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Ai Shun
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.14 22:06:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Menkaure
Meh, I call troll/bull. Obviously don't know where to look.
7 of us did a quick bc/bs roam last night, took us about 30mins to find a great fight (one of my best in Eve). Took down an archon. Lowsec = certainly worth playing if you know where to find people. (We did get ****d later, but what the hey. All good fun)



Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Menkaure
Meh, I call troll/bull. Obviously don't know where to look.

You can call it whatever you want, doesn't make it more true. The fact of the matter is that I was roaming lowsec for almost a whole day and didn't get much or any action at all. And that was no isolated incident either.




And yet, he was able to find some action within 30 minutes. There seems to be a fair number of people capable of actually finding action in lowsec. You appear to be the one exception.

Dartauw
Minmatar
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2011.02.14 22:35:00 - [92]
 

What was your fleet composition, if I may ask? (see no reason why you would choose to hide it)

Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.14 22:57:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 14/02/2011 14:55:17
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
You sir act as if they know not what they do.


I'm not a "sir", but nice try. In any case, how you could get the impression of me mentioning they didn't know what they were doing is a mystery. Being a carebear doesn't mean that at all. Stop trying to read in things that haven't been said, for the purpose of trolling.

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Did you stick around/follow them to see if they got some pvp ships,


Yes we did. If you bothered reading the thread before pressing the reply button like a re-tard pressing its tube for food, you would realise that at one point a guy was trying to lure us into a trap where his buddies were waiting.




My apologies for missing your oh so very small mention of someone trying to set a trap on you.

It still does not change the fact that you calling people carebears for not engaging in a battle that they know they are not set up for is a fairly clear example of how you are implying that they do not know what they are doing.

Sun Tzu, you should read some of his work.


Originally by: Aderata Nonkin


From tomorrow I will live in lowsec for three (that's 3 for the rest of you ignorant illiterates) months with my main and a selected few members of my own corporation.

If it remains the same dull, void and utterly mind-numbingly boring place that I've come to experience lately then I will probably leave the game.

"Good riddance!", I hear you squirm. Yeah, that's right carebears. Someone else will have to shoot your sorry face.


Hey you little ****, err I mean little lady, why do you not post with your main and see how much action you do not see from those you are calling out. I know for a fact that it takes a lot less then your present drivel to attract targets.


Slade

Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.02.14 23:02:00 - [94]
 


Flybiere
Gallente
Intergalactic Shrimp Emporium
Posted - 2011.02.14 23:03:00 - [95]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
She.

Shocked Neutral Shocked ugh


Didn't see that one coming, huh? Wink

There are more women playing EVE than you realise. Get out of your parents' basement and you might find it out for your yourself.


Wait wait wait.. you mean to suggest that by leaving ones basement you are more likely to encounter a woman playing Eve? Name one situation where mentioning eve outside of your basement is going to garner a response?

Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
Posted - 2011.02.14 23:08:00 - [96]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 14/02/2011 09:44:28
...My conclusion is, after spending several hours in lowsec...


Welcome to eve. Low sec actually has more kills per person and per system than null sec. So if it takes too long to get decent pvp there it takes too long in eve.

But I have been in low sec for about a year and even when you are familiar with the systems it can take a good hour or 2 to get a decent fight.

Someday ccp will fix fw and there will be quality pvp on tap. Until then expect finding decent pvp to take hours at best.

Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.02.14 23:09:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Flybiere
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Mag's
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
She.

Shocked Neutral Shocked ugh


Didn't see that one coming, huh? Wink

There are more women playing EVE than you realise. Get out of your parents' basement and you might find it out for your yourself.


Wait wait wait.. you mean to suggest that by leaving ones basement you are more likely to encounter a woman playing Eve? Name one situation where mentioning eve outside of your basement is going to garner a response?


I often get head tiled looks and end up comparing EvE's niche to WoW. ugh

Kitty McKitty
Gallente
In Praise Of Shadows
Posted - 2011.02.14 23:10:00 - [98]
 

I wish I had a basement.

Flybiere
Gallente
Intergalactic Shrimp Emporium
Posted - 2011.02.14 23:13:00 - [99]
 

Originally by: Captain Die

I often get head tiled looks and end up comparing EvE's niche to WoW. ugh


Having spent many an evening trying to worm some aspect of my hobbies into an every day pub conversation I can say, without doubt, that EvE does not impress the ladies. The ones who it does impress are probably in their basements. Much like the OP probably is now.

Blue Waffle.

