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Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
Posted - 2011.02.05 01:59:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:02:16
Why so many threads with negative feedback being locked?

Increasingly with each day it seems CCP is on the war path of public relations trying to shutdown any revelation of the *fact* that they aren't spending much time developing EveOnline anymore.

Closing threads like this really doesn't give me confidence, seems like damage control, seems to give more credance to the suggestion that CCP considers Eve to be finished.

Please reassure me, with the signals being sent by CCP it seems you're deciding to move onto other things and leave Eve to slowly die in your wake.

This style of forum moderation seems a bit like The Wizard of Oz, don't pay attention to the guy behind the curtain, all our customers are happy.


edit: Yes that is a lot of "seems".... With CCP spending so much time hiding what they're doing, seems is all that is left for us.

Selinate
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:01:00 - [2]
 

They lock threads from people who ***** and moan, not legitimate threads with valid complaints, unless there are already 50 threads on the topic.

No, if you want to see that kind of censorship, there are other MMO's where if you even breath a bad word about their game on their forums, your thread mysteriously disappears and your account gets banned. CCP is nowhere near this bad.

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:04:00 - [3]
 

Not liking the fact that CCP has taken a 2 year holiday from Eve is not a valid criticism?

Suggesting they dedicate themselves to excellence in the product that got them where they are today is somehow wrong?

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:05:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Increasingly with each day it seems CCP is on the war path of public relations trying to shutdown any revelation of the *fact* that they aren't spending much time developing EveOnline anymore.


Please cite a source for your fact. I prefer something from their earnings report or taxes where they break down the number of hours and assign it to each project. What's that? You don't have that information? Then you don't know that they aren't working on Eve.

-Liang

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:06:00 - [5]
 

…also, they are often closed because there are already official threads on the topic where that negative feedback might actually do some good.

Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:08:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Not liking the fact that CCP has taken a 2 year holiday from Eve is not a valid criticism?



To actually believe that, you must be living under a very big rock with some rather large amounts of tin-foil hat-age.

Or you just don't log in anymore and get all your info from Kugu.

Either way, I give this troll a 0/10, needs much more polish.

Dr BattleSmith
PAX Interstellar Services
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:09:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:17:17
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:15:50
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:13:06
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:12:01
Originally by: Liang Nuren

Please cite a source for your fact.


http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_02_2010.pdf (maybe wrong one, u look it up)
http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_23-25_06_2010.pdf this one...
bah not the one either, they said it not me.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777

Calathea Sata
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:11:00 - [8]
 

CCP is desperate; let's hope they know what they are doing.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:12:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Originally by: Liang Nuren
Please cite a source for your fact.
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777
Yes. 124 people working on EVE certainly qualifies as "taking a 2 year holiday". Rolling Eyes

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:12:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Breaker77 on 05/02/2011 02:13:26
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Originally by: Liang Nuren

Please cite a source for your fact.


http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777



So EVE gets 92 devs and everything else gets 32.

Yes, CCP doesn't care about EVE Rolling Eyes

edit: Before you say Incarna isn't EVE development, well yes it is since it takes place in the same EVE universe we enjoy now.




Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:23:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Liang Nuren on 05/02/2011 05:16:13
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:12:01
Originally by: Liang Nuren

Please cite a source for your fact.


http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_02_2010.pdf

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777



OMG Rawr 18 Months
- Contracts Beta
- PI Improvements
- Incursions
- The Character Creator
- Many, many bugfixes
- Balance changes
- ****ing enormous lag improvements
- New Neocon (Not deployed yet, but functional enough to show us that they do in fact have it)
- Learning Skill Removal
- Major Downtime improvements
- 64 bit API
- New Shortcuts
- UI underpinnings revamped
- 2000 people in Jita
- Movable plex
- New Ships
- New Data Cluster

Just a short list with a couple minutes research showing just how much CCP hates Eve and doesn't care if it succeeds or fails. Totally ignoring it, and taking a 2 year vacation. Rolling Eyes

-Liang

Ed: And yes, those are all changes to internet ****ing spaceships. And that's just so far.

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:32:00 - [12]
 

No, they're just doing what typical forum moderation entails.

Don't have a bagillion threads on the same topic.
Don't let people just crap all over the forums because their panties are twisted for whatever reason.
Don't let the boards fill up with threads like these.

You have the privilege of having some of the most relaxed forum moderators on any MMO forum out there. Trust me, most of the **** that gets posted here would not fly on 90% of the other games out there.

Can I haz ur stuffz?

Wurzel Gummidge
Posted - 2011.02.05 02:33:00 - [13]
 

IBTL

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.02.05 03:12:00 - [14]
 

Ironically, this thread will also get locked. And rightly so.

Dr Decay
Posted - 2011.02.05 03:58:00 - [15]
 

...and yet you're still here. Obviously they are doing something right. ROFL. Laughing

Infinity Ziona
Minmatar
Cloakers
Posted - 2011.02.05 04:06:00 - [16]
 

I heard a rumour that EvE population has been dropping for quite some time and the online count is being buffered.

Not sure if its true but you can google it. One thing I have noticed is the forums are quite slow these days, like theres not as many people participating on forums as there used to be.

Could be wrong.

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.02.05 04:20:00 - [17]
 

I'd have to disagree. They allowed my thread about the subject to continue unmolested.

