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BrysonBennington
Posted - 2011.02.03 10:45:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: BrysonBennington on 03/02/2011 10:46:06
Why does WoW have fancy mice designed around their game use and EvE Online does not.

Why does CCP not offer a programmable mouse that can be used to locked onto a target with a mouse click or to open a cargo can with another function?

Quite deplorable if you ask me.

WoW Mouse

Galenea Moreau
Galactic Operations
Posted - 2011.02.03 10:58:00 - [2]
 

Because EvE has players who can configure a programable gaming mouse

Unlike WoW

Jokerface666
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.03 11:00:00 - [3]
 

Becouse EVE Player are able to reconfigure a mous how they want it.... ^^

/emote thinks he is going to get the same answer from everybody...

Xearal
Minmatar
SOL Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.03 11:14:00 - [4]
 

Because EvE players generally have something that WoW players don't. A Brain.

Kara Sharalien
Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
Posted - 2011.02.03 11:50:00 - [5]
 

Because Eve players prefer to use good mice, and arent conned into buying terrible input devices just because they have a wow logo on them.

This thread now compares your mice to your wow-playing friends mice.

I use a R.A.T.7 as my main mouse and a G9 as my laptop mouse.

My wow playing friend uses a razer naga and the hp trackpad(urgh!), respectively.

AFK Master
AFK Chartered System Management
Posted - 2011.02.03 11:57:00 - [6]
 

Why would I need a ridiculous mouse, when I have a G19 keyboard?

wiersma
Caldari
Dark Matter Systems
Posted - 2011.02.03 12:18:00 - [7]
 

what is WOW ? Confused

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.03 13:24:00 - [8]
 

Is it wrong that I use a standard two button + scroll wheel mouse and a regular 110 key keyboard to play Eve?

Does it help at all that my mouse is red?

Woodman2
Posted - 2011.02.03 13:29:00 - [9]
 

Why do so many people bring up WOW, this isn't WOW, this isn't made by the same guys that made WOW. If you like wow so much, go play it.

Dzrdya
Amarr
Evil Holdings
Posted - 2011.02.03 14:14:00 - [10]
 

Because Eve Online players dont need help wiping thier asses.

Theys is all grown up.

Unlike WoW players...

Root'er
NeoCorteX Industry
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.02.03 15:40:00 - [11]
 

well.. i would like to have a mouse with eve design,even pay a few extra buck for it, but only if it'll be comfortable and such
for the functions - new shortcut system is really good

NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.02.03 15:54:00 - [12]
 

Totaly different gaming concept. to have 'do all' mouse in eve would require more buttons then is on your keyboard...Eve is more complex and therefore requires a smarter player....I'll try to explain so you meger WoW players can understand.

What you would hear, if you where listening in on vent or TS:

PVP Planning in WoW: "Hey guys, lets meet in Ulduar and form a group to go raid someone."

PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"

get the point?

Sakaras Lane
Posted - 2011.02.04 02:10:00 - [13]
 

Let’s look at this from a business stand point not a ****ing contest. The “active” player base in WoW is much larger then that of EvE online, you can not compare the two games on any feature other then they are both a pay to play. From a marketing and IP standpoint eve is a great game but its complex key binds and lack disposable player base do not warrant a company contracting with CCP to make a mouse specifically for EvE, the market share is simply just not there. You market moguls in eve would not waste your valuable time and resources creating a product that will not be purchased, and net a sizable return, and that is the bottom line.

Zombie Jeebus
Amarr
Alt Holdings llc
Posted - 2011.02.04 05:39:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: NinjaSpud
Totaly different gaming concept. to have 'do all' mouse in eve would require more buttons then is on your keyboard...Eve is more complex and therefore requires a smarter player....I'll try to explain so you meger WoW players can understand.

What you would hear, if you where listening in on vent or TS:

PVP Planning in WoW: "Hey guys, lets meet in Ulduar and form a group to go raid someone."

PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"

get the point?


You, sir win this thread Very Happy

On a side note.. the OP doesn't really have much to do with comparing Eve to Wow.. just marketing methods. CCP already have ship models, tshirt, and various other things to market to their players.. they are just smart enough to avoid poorly designed over priced cheap(quality) crap that their player base wouldn't buy in the first place.

Jokerface666
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.04 11:03:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: NinjaSpud
Totaly different gaming concept. to have 'do all' mouse in eve would require more buttons then is on your keyboard...Eve is more complex and therefore requires a smarter player....I'll try to explain so you meger WoW players can understand.