Sig Sour
Posted - 2011.02.14 23:14:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
What I was flying doesn't really matter in the context of this discussion. I can safely say it wasn't anything fierce and I would probably be destroyed on the spot should anyone be bold enough to take me and my partner on.

Actually it makes a world of a difference. A lot of ships people commonly use to avoid pvp, so many people won't bother trying to kill those types of ships. If you happened to run across anyone flashy and you didn't get a fight out of them, I suspect you were in a fight avoiding ship and they didn't want to bother.

Now if you were in fact sitting on a gate, with no criminal status, and you are complaining about all the other non criminals going by who aren't engaging you, well then you are just being hypocritical.

Mel Lifera
Gallente
Ambrye Logistics Ltd.
Posted - 2011.02.15 02:15:00 - [101]
 

So this one time I decided to take my PSE and hunt some whitetail. I visited these woods where I was told there's plenty of deer and I started stomping through there, and there wasn't like a single whitetail that stood there so I could shoot it. I saw a couple in the distance but they always ran when they heard me. Obviously this 'hunting' thing is a bunch of bull and anyone who says they've ever managed to actually bag a deer is nothing but a damned liar. The end.

Chopper Rollins
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.02.15 02:34:00 - [102]
 

WOW OP THANKS FOR THE EMPTY THREAD!

I LOVE lo sec, so this thread caught my interest, hard to tell from the title alone that it was an obnoxious ego-fondle but you get that.
My whole game in losec is avoiding twerps looking for easy kills, good gravy some of the overpowered things that have powdered my little thrasher! All part of the fun. I'd say 'see you around' but it's evident that you're more suited to mugging than hunting.
Enjoy your 0/10 :)

Lost Greybeard
Gallente
Posted - 2011.02.15 03:15:00 - [103]
 

I've actually been looking for a new lowsec home on and off, since my previous one now has a couple alliances sitting on it so there are no sites to run while waiting for pvp to come to me. Fights are fun, but I need to pay for my ships, too.

Been running l4s in the interim, but it's not the same...

Cipher Jones
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.02.15 03:34:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: The Djego
People running away from pvp since years.


Must have been many years ago in that case. I used to remember lowsec as a free-for-all wild west. These days it's the middle ground for people who are too afraid of null but don't want to admit they reside in highsec.

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And welcome to low sec, enjoy your stay.


Thank you. I will indeed. Cool


What you're saying is when you had low SP it was scary and now that you don't its not.


The only question is do you realize you were saying it?

Molly Milli0ns
Posted - 2011.02.15 04:16:00 - [105]
 

WURST THRED EVAR

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 07:04:00 - [106]
 

Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 15/02/2011 07:04:37
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
It still does not change the fact that you calling people carebears for not engaging in a battle that they know they are not set up for is a fairly clear example of how you are implying that they do not know what they are doing.


The certainty doesn't lie in the fact that they knew a battle was at hand, it lies in the fact that they escaped as soon as they saw someone approaching them. Now, if we both had battlecruisers and fired on all cylinders I would probably shake in boots myself and then proceed to get away. But we didn't.

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Sun Tzu, you should read some of his work.


Good tip. Thanks.


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Hey you little ****, err I mean little lady,


Silly namecalling just makes you lose any argument you present, thus rendering most things said by you null and void. We both know you're not an idiot so please try and remain civil. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt this time and reply to it. The reason why I don't post on my main is because I'm currently setting up a small base in lowsec.

I've been told in this very thread that unless I live there I shouldn't be mouthing out. So now I am. With that said, I'm keen on battles but I'm not stupid. I'm not going to let anyone seek me down as they wish. Someone mentioned doing things on their terms in lowsec. These are my terms.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 07:07:00 - [107]
 

Originally by: Cipher Jones
What you're saying is when you had low SP it was scary and now that you don't its not.


Where did I say I had low SP, I must have missed that detail myself.


Don't assume things, it makes you look silly and argumentative. Stick to the facts, sport.

Centri Sixx
Posted - 2011.02.15 07:47:00 - [108]
 

Here's the problem. What ships were you flying that everyone could run from you, and what ships were they flying?

If you are flying disposable frigs or faction ones, chances are you should be able to catch people. Everyone wont run away because not everyone religiously mashes dscan or is in a fast aligning ship. That doesn't mean you will survive, but I find it really hard to believe that every single person you encountered could elude you.

If you are also flying ships that can be wtfpwned like you said, you should also should be getting people willing to risk it because they can kill you fast before a blob appears.

