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Razputon
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:22:00 - [1]
 

As a Canadian player I am staring down the possibility of metered internet. As such I am going to have to pay for everything over 15-25GB per month of bandwidth. As such I am going to have to watch my bandwidth usage or face a massive internet bill. So, does anyone know how much bandwidth Eve uses, say on a per hour basis?

A lot of us in Canada are trying to stop this from coming but a lot of ISP's are plunging ahead.

Mister Cletus
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:30:00 - [2]
 

I am really sorry, but no one has replied yet so I feel obligated.

Unfortunately, my reply will be of no use whatsoever and will serve to only bump your post back to the top.

If your question had been about DRONE bandwidth, I might have had something constructive to say.

Breaker77
Gallente
Reclamation Industries
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:35:00 - [3]
 

There are quite a few people who still use Dial up. 15 Gb should be more than enough to play EVE and watch all the pron you want.


Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:37:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Razputon
As a Canadian player I am staring down the possibility of metered internet. As such I am going to have to pay for everything over 15-25GB per month of bandwidth. As such I am going to have to watch my bandwidth usage or face a massive internet bill. So, does anyone know how much bandwidth Eve uses, say on a per hour basis?

A lot of us in Canada are trying to stop this from coming but a lot of ISP's are plunging ahead.


since most the stuff is on your system
the only data that is sent are couple KB/MBs


Razputon
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:40:00 - [5]
 

Dial-up, DSL, Cable, its all the same. They all come from the same companies and they all charge it the same way. It also sucks that I can now kiss Netflix, Steam or any similar service goodbye.

Razputon
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:43:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Bodrul

since most the stuff is on your system
the only data that is sent are couple KB/MBs




KB/s wouldn't be bad. Mb/sec, not so much. 1 MB/s would be 3Gb/hr.

Glyn Davish
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:45:00 - [7]
 

I hope it gets better for all of our northern bros.

I know you can track the bandwidth by hitting ctrl-alt-shift-m, or something close to that, unless that has changed recently.

Yosarian Manth
Caldari
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:46:00 - [8]
 

EVE will be a in the tens of kb/s, so don't worry about normal gameplay, just downloading updates.

You might want to try installing something like Netstat to monitor your bandwidth usage though.


Siigari Kitawa
Gallente
Perditus Peregrinus
Posted - 2011.02.02 02:47:00 - [9]
 

Eve uses less than a kilobyte every second. In large fleet engagements this can go as high as 20Kbps.

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.02.02 03:14:00 - [10]
 

Ctrl + Alt + Shift + M

That will open performance monitor (do not change any of the settings there... those settings are for debugging purposes only). In one of the tabs (think it was "Network" one) you'll see Kbytes in and Kbytes out statistics.

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2011.02.02 03:14:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Razputon
Dial-up, DSL, Cable, its all the same. They all come from the same companies and they all charge it the same way. It also sucks that I can now kiss Netflix, Steam or any similar service goodbye.


the idea got pretty well shot down in the states, I mean would Canada really go and do something that assbackwards? Confused

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.02.02 03:19:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Razputon
Dial-up, DSL, Cable, its all the same. They all come from the same companies and they all charge it the same way. It also sucks that I can now kiss Netflix, Steam or any similar service goodbye.


the idea got pretty well shot down in the states, I mean would Canada really go and do something that assbackwards? Confused
I wouldn´t count on it.
I bet they have lots of more surprises for you (& ultimately everybody else) in store with the current and future Net Neutrality bills.

Muna Kea
Posted - 2011.02.02 03:26:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Razputon
Dial-up, DSL, Cable, its all the same. They all come from the same companies and they all charge it the same way. It also sucks that I can now kiss Netflix, Steam or any similar service goodbye.


the idea got pretty well shot down in the states, I mean would Canada really go and do something that assbackwards? Confused


Not do. Did! Most depressing :(

From my ISP:

The Internet as we have grown to know it is about to change.
Usage based billing to take effect March 1,2011

Virtually all DSL Internet Service Providers (ISP's) in Ontario & Quebec
use a portion of Bell's network to connect their customers to the ISP's
network. A large portion of the fee you pay your ISP every month goes
towards paying Bell for the ISP to gain access to the copper wire
between the Bell central office and your home or business (the last
mile). Once connected to the ISP, customers can then be connected /
routed through the ISP's backbone connection(s) out to the internet.

