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Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:27:00 - [1]
 

As the CSM applications are about to begin, i thought it would only be logical to start my campaign for CSM. We all know that eve has its problems, in fact the only people who say that there are no problems in EvE benefit from these problems themselves. I'm talking about broken market mechanics, marcos, ganking, abuse of wardec mechanics, etc. In fact every day i see posts based on these ideas, which ofcourse only seem to attract the trolls, adding such enlightening comments as..

"lol carebear"

"mmmm cry some more!"

"tears fuel my ship"

and so on..

As CSM i would work towards a future where players opinions matter and allowing us to mold the game around the community.

A wise man once said " a reasonable man will change to suit his surroundings, an unreasonable man will change his surroundings to suit himself ".

I believe in this idea, but i obviously don't mean for my own personal gain. I am talking about the gamer community as a whole. It's time that we took control of our game, it's time me made the choices!

So vote for me, and be unreasonable! Twisted Evil

An outline of my referendum.

Introduction of mechanics that will destroy the macro armies and restore stability to the market.

Replace the mechanics of ganking in order to stabilize trade and make the game more entertaining for criminals.

Modifications to the wardec system to prevent unwanted griefing.

Increased system defense mechanics that will allow smaller alliances to secure space.


I am of course willing to answer all questions you may have.

thanks you for reading.
Very Happy



p.s i know a load of you want me to do my avatar, i just haven't got it right yet! Razz

Richard Christy
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:31:00 - [2]
 

/me sighs

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:31:00 - [3]
 

not until you have a face at least

Jenny Cameron
Caldari
Ordo Eventus
Inception Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:32:00 - [4]
 

What's your opinion on bloodline change for free/ISK/Plex?

Viertausend
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:35:00 - [5]
 

griefing is unwanted?

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:41:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Jenny Cameron
What's your opinion on bloodline change for free/ISK/Plex?


Well i certainly don't feel using RL money is right, our characters belong to us and we should be able to decide what they are like. I would say that something like a bloodline or ancestry should be able to be manipulated at will, maybe for an ingame isk pay out. On a side note our avatars should also be changeable at will in game. Maybe we could even start buying bling for our characters? Cool

Flybiere
Gallente
Intergalactic Shrimp Emporium
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:43:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Flybiere on 09/02/2011 15:42:49
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
A wise man once said " a reasonable man will change to suit his surroundings, an unreasonable man will change his surroundings to suit himself ".



May want to rethink your choice of quotation here.

Unless you mean to say you are unreasonable.

...Oh wait.

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:44:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Viertausend
griefing is unwanted?


Their is a reason why they call it griefing...Razz

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:48:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Flybiere
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
A wise man once said " a reasonable man will change to suit his surroundings, an unreasonable man will change his surroundings to suit himself ".


May want to rethink your choice of quotation here.
Seconding this.

Bullet, meet foot.

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:52:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Flybiere
Edited by: Flybiere on 09/02/2011 15:42:49
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
A wise man once said " a reasonable man will change to suit his surroundings, an unreasonable man will change his surroundings to suit himself ".



May want to rethink your choice of quotation here.

Unless you mean to say you are unreasonable.

...Oh wait.


Thats exactly what i mean.

Think about it, do you want a perfectly acceptable and agreeable CSM who isn't going to get anything done and be a complete waste of space, or do you want to make your vote mean something by voting for someone who will fight your corner?

Larg Kellein
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:53:00 - [11]
 

Not if you were the only candidate and voting was mandatory...

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:56:00 - [12]
 

Wasn't there like a special forum or something where junk like this can be dumped?

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:56:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Joe Phoenix
i thought


I found your problem.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:57:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Joe Phoenix

Replace the mechanics of ganking in order to stabilize trade and make the game more entertaining for criminals.

Modifications to the wardec system to prevent unwanted griefing.




Two worst ideas ive come across in a long time.

You cannot replace the mechanics of anything, it would amount to replacing combat mechanics (Read: SOE, NGE, Starwars Galaxies) and that is bad at its core.

Also, attempting to
Quote:
prevent unwanted griefing
goes against EVE's entire core of being 'cold and harsh'.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:57:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Professor Tarantula on 09/02/2011 15:58:30
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
do you want to make your vote mean something by voting for someone who will fight your corner?


I'd actually prefer a nice plant for my corner, to help the feng shui.

Maybe you can fight the snowdrifts outside instead?

Neuntausend
Posted - 2011.02.09 15:59:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Viertausend
griefing is unwanted?


