec, that people in general have grown soft and only flex their muscles in lowsec because "that's how it is". I feel sorry for you chickens.

Despicable scum. Rolling Eyes


So, you hunt new players running in low sec who are feeling brave, destroy there confidence in the first week and when they dont come back or dock up when they see the likes of you, you call them cowards?

Join a 0.0 alliance and go do some real pvp you god damn coward


It's an internet tough guy pretending to be an internet tough chick. Do you really think he'll go null sec?

Me? I have an excuse. This is my main... I'm still a noob. Those that hide behind alts and try to impress by making you think it's a woman... hopeless.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:45:00 - [130]
 

Originally by: Dr Kelda
I have always seen lowsec as that wasteland I have to cross that sits between where I live, and where I go to buy stuff...


I'm sure you are not the only one who thinks of lowsec in that way. I came to think along those lines myself recently.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:52:00 - [131]
 

Originally by: BioSpledge
So, you hunt new players running in low sec who are feeling brave, destroy there confidence in the first week and when they dont come back or dock up when they see the likes of you, you call them cowards?


Oh my, talk about interpreting things that aren't there. Is your reading skill very low or did you just decide to make up something so you could write in this thread? Where have I ever said that I hunt new players? Where have I mentioned destroying others confidence?

You sir, need to read the thread and what it's about and not start to interpret things that you see fit. The discussion is whether lowsec is devoid of any meaningful life and activity, not whether I hunt down new people, that's definitely beside the point here.

Well done for trying but unfortunately you failed miserably in the reading comprehension department this time around.


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Join a 0.0 alliance and go do some real pvp you god damn coward


I am currently very satisfied managing the corporation I have and I have no desire to go into null. That's not the topic of this discussion anyhow.

knobber Jobbler
Holding Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:54:00 - [132]
 

In my limited experience some low sec has people in it, where as large areas of low sec are dead. I remember traveling round low sec down south a few months back and all I saw was one velator in 12 systems.

The OP needs to realise, most sensible people, low sec or not, will only pick a fight they have a chance of winning or at least even odds. If he wants cheap PVP, go sit on EC gate or Tama gate.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 13:58:00 - [133]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
It's an internet tough guy pretending to be an internet tough chick.


No, and no. I'm not much of a tough chick but I enjoy EVE and several interesting aspects of gameplay it offers. Sorry to burst your imaginary bubble.

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Those that hide behind alts and try to impress by making you think it's a woman... hopeless.


I have my reasons to "hide" behind an alt (which I've previously mentioned), it doesn't really matter that I am a woman. The current issue with lowsec is bigger than the question what gender I am.

Only sexist teenagers, you included, could ever skew the topic of this thread into something like this. So if that is what you want to discuss then maybe start your own topic about it?

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:04:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: knobber Jobbler
In my limited experience some low sec has people in it, where as large areas of low sec are dead.


It's obvious I was unfortunate enough to visit one of these "large dead areas" then. I'm fine with that. Only trouble is, this dead area seems to grow larger by the year, which I find troublesome.

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I remember traveling round low sec down south a few months back and all I saw was one velator in 12 systems.


Which means what I said initially in my original post rings true to some degree. Thank you for not skewing the topic and not trolling. I didn't believe people on this forum could be as obnoxious and rude as they've been so far. Good thing they're in minority though.


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If he wants cheap PVP, go sit on EC gate or Tama gate.


I'm still a she. But thanks anyway, I'll keep that in consideration. Smile

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:06:00 - [135]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin

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Those that hide behind alts and try to impress by making you think it's a woman... hopeless.


I have my reasons to "hide" behind an alt (which I've previously mentioned), it doesn't really matter that I am a woman. The current issue with lowsec is bigger than the question what gender I am.

Only sexist teenagers, you included, could ever skew the topic of this thread into something like this. So if that is what you want to discuss then maybe start your own topic about it?

The lady doth protest too much, methinks.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:12:00 - [136]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


My guess is you're not prepared to start your own thread about something nonessential as female pvp'ers so you rather stay and troll here.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:15:00 - [137]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
The lady doth protest too much, methinks.