I live in lowsec myself, but I've been nailed once, and only managed to not be killed many times by being paranoid and evaccing every time I see certain ship types in Dscan. A lot of times the only times ive managed to do so is because no one thinks to equip a long point these days.

So I think it's fair to ask what you were flying, and what you came across, for your argument to hold some weight.


Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 08:08:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Cearain
Low sec actually has more kills per person and per system than null sec. So if it takes too long to get decent pvp there it takes too long in eve.


I know this was true a few years ago when lowsec bustled with activity. These days it seems people rather go to null to experience the real thing, or they stay in highsec in the comfort of being protected by Concord and god almighty.

This isn't something I just made up by being in lowsec a couple of times; I've talked to other friendds who have resided there far longer than myself. I had a chat with them about this issue because I was surprised that I wouldn't meet a ship for a long time and then when something flew by they quickly scurried away as soon as they gazed upon me and my wingman.

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it can take a good hour or 2 to get a decent fight.


Thanks, that's what I was waiting to hear. How come you have to look for that long then? Isn't lowsec supposed to be "dangerous" and "wild west" where anyone is a target?

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 08:12:00 - [110]
 

Originally by: Chopper Rollins
I LOVE lo sec, so this thread caught my interest,


I'm glad it did. My purpose with creating the thread wasn't "ego-fondle", I don't need to resort to that kind of thing on an Internet forum, it was merely to raise an issue I've encountered by visiting lowsec on numerous occasions and through conversations with allies residing there.

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good gravy some of the overpowered things that have powdered my little thrasher! All part of the fun.


Listen, I didn't have anything remotely overpowered and I even updated my clone just before going into lowsec (which you're supposed to do anyway) just because I knew I would lose my ship and get utterly destroyed in the process.

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I'd say 'see you around' but it's evident that you're more suited to mugging than hunting.


Oh no, hunting is fun and that's what I want to do. It's hard to do it when there's nothing to hunt though. Sad

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 08:24:00 - [111]
 

Originally by: Centri Sixx
What ships were you flying that everyone could run from you, and what ships were they flying?


I was flying an ill-equipped Dominix, I can't for the life of me recall what my wingman had. It was something similar, I'll ask him the next time I catch him online for the purpose of this thread.

We had a third member of our crew flying not far behind us and he had a regular Iteron, nothing fancy there either imo.

In the end we had the idea of getting two transports in the mix just to see if anyone would be interested in taking a whiff but that might be something we'll try for next time.

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but I find it really hard to believe that every single person you encountered could elude you.


We didn't find that many ships worth taking on, it was mostly empty dead space. Like I've mentioned earlier, there were a few transports on the horizon but we opted not to attack them because that wouldn't be the reason why we entered lowsec in the first place.

I like fleet battles but penalties in an open goal is hardly exciting in the long-run. I play handball irl so I know the importance of teamplay and the balance that comes from it.

Arthur Frayn
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.15 08:28:00 - [112]
 

Edited by: Arthur Frayn on 15/02/2011 08:28:48
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Stuff.


There are two systems where you will always find pvp fights going on - Rancer and Tama. Base your operation in one of those two systems and you will get all the pvp you could ever want, and I daresay a lot more pvp than you'd ever want.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 08:32:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Arthur Frayn
Rancer and Tama. Base your operation in one of those two systems and you will get all the pvp you could ever want, and I daresay a lot more pvp than you'd ever want.


Thank you very much. I've added Rancer and Tama to my list of systems to check out. My core members and myself are currently establishing our little base of operations in lowsec and we'll be finished by the end of this week I hope. It doesn't go as quickly as I anticipated.

After that my plan is to explore these systems to have a feel for what they're like. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 09:25:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Kitty McKitty
I wish I had a basement.


It's not that exciting really. I just keep my training equipment, moving boxes, clothes and old paintings down there anyway.

Oh, and the boiler resides there too of course.

Dartauw
Minmatar
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2011.02.15 09:54:00 - [115]
 

Edited by: Dartauw on 15/02/2011 10:09:35
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin

Thank you very much. I've added Rancer and Tama to my list of systems to check out. My core members and myself are currently establishing our little base of operations in lowsec and we'll be finished by the end of this week I hope. It doesn't go as quickly as I anticipated.

After that my plan is to explore these systems to have a feel for what they're like. Hopefully I'm proven wrong.


SmileSmileLaughingLaughingWinkRolling Eyes

Have you ever used the star map?

