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Vik Arden
Posted - 2011.02.08 13:56:00 - [1]
 

Is it possible to somehow remove the unwanted skills? When I first started playing I did not have a full understanding of the game. Therefore, the ability to take unnecessary, as it turned out later. Now they are very annoying. Are there really no way to get rid of them?

Thanks.

Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Spikes Chop Shop
Posted - 2011.02.08 13:59:00 - [2]
 

no way. just stop worrying and keep training.

Vik Arden
Posted - 2011.02.08 14:19:00 - [3]
 

I do not understand why not give the players such an option? I think many will agree with me!

XXSketchxx
Gallente
Remote Soviet Industries
Posted - 2011.02.08 14:20:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Vik Arden
I do not understand why not give the players such an option? I think many will agree with me!



Eve celebrates consequences, including the vanity ones [imperfect skill sheet].

Kuvaki
Posted - 2011.02.08 15:18:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Kuvaki on 08/02/2011 15:18:01
"other games hold your hand from lvl 1-infinity and makes sure everyone gets a cookie, EVE not only takes your cookie but laughs at you for bringing one."

meaning in eve you make a mistake in your training no matter how much time it wasted or how ugly it looks on you skill sheet, your stuck with it until the end of your eve life, however long or short that may be. (already asked if theres a way to reset my full sp and all skills and id be willing to repay for all the skill books, they told me very politly to buzz off)

laksmi2
Posted - 2011.02.08 15:21:00 - [6]
 

i recently petitioned to have 900 sp in industry, mining and corp managment removed together with the skills because they look ugly on an otherwise pure combat char of 2003. they dont do it.

Miss Rabblt
Posted - 2011.02.08 15:21:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Vik Arden
Is it possible to somehow remove the unwanted skills? When I first started playing I did not have a full understanding of the game. Therefore, the ability to take unnecessary, as it turned out later. Now they are very annoying. Are there really no way to get rid of them?

Thanks.


what do you want to do with those "unwanted skills"? just remove? and what if you will find that you need it week after? or you want to transfer SPs from one skill to other? Very Happy

And after all: give me please one example of "really annoying skill". i only can imagine something like "repairing systems" which makes you less cap-stable but you need this skill for other skills and items.

Robbie Robot
Posted - 2011.02.08 17:23:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Vik Arden
I do not understand why not give the players such an option? I think many will agree with me!


I suggested the ability to respend skill points by paying CCP cash, instead of buying skill points with cash. Would you spend $15 to get 1M SP back?

BlackSparrowHawk
Posted - 2011.02.08 17:46:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: laksmi2
they look ugly on an otherwise pure combat char of 2003. they dont do it.


I don't get this xD More skills, means your toon can do more. Even if you have skills that you're not taking advantage of at the moment or even ever, at least you can tell people you can do it.
For example i'm mostly a combat character. However i have a small amount of sp dedicated to mining - enough to be able to use and fly a hulk well. Hulk is pretty much the most popular mining vessel ingame. Even though i won't mine that often, i can still be confident in telling others that i can fly a hulk.

Fibby Sunhawk
Amarr
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.02.08 22:41:00 - [10]
 

Self destruct your pod a few times and hope you get lucky.

Malkev
Posted - 2011.02.09 01:37:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Malkev on 09/02/2011 01:38:10
Originally by: Vik Arden
I do not understand why not give the players such an option? I think many will agree with me!


How would this, in any way, make the game better? Nobody can see your SP anyways.

I'd wear those misspent skill points with pride, rub them in peoples faces.

"You just got popped by a character with 375k SP in INDUSTRY SON!"

No transferring/removal/purchasing/redistribution of SP ever, not even for $$$.

Misanthra
Posted - 2011.02.09 02:44:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Misanthra on 09/02/2011 02:44:43
Originally by: Fibby Sunhawk
Self destruct your pod a few times and hope you get lucky.


Do in corp poddings with a corpie or alt if dual boxing...much faster. that 2 minutes adds too much time. Quite a few times when blood cloning I'd ask someone in local to pop the pod. Alliance member, hostile, hell neut it didn't matter. Just wanted to be moved now lol.


for targetted sp lost...fly t3 and lose it. Limits it down to only 5 skills lol. 1/5 better than 1 out of 200 Laughing


SP's are a permanent record, accept and move on (learning skills were a once in a lifetime deal). Skill might be useful one day, never know.

Lose the ocd...makes you do bad things in eve. Like learn pointless level 5's not worht the time put in them.

Vik Arden
Posted - 2011.02.09 08:34:00 - [13]
 

Perhaps the lack of opportunities to remove unnecessary skills makes sense. For example, if your account is stolen, an attacker can erase all the skills ...
Nothing else comes to mind, to justify the lack of disposal options abilities. While this may not be the main reason why that support will not be difficult to return everything.

PS. Sorry for my English.

Sader Rykane
Amarr
The Dark Space Initiative
Revival Of The Talocan Empire
Posted - 2011.02.09 19:59:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: laksmi2
i recently petitioned to have 900 sp in industry, mining and corp managment removed together with the skills because they look ugly on an otherwise pure combat char of 2003. they dont do it.


The mistakes we make =(

Super Failure
Posted - 2011.02.09 22:02:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: laksmi2
i recently petitioned to have 900 sp in industry, mining and corp managment removed together with the skills because they look ugly on an otherwise pure combat char of 2003. they dont do it.