What you would hear, if you where listening in on vent or TS:

PVP Planning in WoW: "Hey guys, lets meet in Ulduar and form a group to go raid someone."

PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"

get the point?


This my friend is EPIC!

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.02.04 11:33:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: BrysonBennington
Why does CCP not offer a programmable mouse that can be used to locked onto a target with a mouse click or to open a cargo can with another function?


Well, we do have Alienware keyboards that light up different colours when we're warp scrammed. Rolling Eyes

Why not have a mouse that lights up different colours when we're playing different characters ingame? Because after all, the game is all about the shinies. Isn't it?

Jokerface666
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.04 11:47:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: BrysonBennington
Why does CCP not offer a programmable mouse that can be used to locked onto a target with a mouse click or to open a cargo can with another function?


Well, we do have Alienware keyboards that light up different colours when we're warp scrammed. Rolling Eyes

Why not have a mouse that lights up different colours when we're playing different characters ingame? Because after all, the game is all about the shinies. Isn't it?



I thought it's all about ISK and Killmails... o_O

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.02.04 11:48:00 - [18]
 

"caldari style" mouse

Seriously though, with 300k accounts, what size do you expect the market for this to be?

Jokerface666
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.04 11:53:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Glyken Touchon
"caldari style" mouse

Seriously though, with 300k accounts, what size do you expect the market for this to be?


Paint it grey and call it drake...

I Love Boobies
Amarr
All Hail Boobies
Posted - 2011.02.04 13:45:00 - [20]
 

Reason why Eve doesn't have a crappy mouse like that is because Eve isn't as profit driven as Blizzard is. Sure, CCP wants profits, any well functioning company does, but if they were worried about making tons of money just because they can, they would charge for their expansions and so on. Plus, I believe CCP could do these products if they elected to and be as successful with it, they just elect not to.

Ingvar Angst
Amarr
Nasty Pope Holding Corp
Talocan United
Posted - 2011.02.04 15:42:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: NinjaSpud
Totaly different gaming concept. to have 'do all' mouse in eve would require more buttons then is on your keyboard...Eve is more complex and therefore requires a smarter player....I'll try to explain so you meger WoW players can understand.

What you would hear, if you where listening in on vent or TS:

PVP Planning in WoW: "Hey guys, lets meet in Ulduar and form a group to go raid someone."

PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"

get the point?


You forgot the part that everyone has to watch the videos on how to do the raid if they already haven't done it.

Very important.

NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.02.04 15:58:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Ingvar Angst

You forgot the part that everyone has to watch the videos on how to do the raid if they already haven't done it.

Very important.


are those anything like the training video you watch when you start your first kitchen job (anyone seen Waiting)
...It's not pretty

Scorpyn
Caldari
Infinitus Odium
Posted - 2011.02.04 16:39:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Sakaras Lane
Let’s look at this from a business stand point not a ****ing contest. The “active” player base in WoW is much larger then that of EvE online, you can not compare the two games on any feature other then they are both a pay to play. From a marketing and IP standpoint eve is a great game but its complex key binds and lack disposable player base do not warrant a company contracting with CCP to make a mouse specifically for EvE, the market share is simply just not there. You market moguls in eve would not waste your valuable time and resources creating a product that will not be purchased, and net a sizable return, and that is the bottom line.

This.

TLDR : The size of the EVE playerbase is much smaller than the size of world of warcraft playerbase.

Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
Posted - 2011.02.04 16:40:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Zombie Jeebus
Originally by: NinjaSpud
Totaly different gaming concept. to have 'do all' mouse in eve would require more buttons then is on your keyboard...Eve is more complex and therefore requires a smarter player....I'll try to explain so you meger WoW players can understand.

What you would hear, if you where listening in on vent or TS:

PVP Planning in WoW: "Hey guys, lets meet in Ulduar and form a group to go raid someone."

PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"

get the point?


You, sir win this thread Very Happy

On a side note.. the OP doesn't really have much to do with comparing Eve to Wow.. just marketing methods. CCP already have ship models, tshirt, and various other things to market to their players.. they are just smart enough to avoid poorly designed over priced cheap(quality) crap that their player base wouldn't buy in the first place.


This thread? I say he wins the forums!

Zephris
Posted - 2011.02.04 18:00:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Zephris on 04/02/2011 18:04:08
Edited by: Zephris on 04/02/2011 18:02:41
TBH, a eve ship will not have more than six distinct type of active model by any reasonable estimate.
Wow combat is a more complex as far as player interaction is concerned.