Instead of demanding answers you should probably just try and discuss it in a calm and somewhat rational manner. They aren't going to announce any new information in some random persons thread, anyway. We'll have to wait for fanfest or a devblog.

Fix Lag
Posted - 2011.02.05 05:21:00 - [18]
 

Of the three major changes in the last 18 months that Liang listed (PI, character creator, and Incursions) only Incursions deals with my internet spaceships. And it's a PvE update to a PvP game, so I'm really not interested in it.

Now, if we go back *24* months, we have Dominion. I won't even extend the courtesy to CCP of calling Dominion an expansion, because it wasn't. It was a disaster.

Varcaus
Posted - 2011.02.05 05:23:00 - [19]
 

Or there is less to complain about/ everyone is talkin on their Corp/allinace forums instead

A Little Girl
Posted - 2011.02.05 06:51:00 - [20]
 

Discussion of moderation is not allowed on the forum. If you have an issue with forum moderation please file a petition. Thread locked.

*snaps fingers*

Locked I tell you!


*clicks heels*

Why isn't this locked yet?


I cast *summon moderator*

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.02.05 07:44:00 - [21]
 

IBTL

DJ Obsidian
RONA Legion
Posted - 2011.02.05 07:47:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren


OMG Rawr 18 Months
- Contracts Beta
- PI Improvements
- Incursions
- The Character Creator
- Many, many bugfixes
- Balance changes
- ****ing enormous lag improvements
- New Neocon (Not deployed yet, but functional enough to show us that they do in fact have it)
- Learning Skill Removal
- Major Downtime improvements
- 64 bit API
- New Shortcuts
- UI underpinnings revamped
- 2000 people in Jita
- Movable plex
- New Ships
- New Data Cluster

Just a short list with a couple minutes research showing just how much CCP hates Eve and doesn't care if it succeeds or fails. Totally ignoring it, and taking a 2 year vacation. Rolling Eyes

-Liang

Ed: And yes, those are all changes to internet ****ing spaceships. And that's just so far.



Well the new neocom is on hold until improvements are made but to add onto the list.
Discussion with CCP about nodes and bugs they found.

Read that, sorry for the partial cross posting but im trying to make a point that ccp you are working on the game really hard and that whiners deserve to have their threads locked.

IBTL

Swynet
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.05 08:47:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Liang Nuren
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Originally by: Liang Nuren

Please cite a source for your fact.


http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_02_2010.pdf

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777



OMG Rawr 18 Months
- Contracts Beta
- PI Improvements
- Incursions
- The Character Creator
- Many, many bugfixes
- Balance changes
- ****ing enormous lag improvements
- New Neocon (Not deployed yet, but functional enough to show us that they do in fact have it)
- Learning Skill Removal
- Major Downtime improvements
- 64 bit API
- New Shortcuts
- UI underpinnings revamped
- 2000 people in Jita
- Movable plex
- New Ships
- New Data Cluster

Just a short list with a couple minutes research showing just how much CCP hates Eve and doesn't care if it succeeds or fails. Totally ignoring it, and taking a 2 year vacation. Rolling Eyes

-Liang

Ed: And yes, those are all changes to internet ****ing spaceships. And that's just so far.


Well blasters or Hybrids threads are not closed, but they get no answer.

For the job donne in the last 18months i think that about 5min would be enough to say something like :"stfu and train something else."
Or: "we are looking at the problem and try to find the solution"

It took me less than 15sec to do it but i will not ask them to be so skilled Laughing

Dr Sheepbringer
Gallente
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears
Posted - 2011.02.05 09:20:00 - [24]
 

Lol. Two year vacation... That just proves you are a troll. Also when it comes to people it doesn't always mean that more is good. Small groups are usually more effective. Specially when most of the content is done (sounds, graphics). Also the other teams at CCP also contribute to the overall knowledge. So just because not everyone is directly working on eve they still help it. Also sometimes you get those heureka moments when you are doing something else.

CCP doesn't lock threads just "because". Mostly all the locked ones had good reasons to be locked.

PTang
Posted - 2011.02.05 09:55:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: PTang on 05/02/2011 09:57:00
Edited by: PTang on 05/02/2011 09:56:49
Originally by: Dr BattleSmith
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:17:17
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:15:50
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:13:06
Edited by: Dr BattleSmith on 05/02/2011 02:12:01
Originally by: Liang Nuren

Please cite a source for your fact.


http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_18-20_02_2010.pdf (maybe wrong one, u look it up)
http://www.eveonline.com/council/transcripts/2010/CSM_CCP_Meetings_23-25_06_2010.pdf this one...
bah not the one either, they said it not me.

http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=777




when i joined eve they only had 20 devs tops.



also people, he isn't talking about the past 18 months, he's talking about the future 18 months. Which is now down to 12.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.02.05 11:01:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: PTang
also people, he isn't talking about the past 18 months, he's talking about the future 18 months. Which is now down to 12.


I invite you to go look at that list of features, bug fixes, and enhancements I posted earlier. I was pretty careful to only list the things that they've done for internet spaceships since "18 months" rage. Also, we as players said "DON'T DO ANYTHING BUT FIX LAG" -- and wouldn't you know it but they're doing a damn fine job of it.

-Liang

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C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.05 11:02:00 - [27]
 

Unfortunately this thread will be locked as it openly discusses moderation on the forums which is not permitted.

As far as EVE slowly dying or being finished, I can assure you that EVE is our highest priority and work will continue to make it even better Smile


 

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