My guess is you're not prepared to start your own thread about something nonessential as female pvp'ers so you rather stay and troll here.


I have no issues with female PvPers.

Pity there aren't any in this thread however. Besides, you have to admit it isn't that often one gets to throw a bit of Shakespeare around on these forums.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:20:00 - [138]
 

Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 15/02/2011 14:21:20
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
I have no issues with female PvPers.


..But you rather troll here.

Right.

Not much more to say then sport, I don't feel I need to prove to a random guy on the Internet what gender I am anyway.

So troll away, chances are I'm not replying to you unless you start saying something worth replying to. The rest will be reported.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:24:00 - [139]
 

Originally by: Neamus
3/10 Obvious really, but it's still achieved 5 pages..


What's with the x out of 10 anyway? I've seen it several times from random people here.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:27:00 - [140]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Neamus
3/10 Obvious really, but it's still achieved 5 pages..


What's with the x out of 10 anyway? I've seen it several times from random people here.


That's an internet meme where you're being rated on a troll posting as to how good or effective said trolling is. To receive a 10/10, for example, would indicate a mastery of trolling and a thread worth congratulations for pretty much catching everyone off guard. The lower the score, the more transparent the troll attempt is considered to be and the less effective. Keep in mind, it's purely subjective and opinions will vary.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:47:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst
That's an internet meme where you're being rated on a troll posting as to how good or effective said trolling is.


Okey then. Sorry, but I still don't get it unfortunately.

What has that got to do with this thread? If someone thinks I'm trolling wouldn't it be easier to just ignore it? Or is the EVE community a bunch of children who jump on each other as soon as they see something they don't like?

Giving a thread they dislike a "troll score" is, in fact, trolling in itself so the only thing they do is effectively rating themselves.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.15 14:56:00 - [142]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Ingvar Angst
That's an internet meme where you're being rated on a troll posting as to how good or effective said trolling is.


Okey then. Sorry, but I still don't get it unfortunately.

What has that got to do with this thread? If someone thinks I'm trolling wouldn't it be easier to just ignore it? Or is the EVE community a bunch of children who jump on each other as soon as they see something they don't like?

Giving a thread they dislike a "troll score" is, in fact, trolling in itself so the only thing they do is effectively rating themselves.


Heh... you pretty much nailed it... although adding the "children" insult won't tend to produce more favorable posts in the future to be honest. But, there are indeed some people that simply like to call a perceived troll thread out, there are others that simply like to "feed teh trolls" and keep the threads alive, and there are indeed plenty that flat out ignore them and don't post at all. You also can't exclude the bored bunch that simply post to help pass the time during, I don't know, a real slow period at work or the like.

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:10:00 - [143]
 

5/10

I tend to feed when I'm bored. What do I win? Very Happy

Dartauw
Minmatar
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:11:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Neamus
3/10 Obvious really, but it's still achieved 5 pages..


What's with the x out of 10 anyway? I've seen it several times from random people here.



You should have wrapped it up while you were on top, this last page has been one sad monologue. You could have had four solid pages, but I guess he who is greedy is always in want.


2/10

Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:27:00 - [145]
 

Wow, so much bitterness in only one thread.

I do not believe the OP is trolling, and I do believe the OP is a woman. Is she completely right? No. Is she wrong? Not entirely. Did she use completely out of place slander ("chickens", "despicable scum" and what not), yes indeed, but really, let it go already. Nobody is perfect, accept it and move on.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:36:00 - [146]
 

Originally by: Dartauw
You should have wrapped it up while you were on top, this last page has been one sad monologue. You could have had four solid pages, but I guess he who is greedy is always in want.

Problem is that whenever I feel things are starting to move, someone comes in and ruins it with a troll comment or skews the topic into something nonessential.

It's as if the topic is so taboo and controversial people don't know how to respond properly to it. So they apply the "caveman behaviour", hoping that nobody will notice, and berate the OP (me in this situation) and make up things that aren't there.

In general it's apparent people have a narrow view of what is so-called trolling and apply it to anything they don't agree with. Again, this coincides with the "caveman behaviour".

Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:40:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Dartauw
You should have wrapped it up while you were on top, this last page has been one sad monologue. You could have had four solid pages, but I guess he who is greedy is always in want.

Problem is that whenever I feel things are starting to move, someone comes in and ruins it with a troll comment or skews the topic into something nonessential.

It's as if the topic is so taboo and controversial people don't know how to respond properly to it. So they apply the "caveman behaviour", hoping that nobody will notice, and berate the OP (me in this situation) and make up things that aren't there.

In general it's apparent people have a narrow view of what is so-called trolling and apply it to anything they don't agree with. Again, this coincides with the "caveman behaviour".

Look, please, you started this whole thread out as an insult - calling lowsec dead, and its inhabitants soft based on a single visit, to an area you later admitted probably was one of the "wasteland" zones. What kind of response did you expect? And what is the point of keeping this thread up anyway?

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:43:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Horizonist
Wow, so much bitterness in only one thread.


To me, that's the most surprising aspect of this whole thread. The topic seems to be very taboo among the community, which is quite scary, and seems a minority of people think they have the right to abuse and act like children.

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Is she completely right? No. Is she wrong? Not entirely.


I don't see why my experience would be "wrong", it's still my experience. I wanted to share it, together with a pressing issue that I'm not alone to feel, with the rest of the community. But the apalling behaviour from most people here leads me to believe the community is worse here than in the game!

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Did she use completely out of place slander ("chickens", "despicable scum" and what not),


I did use a smiley, even though it might have not been the correct one at the time.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:52:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Horizonist
Look, please, you started this whole thread out as an insult - calling lowsec dead, and its inhabitants soft based on a single visit,


Yes I did, because that was the experience I had. How you can interpret that as an insult is definitely a mystery to me. Lowsec is dead in vast areas of space, there's no denying it, and it's an issue that is growing every year and frankly is very troubling.

It was a single prolonged visit, one out of many, which together with conversations with people living in lowsec led me to this conclusion. I didn't include that in the OP which in hindsight I should have. I didn't expect people to take first possible opportunity to troll and/or question my gender because of it.

When I visited lowsec in previous years there was always something happening wherever you went. You needed to duck and dive because there were bullets and beams shooting left and right. They were currently shining with their absence and that in itself is a negative change.

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to an area you later admitted probably was one of the "wasteland" zones.


I admitted to it because I, compared to most people replying in this thread, can see reason. However, this raises further questions. Questions I didn't expect were taboo and hush-hush among the community.

I wasn't prepared to be ridiculed and abused because I raised important issues with a game we all play. It seems the stealth ignorance among the EVE players is vaster than the naked eye can spot.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.15 15:56:00 - [150]
 

Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 15/02/2011 15:57:40
Edited by: Ingvar Angst on 15/02/2011 15:56:49
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin

To me, that's the most surprising aspect of this whole thread. The topic seems to be very taboo among the community, ...

I don't see why my experience would be "wrong", it's still my experience. I wanted to share it, together with a pressing issue that I'm not alone to feel, with the rest of the community. ....
Assorted snips for space...

It's not that anything is taboo from what I've seen, nor is it that no one cares about your experiences. More likely it's how you presented the post... "I recently flew around in lowsec with a buddy of mine to see if we could hunt down some easy victims. Yes, we were bored. Turns out everyone flew away, scared to engage into combat with us, even though our ships were nothing to write home to mummy about. "

My conclusion is, after spending several hours in lowsec, that people in general have grown soft and only flex their muscles in lowsec because "that's how it is". I feel sorry for you chickens.

Despicable scum. "

Your post goes beyond relating your experience... it's laden with insults and also appears to show a basic lack of understanding. As mentioned, many people in lowsec aren't equipped for PvP, so yes, they're going to run away. Chicken, or smart? Tie that with you looking for easy victims and complaining that easy victims ran away... well, it's not going to get a very favorable response as you've seen.

I would wager that had you rephrased your post into more of an inquiry as to why it was so difficult to find the satisfactory PvP you were looking (sans any insults) for you'd have generated a much more interesting discussion.



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