Could some of you play the game before you bash it.
And what sort of "feature" or "idea" is this thread discussing exactly ?

Quote:
PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"


Isn't PVP "Planning" in eve sitting on top of a gate/station for six hours ?

Quote:
Let’s look at this from a business stand point not a ****ing contest. The “active” player base in WoW is much larger then that of EvE online, you can not compare the two games on any feature other then they are both a pay to play. From a marketing and IP standpoint eve is a great game but its complex key binds and lack disposable player base do not warrant a company contracting with CCP to make a mouse specifically for EvE, the market share is simply just not there. You market moguls in eve would not waste your valuable time and resources creating a product that will not be purchased, and net a sizable return, and that is the bottom line.


QFT, but there are some very dedicated eve players with many accounts. the question is if there are enough of them for a mouse to be profitable.

Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
Posted - 2011.02.04 18:59:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Zephris
Edited by: Zephris on 04/02/2011 18:04:08
Edited by: Zephris on 04/02/2011 18:02:41
TBH, a eve ship will not have more than six distinct type of active model by any reasonable estimate. Wow combat is a more complex as far as player interaction is concerned.
Could some of you play the game before you bash it.
And what sort of "feature" or "idea" is this thread discussing exactly ?


It's in the title sir. It has just been derailed. Read the topic in which you click

Originally by: Zephris

Quote:
PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"


Isn't PVP "Planning" in eve sitting on top of a gate/station for six hours ?


No, that is just a fail gate camp. There may be a couple other types of PVP combat besides gate camping...

Originally by: Zephris

Quote:
Let’s look at this from a business stand point not a ****ing contest. The “active” player base in WoW is much larger then that of EvE online, you can not compare the two games on any feature other then they are both a pay to play. From a marketing and IP standpoint eve is a great game but its complex key binds and lack disposable player base do not warrant a company contracting with CCP to make a mouse specifically for EvE, the market share is simply just not there. You market moguls in eve would not waste your valuable time and resources creating a product that will not be purchased, and net a sizable return, and that is the bottom line.


QFT, but there are some very dedicated eve players with many accounts. the question is if there are enough of them for a mouse to be profitable.


Back on topic. Good show.
I don't think there would be enough interest for a mouse. Also, it's not needed. The lag monster obsoletes quicker clicking Wink

Eponema Shazih
Posted - 2011.02.04 19:04:00 - [27]
 

I want an EVE mouse Navy Issue.

NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.02.07 22:45:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Corporal Punishment08
Originally by: Zombie Jeebus
Originally by: NinjaSpud
Totaly different gaming concept. to have 'do all' mouse in eve would require more buttons then is on your keyboard...Eve is more complex and therefore requires a smarter player....I'll try to explain so you meger WoW players can understand.

What you would hear, if you where listening in on vent or TS:

PVP Planning in WoW: "Hey guys, lets meet in Ulduar and form a group to go raid someone."

PVP Planning in Eve: "Intel reports that the enemy is using heavy shield tanking fleet. Drakes, load your EM HAMS, the amarr pilots will lead the strike, logi make sure you fit heavy armor reps. Is the cyno jammer down yet, can we jump in our carriers? Fleet support get on that outbound gate and throw up a bubble, I wanna try to catch them as they run, be perpared to warp in to assist where needed. SB's stay cloaked until...WHAT...no I'm busy Mom...i'm on teamspeak....I'll take out the trash later."..." Dread pilots standby, after the fight we're jumping you in to knock out a POS"

get the point?


You, sir win this thread Very Happy

On a side note.. the OP doesn't really have much to do with comparing Eve to Wow.. just marketing methods. CCP already have ship models, tshirt, and various other things to market to their players.. they are just smart enough to avoid poorly designed over priced cheap(quality) crap that their player base wouldn't buy in the first place.


This thread? I say he wins the forums!


Pointless topic
buuuutttt....

One last bump for my gloating SmileVery HappyCoolRazzWinkughYARRRR!!SmileSmile

I WIN I WIN YAY...GIVE ME ISK

Boonaki
Caldari
Focused Annihilation
Detrimental Imperative
Posted - 2011.02.07 23:31:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Galenea Moreau
Because EvE has players who can configure a programable gaming mouse

Unlike WoW


You won this thread.

NinjaSpud
Posted - 2011.02.07 23:32:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Boonaki
Originally by: Galenea Moreau
Because EvE has players who can configure a programable gaming mouse

Unlike WoW


You won this thread.



....ya had to take the victory away didn't u...Sad


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