Last year Bell Canada applied to the CRTC for permission to charge
an addition fee for data that travels over their network (even
though the ISP has already been paying for this portion of Bell's
network). The CRTC has approved this extra usage fee, and this fee
is set to take effect starting March 1/2010.

This Usage Based Billing (UBB) will affect all Internet subscribers
in Canada, no matter which ISP you subscribe to. We bring this to
your attention, because some of the fees could be substantial,
depending on how much data you use every month. Gone are the days
of unlimited or even high cap packages.

Ayx Shewma
Gallente
Posted - 2011.02.02 03:37:00 - [14]
 

A few days ago my internet was cut off because my payment had lapsed. They allow a tiny bit of bandwidth to use your online account to pay your bill though. This amount of bandwidth was enough that EVE would connect and play just fine. I actually didn't even realize it had happened until I opened the in-game browser and it redirected me to my ISPs website... Kinda funny.

Jessica Pink
Posted - 2011.02.02 03:44:00 - [15]
 

Well thats complete bull****

Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:06:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Chainsaw Plankton
Originally by: Razputon
Dial-up, DSL, Cable, its all the same. They all come from the same companies and they all charge it the same way. It also sucks that I can now kiss Netflix, Steam or any similar service goodbye.


the idea got pretty well shot down in the states, I mean would Canada really go and do something that assbackwards? Confused


Comcast in the US has a 250GB cap. It's a realistic limit for normal surfing/gaming (obviously not running BitTorrent 24x7).

Still not enough to stream one Netflix movie per day (Comcast is trying to steer customers towards their own VoD offerings).

OP: you might want to see if a "business" level account which allows more GB/month is available, just tell them you need it for telecommuting.

Ejit
Amarr
STD contractors
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:20:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Ejit on 02/02/2011 04:24:40
I did a test about three years ago. I downloaded a bandwidth monitor (can't remember it's name) Killed just about every process that used bandwidth. Then started from there.

I ran two clients, (on lowest settings) and a Teamspeak client (TS2 at the time, TS3 wasn't released)

I did the usual that I still do. Some science n industry, missioning....etc..etc.

Oh:... And I'm not talking about an hour or two every day. My test was typically between 12 and 16 hours a day.
And I was amazed to discover that even though I was running two clients simultaneously and a Teamspeak Client. I rarely went over 100mb's of downloaded and uploaded data a day.

In fact, the average, missioning, talking ****e on TS was around 58 Mb's a day.

Crazy numbers or what. But this doesn't take into account regional and ISP dependent figures .. Very Happy

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:20:00 - [18]
 

Wow, dang I got several Canadians in my corp. Hope this doesn't affect them adversely.

Yeah I'm worried about that Net Neutrality thing here in the states, I'm hoping Congress just cuts FCC funding in effect removing it :).


Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:34:00 - [19]
 

Ahhh I remember the days it would take days to download megabytes...


and yet people are so spoiled now they can't waddle over to the DVD rental machine at the same supermarket they are getting their junk food at. No they gotta download movies too.

Might as well attach toilets to our asses and pay immigrants to wipe for us - which we will send for via the internet.






Maimakterion
Posted - 2011.02.02 05:52:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Wow, dang I got several Canadians in my corp. Hope this doesn't affect them adversely.

Yeah I'm worried about that Net Neutrality thing here in the states, I'm hoping Congress just cuts FCC funding in effect removing it :).



Your post there contradicted itself multiple times and made zero sense.
Read up on the issue before you post anything about net neutrality: WIKIPEDIA Network Neutrality in the United States

Frito11
Invicta.
Posted - 2011.02.02 05:56:00 - [21]
 

i've never measured what eve takes bandwidth wise but i can tell you that i can reliably play eve on a 3G cell phone connection with my phone tethered to my PC if i have to, TS3 on the other hand will drop on me if there is too much talking going on. so that tells me eve takes next to no bandwidth to work. Smile

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.02.02 06:06:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Maimakterion
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Wow, dang I got several Canadians in my corp. Hope this doesn't affect them adversely.