The mistakes we make =(

At least you didn't have the indy skill to V too.

BlackSparrowHawk
Posted - 2011.02.10 01:04:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Super Failure
Originally by: Sader Rykane
Originally by: laksmi2
i recently petitioned to have 900 sp in industry, mining and corp managment removed together with the skills because they look ugly on an otherwise pure combat char of 2003. they dont do it.
The mistakes we make =(
At least you didn't have the indy skill to V too.
I think thats what Sader is on about. Having max lvl V on Amar combat skills and having 7sp (1%) on Indy.... OH NOES! 1% :P

Aderata Nonkin
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.11 14:34:00 - [17]
 

Contrary to other games, stupidity is not rewarded. The next time you decide to level up a skill you should think long and hard. Shouldn't be difficult.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.02.11 14:37:00 - [18]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 11/02/2011 14:36:56
Originally by: Aderata Nonkin
Contrary to other games, stupidity is not rewarded. The next time you decide to level up a skill you should think long and hard. Shouldn't be difficult.
…on the other hand, unless you go for V, the time "lost" will be minimal yet still give you plenty of opportunity to think that, hey, maybe this isn't a skill I'll actually ever use.

Jayhawk Hunter
Posted - 2011.02.11 21:28:00 - [19]
 

I just started playing and have a long term skill plan for a highly focused single race PvP character.

It does seem odd that i have been given 1415 SP in mining (lvl 2) that i dont want or need and never will.

It would be nice to be able to customize the skills at creation, in my case removing the unwanted industry skills.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.12 06:45:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Misanthra

Lose the ocd...makes you do bad things in eve. Like learn pointless level 5's not worht the time put in them.

I am like that. :) In the fulness of time I'll OCD myself into training FoF missiles V on an otherwise perfect missile sheet, simply because at some godforsaken time I thought FoF missiles were cool. And I have done so for other sections of my skill sheet, too.

Rick Chieve
Posted - 2011.02.15 17:16:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Rick Chieve on 15/02/2011 17:16:40
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Misanthra

Lose the ocd...makes you do bad things in eve. Like learn pointless level 5's not worht the time put in them.

I am like that. :) In the fulness of time I'll OCD myself into training FoF missiles V on an otherwise perfect missile sheet, simply because at some godforsaken time I thought FoF missiles were cool. And I have done so for other sections of my skill sheet, too.


FoF, when you don't give a **** who you're shooting at. Cool

hellsknights
Element 115.
Posted - 2011.02.16 14:38:00 - [22]
 

Complain,complain.....Kids now and days, back in my day you had to train learning skills, yes learning skills.

Now its a freebie, can i remove skills how about if you actually had to train them....

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

msu320
Posted - 2011.02.16 17:18:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: hellsknights
Complain,complain.....Kids now and days, back in my day you had to train learning skills, yes learning skills. Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


A little offtopic, but playing since beta I've always thought it asinine to of had to train those, without a skill que... 3am alarm clocks no more!

But on an ON-TOPIC matter- I'm thinking having more skills on the sheet may help divert PODDING SP losses from skills you care about.

captain skinback
Posted - 2011.02.17 00:24:00 - [24]
 

id like a respec but in the long run its probably not a very good idea. everyone would just swap their skills to the flavour of the month and capital ships

freshspree
Caldari
Dissonance Corp
Posted - 2011.02.17 03:01:00 - [25]
 

Too bad m8, I trained indy to 5 and got into a retriever before i knew what was up. I grew smarter as the days passed by and didn't make that mistake during the sp reallocation thingy.

Some dude was raging on the forums a while ago after he poured about 4 mil sp into command ships and HACs only to find out that t3s fair better than both in some cases. CCP enjoyed every drop of tear he shed Razz I bet they did.




Belfelmalak
Posted - 2011.02.17 06:37:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Kuvaki
Edited by: Kuvaki on 08/02/2011 15:18:01
"other games hold your hand from lvl 1-infinity and makes sure everyone gets a cookie, EVE not only takes your cookie but laughs at you for bringing one."



ROFLMAO!!!Very HappyLaughingRazz

Fair notice, I'm stealing this for my Bio.......Cool

Ma'Kahn
Posted - 2011.02.17 11:59:00 - [27]
 

Why would you want to remove them? There'd be no benefit. Maybe at some point in time they'll come in handy and you'd regret having deleted them if that were possible.

IsTheOpOver
Posted - 2011.02.17 12:42:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Ma'Kahn
Why would you want to remove them? There'd be no benefit. Maybe at some point in time they'll come in handy and you'd regret having deleted them if that were possible.


Cheaper clones?

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.02.17 17:41:00 - [29]
 

I only have 2 skills of which I'll never use on this char, Mining and Industry. Both are at level 1 and both came with the char when I created it. ugh

Xai Rayna
Posted - 2011.02.17 18:27:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: IsTheOpOver
Originally by: Ma'Kahn
Why would you want to remove them? There'd be no benefit. Maybe at some point in time they'll come in handy and you'd regret having deleted them if that were possible.


Cheaper clones?


Doubtful, given that the disparity between the higher clone levels is many millions, you wouldn't really get a cheaper clone unless you had millions of SP in unnecessary skills. That being said, I think the only real unnecessary skills come from the older characters which were given arbitrary skills to start with, some of which do not apply to their career path.


 

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