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Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:23:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Flybiere
A ship that can Jam a stargate in 0.0

Please don't hurt me.


As long as it was a capital ship I wouldn't have a problem with the concept. Though in effect I could see various Kingdoms using them to cut access off to their space. I'd assume there would be a hefty cost in fuel though, so if you balance that might work okay.

"Alright boys Bob's on the gate, nothing can come through"

Herzog Wolfhammer
Gallente
Sigma Special Tactics Group
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:29:00 - [32]
 

Love the T2 Destroyer idea for killing bombers....


what I would love to see, and many have begged for, is an Exploration ship. It's time SOE started to award faction exploration ships. Yeah I know you can fit a T3 cruiser for scanning but why do all roads have to lead to T3?

Right now we are using mainly combat ships for science, yet there are mining ships for mining, freighters for hauling, stealth ships for sneaking around, battle ships for battling - you get the picture. So why not exploration ships for exploring?


Beautiful Market Checker
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:51:00 - [33]
 

We need a dedicated scamming ship.

Let's say you sail this ship, called the Scammathron for instance, in Jita outside 4-4. You activate your scamming module (high-slot) which has a percentage change of scamming the victim, based on your skill for the ship and the module.

Sounds good, yes?

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 04:56:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Herzog Wolfhammer
Love the T2 Destroyer idea for killing bombers....


what I would love to see, and many have begged for, is an Exploration ship. It's time SOE started to award faction exploration ships. Yeah I know you can fit a T3 cruiser for scanning but why do all roads have to lead to T3?

Right now we are using mainly combat ships for science, yet there are mining ships for mining, freighters for hauling, stealth ships for sneaking around, battle ships for battling - you get the picture. So why not exploration ships for exploring?




I like the idea of the anti bomber ship. It would fit in with the anti drone/anti fighter concept, just be a different model in the same category. Basically a Picket Ship.

Is your exploration ship idea kinda like my Science Ship, or are you meaning something like the astrometrics frigates just larger :). Just curious.

Copine Callmeknau
Kangaroos With Frickin Lazerbeams
The KWFL Republic
Posted - 2011.02.02 05:12:00 - [35]
 

I'd like a class of ships with minimal offensive capabilities, but with a bonus to remote ECCM and remote sensor booster.
Like an anti-EW logistics.

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 06:40:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
I'd like a class of ships with minimal offensive capabilities, but with a bonus to remote ECCM and remote sensor booster.
Like an anti-EW logistics.


Those are good ideas too :), always kinda wanted those to. Electronic Superiority Ships (to counter the Electronic Warfare ones)

Idicious Lightbane
Percussive Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.02.02 06:56:00 - [37]
 

I'd rather they re-vamp the ships that go unused for the most part (thinking of mainly bunch of t1 frigates and cruisers) Give the tier 1 BC's a different role as tier 2, not just inferior.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:30:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Idicious Lightbane
I'd rather they re-vamp the ships that go unused for the most part (thinking of mainly bunch of t1 frigates and cruisers) Give the tier 1 BC's a different role as tier 2, not just inferior.
/this

There are plenty of 'forgotten' ships in the t1 lineup to more than fill the roles players are asking for if ccp would just put a couple of competant devs on it. I mean how hard can it be? All that needs to be done is tweak the stats a bit and not go through the labor intensive process of building a new ship from scratch. God knows there are enough threads over the years to provide plenty of intellectual stimulus in this direction. Sad

Arushia
Nova Labs
New Eden Research.
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:40:00 - [39]
 

Khanid Torp Marauder

Creodron Drone Marauder

Caldari Rail Marauder

Whatever for Minmatar, I don't fly them.

Rafael Freeman
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:44:00 - [40]
 

A ship that can dock into a ship that can dock into a ship that can dock into a ship that can dock into a ship that can dock into a ship.

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:48:00 - [41]
 

Phase out the array of crappy ones.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:51:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Arushia
Khanid Torp Marauder

Creodron Drone Marauder
/signed

Originally by: Arushia
Caldari Rail Marauder
Also /signed with a mandatory FIX RAILS NAO! attachment.

Originally by: Arushia
Whatever for Minmatar, I don't fly them.
Rapier/Huginn with a web strength bonus. Plx ccp do this as they they got hit worse than any other ship class in the game with the overall nano rework. Crying or Very sad

Thenoran
Caldari
Tranquility Industries
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:54:00 - [43]
 

Gas Mining ship.
Real ninja miner.

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2011.02.02 07:58:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: EnslaverOfMinmatar on 02/02/2011 07:59:00
Shadow battlecrabs and they would be used to kill everything else.

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:03:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Thenoran
Real ninja miner.
Osprey is the king of ninja mining. It aligns very quickly and gets about the same yield as a retreiver plus its dirt cheap and can be flown by low sp alts at nearly the same efficiency as a specialized miner. If its an organized mining op you can even put a fairly stout shield tank on it if you use best named mining lasors and go mine in nullsec or wormholes. Massed drones will take care of any rats or solo tacklers and the quick align will keep your cheap ship alive once the tackler is dead or an acceptable loss if you don't get out in time.