Their is a reason why they call it griefing...Razz


i think there might be people who want it.

griefing and being griefed, loosing and winning - people sometimes call it "playing a game".

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:01:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Neuntausend
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Viertausend
griefing is unwanted?


Their is a reason why they call it griefing...Razz


i think there might be people who want it.

griefing and being griefed, loosing and winning - people sometimes call it "playing a game".


You must hang out with some very weird people...Neutral

Angel HUN
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:11:00 - [18]
 

I am sure Mr. zedrik cayne will have something to say about this.


Also, get out.

Crumplecorn
Gallente
Eve Cluster Explorations
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:12:00 - [19]
 

It's never griefing anyway.

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:13:00 - [20]
 

Ha i am sure he will write an essay as soon as he can!Laughing

Achttausend
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:34:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Neuntausend
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Viertausend
griefing is unwanted?


Their is a reason why they call it griefing...Razz


i think there might be people who want it.

griefing and being griefed, loosing and winning - people sometimes call it "playing a game".



You must hang out with some very weird people...Neutral


i play eve after all.

Zaqar
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:35:00 - [22]
 

Sad thing is, most mongs will probably vote for it. Rememeber that clueless dutch woman whose manifesto basically amounted to "let's destroy eve"? If she got voted in....

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:39:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Zaqar
Sad thing is, most mongs will probably vote for it. Rememeber that clueless dutch woman whose manifesto basically amounted to "let's destroy eve"? If she got voted in....


Nobody is talking about destroying eve, calm down.

Indeterminacy
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:43:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Angel HUN
Also, get out.

Myra2007
Millstone Industries
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:44:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Zaqar
Sad thing is, most mongs will probably vote for it. Rememeber that clueless dutch woman whose manifesto basically amounted to "let's destroy eve"? If she got voted in....


And then that morally superior player got booted because of an NDA breach. Yeah, carebears are better humans, eh?

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 16:55:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Myra2007
Originally by: Zaqar
Sad thing is, most mongs will probably vote for it. Rememeber that clueless dutch woman whose manifesto basically amounted to "let's destroy eve"? If she got voted in....


And then that morally superior player got booted because of an NDA breach. Yeah, carebears are better humans, eh?


Really depends on your definition of pvp. I will respect a pirate over a scammer any day...

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2011.02.09 17:04:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Flybiere
Edited by: Flybiere on 09/02/2011 15:42:49
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
A wise man once said " a reasonable man will change to suit his surroundings, an unreasonable man will change his surroundings to suit himself ".



May want to rethink your choice of quotation here.

Unless you mean to say you are unreasonable.

...Oh wait.


Thats exactly what i mean.

Think about it, do you want a perfectly acceptable and agreeable CSM who isn't going to get anything done and be a complete waste of space, or do you want to make your vote mean something by voting for someone who will fight your corner?


clever diplomatic hint: unreasonable people get ignored. This is especially true with the CSM, which continues to exist only because CCP wills it - they are under no obligation to reveal anything or discuss anything with you. Raging at them will only hamper the ability of the CSM and CCP to actually get anything done

basically, i won't vote for you, and no one should vote for you. good day sir~

CCP Adida


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.09 17:08:00 - [28]
 

Moved from General Discussion

Joe Phoenix
The Commonwealth Federation
Posted - 2011.02.09 17:10:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Originally by: Flybiere
Edited by: Flybiere on 09/02/2011 15:42:49
Originally by: Joe Phoenix
A wise man once said " a reasonable man will change to suit his surroundings, an unreasonable man will change his surroundings to suit himself ".



May want to rethink your choice of quotation here.

Unless you mean to say you are unreasonable.

...Oh wait.


Thats exactly what i mean.

Think about it, do you want a perfectly acceptable and agreeable CSM who isn't going to get anything done and be a complete waste of space, or do you want to make your vote mean something by voting for someone who will fight your corner?


clever diplomatic hint: unreasonable people get ignored. This is especially true with the CSM, which continues to exist only because CCP wills it - they are under no obligation to reveal anything or discuss anything with you. Raging at them will only hamper the ability of the CSM and CCP to actually get anything done

basically, i won't vote for you, and no one should vote for you. good day sir~


Well you have basically just said csm's are useless and hense nobody should waste their time voting?

CCP wants to improve their game, it makes business sense.

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2011.02.09 17:25:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Joe Phoenix
Well you have basically just said csm's are useless and hense nobody should waste their time voting?

CCP wants to improve their game, it makes business sense.


No, i just said that your particular (extreme) position is useless. There are moderate positions between being an spineless CCP fanboy and being a disagreeable douchebag.


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