Yeah I'm worried about that Net Neutrality thing here in the states, I'm hoping Congress just cuts FCC funding in effect removing it :).



Your post there contradicted itself multiple times and made zero sense.
Read up on the issue before you post anything about net neutrality: WIKIPEDIA Network Neutrality in the United States




Where I am always quick to bloviate and demonstrate my high intelligence and moral superirity on most topics, Net Neutrality is one of those topics that I just scratch my head over and ask to be spoken to about it as if I were 5 years old.

Of course in my experience, as far as the FCC is concerned, anything the US government touches turns to crap so I pretty much know where I would go on the issue if I knew more about it.


Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2011.02.02 06:21:00 - [23]
 

network traffic in EVE depends entirely on what you do, if you stand still on empty grid it will be less than 0.1KB/s

new xero generic 3d plastic avatars mean every jump = downloading whole local avatar list from server.


Btw lol at the state of internet in America. Here in Europe Im getting unmetered 120/10 Mbit for <$50. 20/2 is $20. Can saturate both directions any time of the day (seeding torrents right now). No filters, no caps, no nanny internet censorship.

Mystic5hadow
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
Posted - 2011.02.02 06:26:00 - [24]
 

I'd like to point out that EVERY major ISP in Canada has and will always meter Data Usage/Bandwidth.

The only people this is affecting are those using small Independent ISP's that offered Unlimited Bandwidth, but in turn choked up the large ISP's tubes because the small ISP's rent their bandwidth from the big ISP's.

So really, this isn't affecting many people. However, ISP's (Big and Small alike) might start buckling down on those who go over their bandwidth. As before, you could go over and normally they wouldn't bill you for it. Though now if this bill passes, they will be required to bill you. Which does indeed suck, but most people typically don't exceed their set bandwidth limits anyways.

So the situation isn't quite as dire as people make it out to be. Though I personally hope that metering does not become mandatory, as I download 500 Gigs+ of junk every month, easily.

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 06:32:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Originally by: Maimakterion
Originally by: Mecinia Lua
Wow, dang I got several Canadians in my corp. Hope this doesn't affect them adversely.

Yeah I'm worried about that Net Neutrality thing here in the states, I'm hoping Congress just cuts FCC funding in effect removing it :).



Your post there contradicted itself multiple times and made zero sense.
Read up on the issue before you post anything about net neutrality: WIKIPEDIA Network Neutrality in the United States




Where I am always quick to bloviate and demonstrate my high intelligence and moral superirity on most topics, Net Neutrality is one of those topics that I just scratch my head over and ask to be spoken to about it as if I were 5 years old.

Of course in my experience, as far as the FCC is concerned, anything the US government touches turns to crap so I pretty much know where I would go on the issue if I knew more about it.




It is the reason Internet service in the United States lags behind Europe, and quality as well. Lack of competitive pricing means no incentive to upgrade and replace systems.

Tub Chil
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:14:00 - [26]
 

Go to google
search NetLimiter
find freeware version (or buy PRO)
Install, reboot PC, start netlimiter right-click on eve process select stats

Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.02 18:16:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
(snip)
anything the US government touches turns to crap
(snip)


QFT.

Shandir
Minmatar
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.02.02 18:34:00 - [28]
 

Having found myself with a similarly crappy connection, I now know that EVE uses 30-50mb per hour(this will be per client), including small scale combat and travelling through Hek a few times.
If they release any major patches (like Incursion, for example, was about 5gb) your internet will die. Don't use Sisi, either, too many patches.

But EVE itself is fine.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.02.02 18:46:00 - [29]
 

Eve runs with dial-up if needed (although I guess the new portraits would use some more bandwidth), and a 56 kbaud dial-up connection has a theoretical max of about 15 Gb per month (assuming compression is disabled, and that you actually get a 56 kbaud connection running at max capacity 24/7).

So, yes, you'll make it.

Wurzel Gummidge
Posted - 2011.02.02 18:53:00 - [30]
 

You can run EVE with a few hundred megs a month generally, as mentioned above, not counting updates. I just hope the post about animated avatars never gets to see the light of day or we'll see a big hike in bandwidth being consumed by those things.


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