Spirulina Laxissima
Minmatar
TotalControl Inc.
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:28:00 - [46]
 

Asteroids with engines attached! (Hull tanked, vulnerable to mining-lasers)
Wrecks with engines! (Hull tanked, vulnerable to salvagers -this effectively disqualifies all Minmatar ships!)

Thenoran
Caldari
Tranquility Industries
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:33:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Thenoran
Real ninja miner.
Osprey is the king of ninja mining. It aligns very quickly and gets about the same yield as a retreiver plus its dirt cheap and can be flown by low sp alts at nearly the same efficiency as a specialized miner. If its an organized mining op you can even put a fairly stout shield tank on it if you use best named mining lasors and go mine in nullsec or wormholes. Massed drones will take care of any rats or solo tacklers and the quick align will keep your cheap ship alive once the tackler is dead or an acceptable loss if you don't get out in time.


What about cargo? Not much point being able to sneak into low-sec or 0.0 to mine the good stuff if you have to run the gauntlet for every 500m3 you mine.

Valrox
Caldari
665 Almost Evil
Serenity.
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:36:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: Emeos
Cariers that can actually carry piloted ships in them.

This.
And this http://keithneilson.co.uk/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/eve_online__tornado_by_dreamwa1ker-d30g6np.jpg

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:46:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 02/02/2011 08:57:14
Originally by: Mecinia Lua

Long Range Remote Sensor Damp (t1 Gallente EW Battleship along lines of the Caldari Scorpion)



Ugh. Just what Gallente desperately needs - more underwhelming garbage that no one in their right mind uses (see: hybrids; damps; info warfare; Gallente logi; etc. etc.). I, for one, can't wait to devote three midslots to damping down one opponent (after waiting 20 seconds to lock thanks to ~100mm scan res) in a field of 5/10/20/100+ with my trimarked, plated, 30-second-align-time battleship.

e: lol battleship scan resolution

Zhim'Fufu
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:49:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: Thenoran
Originally by: Zhim'Fufu
Originally by: Thenoran
Real ninja miner.
Osprey is the king of ninja mining. It aligns very quickly and gets about the same yield as a retreiver plus its dirt cheap and can be flown by low sp alts at nearly the same efficiency as a specialized miner. If its an organized mining op you can even put a fairly stout shield tank on it if you use best named mining lasors and go mine in nullsec or wormholes. Massed drones will take care of any rats or solo tacklers and the quick align will keep your cheap ship alive once the tackler is dead or an acceptable loss if you don't get out in time.


What about cargo? Not much point being able to sneak into low-sec or 0.0 to mine the good stuff if you have to run the gauntlet for every 500m3 you mine.
Pre-seeded secure cargo containers at well made safespots with a blockade runner to pick up the goods and take it to the pos or npc station refinery maybe?

What. You thought ninja mining is easy? And yes you can get into a blockade runner in a relatively low sp alt especially with the new 'max attribute' characters and a set of cheap +3 implants.

Jennifer Starling
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:56:00 - [51]
 

Two things:
1) Balance the existing T1 ships so far more of them are viable. What's the use of 4 cruisers and 6 frigates if people only fly 1 or 2 of them anyway;

2) designated specialist ships I'd like to see:
* a big bomber ship - a cruiser with BS weapons like a SB but one size bigger;
* anti-frigate ship, say a BS sized vessel that can fit 10-12 small weapons or a cruiser with 8;
* cyno ship (with nice carghohold)
* hauler that can transport non-repackaged ships
* dedicated salvage/archeaology/hacking ship
* a fast battleship with less firepower but twice the speed

to name a few

Shadowbuns
Posted - 2011.02.02 08:56:00 - [52]
 

Edited by: Shadowbuns on 02/02/2011 08:59:10
I thought a resupply support ship would be cool, you could resupply ammmo, missiles, drones, crystals, etc

Fleets can already call out what they need like armor repair, cap recharge, and shield boosting, so why not signaling their low on torps and have a support ship fly over, lock on and resupply them in the middle of a fight? It wouldn't have to be an entirely new class, perhaps just another ship in the logistics class :)

Skills could improve resupply rate, lower cycle duration, increase distance from ship you can supply from. I'm thinking sorta like a reverse tractor beam sorta deal. Perhaps even have them skill up what they can resupply and perhaps quantity of it. Ship bonus to cargo capacity? Or maybe it uses nanites to replicate the ammo they need and generates it out of raw materials you carry in your cargo bay? =/

Aloe Cloveris
The Greater Goon
Posted - 2011.02.02 09:05:00 - [53]
 

Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
I'd like a class of ships with minimal offensive capabilities, but with a bonus to remote ECCM and remote sensor booster.
Like an anti-EW logistics.


This actually sounds pretty cool.

Valator Uel
Caldari
Mercenaries of Andosia
Northern Coalition.
Posted - 2011.02.02 09:14:00 - [54]
 

1) Do not give away free ships. Because they are free and everyone gets one they automatically have to suck. Why not make them buildable by players and give them proper bonuses?

2) T3 frigates, BC and BS definitly need to be introduced. We need more pvp ships. Oh, fixing some of the existing broken ones helps too.