Oh and post with your main, that would be awesome. It would at least prove you're no troll.
Or never mind that!
I remembered you're a girl gamer, apparently. If you do, you'll just take the opportunity to advertise for your blog or youtube channel or some crap like that.


Slade Trillgon
Endless Possibilities Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.15 11:02:00 - [116]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Originally by: Slade Trillgon
]Hey you little ****, err I mean little lady,


Silly namecalling just makes you lose any argument you present, thus rendering most things said by you null and void. We both know you're not an idiot so please try and remain civil. I'll give you the benefit of a doubt this time and reply to it. The reason why I don't post on my main is because I'm currently setting up a small base in lowsec.

I've been told in this very thread that unless I live there I shouldn't be mouthing out. So now I am. With that said, I'm keen on battles but I'm not stupid. I'm not going to let anyone seek me down as they wish. Someone mentioned doing things on their terms in lowsec. These are my terms.


If I remember correctly, you called me a ****** first, so please do head your own advice.

Also, in that part that I missed about someone trying to set a trap for your group, why did you run and not fight? Could it be that you knew that you were not prepared for that fight?

I will also say it again, unless you picked an active area to live in you will not see many fights, so please post with your main so the denizens you are calling out may bring you what you want Wink



Slade

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 11:38:00 - [117]
 

Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 15/02/2011 11:39:40
Originally by: Dartauw
Have you ever used the star map?


Of course I have, what does that have to do with anything? Lowsec has too many systems for me to look through each and everyone in order to find some activity. Therefore it's good to have a few systems at hand to check out prior to doing anything else.

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I remembered your a girl gamer, apparently. If you do, you'll just take the opportunity to advertise for your blog or youtube channel or some crap like that.


Sorry, I don't have time to write blogs or maintaining my own Youtube channel. I don't see what the relevance is whether I'm a woman or not either. I enjoy the game on my terms, just like everyone else, and it's of no importance what the gender of the person is.

If you consider me being a troll then I really don't understand why you took the time to reply in this thread, is it because you like arguing with them or is it because you're not really sure but since I'm not a guy it gives you an opportunity to make sexist remarks?

prospector oen
Posted - 2011.02.15 11:53:00 - [118]
 

lets put it this way there might be 300 low sec systems, now off those 300 systems there will be 250 wormholes facing in, and probably another 200 wh off those wormholes and theres ppl live in those wormholes ( so theres more pvp if u can scan) u can always suicide gank haulers and other ships in empire. Or u can press on into the npc 00 regions. So theres always pvp if u want to find it - the other option is join an established low sec piracy alliance who will probably control a few systems and have regular roams ( yes it might be a big blobbish but having blues to hlep out and get advice-roams with isnt a bad thing)

Dartauw
Minmatar
Retired Pirate Club
Posted - 2011.02.15 12:05:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Edited by: Aderata Nonkin on 15/02/2011 11:39:40
Originally by: Dartauw
Have you ever used the star map?


Of course I have, what does that have to do with anything? Lowsec has too many systems for me to look through each and everyone in order to find some activity. Therefore it's good to have a few systems at hand to check out prior to doing anything else.


hahhaaha, awesome..
6/10
four pages closing on five! points retracted for using an alt with no prior posting history but other trolling and for not generating any significant drama.

But it works! Keep it up. God knows we need more of C6P to spill into general discussion.

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.15 12:17:00 - [120]
 

Originally by: Slade Trillgon
If I remember correctly, you called me a ****** first, so please do head your own advice.


I actually made a simile, so I didn't call you anything directly. If you don't know what that is I suggest you look it up or go back to secondary school.

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Also, in that part that I missed about someone trying to set a trap for your group, why did you run and not fight?


We did both actually. They ended up 8vs2, odds that I don't particularly like even on a sunny day. While my wingman (with the slightly better ship and skills) fended them off and I managed to escape before I was blown into pieces. It was very exciting but it was a poor award after trawling the void space for hours.

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Could it be that you knew that you were not prepared for that fight?


Of course. I absolutely knew I wasn't prepared for a full-on battle. My ship was not good enough for it. The only thing I was prepared for was getting a shoot-out, maybe win it, but most probably get destroyed.

This is something I've stated time and again in this very thread if you just took the time to read it instead of resorting to petty namecalling and trolling.

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I will also say it again, unless you picked an active area to live in you will not see many fights,


I've got tip on many active areas in this thread that I intend to look into. There is no need for me to post with my main.


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