3) Screw mission/carebear ships for once, this is a pvp game.

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 09:27:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Aloe Cloveris
Edited by: Aloe Cloveris on 02/02/2011 08:57:14
Originally by: Mecinia Lua

Long Range Remote Sensor Damp (t1 Gallente EW Battleship along lines of the Caldari Scorpion)



Ugh. Just what Gallente desperately needs - more underwhelming garbage that no one in their right mind uses (see: hybrids; damps; info warfare; Gallente logi; etc. etc.). I, for one, can't wait to devote three midslots to damping down one opponent (after waiting 20 seconds to lock thanks to ~100mm scan res) in a field of 5/10/20/100+ with my trimarked, plated, 30-second-align-time battleship.

e: lol battleship scan resolution


You do realize if they had a long range sensor damp ship platform that would force the enemy ships to have to close range....which is good if your Gallente with Blasters.

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 09:59:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Two things:
1) Balance the existing T1 ships so far more of them are viable. What's the use of 4 cruisers and 6 frigates if people only fly 1 or 2 of them anyway;

2) designated specialist ships I'd like to see:
* a big bomber ship - a cruiser with BS weapons like a SB but one size bigger;
* anti-frigate ship, say a BS sized vessel that can fit 10-12 small weapons or a cruiser with 8;
* cyno ship (with nice carghohold)
* hauler that can transport non-repackaged ships
* dedicated salvage/archeaology/hacking ship
* a fast battleship with less firepower but twice the speed

to name a few


The frigates and cruisers were meant to be springboards to newer technologies.


For example:

Scythe: Mining Cruiser (Exhumers are better at it) or Logistics (Logistics is better at it)
Bellicose: EW Warfare (Huginn takes over the role at higher skill....still this ship is underutilized for what it does).
Rupture: Multi Purpose Cruiser (Muninn supplants it)
Stabber: Fast Attack Cruiser (Vagabond supplants it)

Osprey: Mining Cruiser (Exhumers are better, except at ninja mining as someone pointed out above) or Logistics (Logistics is better)
Blackbird: EW Warfare (Falcon/Rook/Scorpion take over role at higher skill.....the most common EW cruiser used)
Moa: Sniper (Ferox/Rokh take over role, possibly Eagle too)
Caracal: Missile Cruiser (Drake takes this role)

Celestis: EW Warfare (If more Gallente fleets included these the short range of blasters would not be an impediment).
Thorax: Fast Attack Cruiser (Deimos takes role)
Vexor: Light Drone Carrier, makes good combat/miner (Myrmidon takes over role then Domi)
Exequror: Cargo Cruiser (Transports supplant this), Logistics (Logistics support this)

Augoror: Energy Transfer (Specialized ship to support hi cap usage ships)
Maller: Armored Cruiser (Armageddon is better)
Omen: Strike Cruiser (Zealot is better)
Arbitrator: Light Drone Carrier, EW Warfare (Pilgrim takes over)

Nothing is really wrong with the cruisers it is the mindset we've developed. Far to many think any EW other than ECM is useless, and thus the complaints about Blasters being useless because no one uses the Celestis. If you paired a few celestis up with a blaster fleet you could get the time needed to close distance.

The Bellicose can overcome the tracking problems of artillery easily with Target Painters, but you don't see them used as much as they should be.

Arbitrator as a raider is pretty common, that is the energy neut/tackler set up, but it is equally effective against an enemy fleet consisting of turret ships when paired with other ships as it can shut down the enemy turrets.

EW Frigates are the same way, they are a cheap way other than tackling that a new player can make an impact, however they will quickly leave those behind for cruisers if they like that job, and eventually to recons.

Magnate makes about the best cyno ship for low skill pilots (Probe for the higher skilled ones after it gets more cargo space).

The Breacher is a highly underused ship however in the hands of a skilled pilot it can contain quite a wallop. Though obviously if you fly stealth bombers you'll stop using it.

T1 Frigates and Cruisers were never meant to be a ship you'd stay in as you advanced, however anyone has the option to use them and yes they are weaker than their t2 cousins as they should be but that doesn't mean they can't be effective in numbers.

Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
Posted - 2011.02.02 10:08:00 - [57]
 

Mobile Cyno Jammer - jams on grid but not system wide
Ship hauler that can use gates
Rams Twisted Evil

Mecinia Lua
Galactic Express
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.02.02 10:33:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: Jackie Fisher
Mobile Cyno Jammer - jams on grid but not system wide
Ship hauler that can use gates
Rams Twisted Evil


Mobile Cyno Jammer sounds interesting, capital ship I'm sure and uses fuel to jam.

Ship Hauler....like the Orca but maybe more for ships.

Rams....can't ram in eve, but its a okay idea I think :)

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.02.02 11:48:00 - [59]
 

Frigate sized logistics ships with bonus to medium reppers/energy transfers and a sexy tiny signature radius would be nice for AF/inty fleets.

Shintai
Gallente
Arx Io Orbital Factories
Arx Io
Posted - 2011.02.02 11:56:00 - [60]
 

Mobile capital industrial ships with manufactoring lines. Perhaps needs to be anchored etc to produce.


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