open All Channels
seplocked EVE Information Portal
blankseplocked EVE Online: Incursion 1.1.2 to be deployed Thursday, January 27, 2011
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Pages: first : previous : ... 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 ... : last (17)

Author Topic

Barakkus
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:20:00 - [181]
 

Originally by: Lee Anderson
Please edit more you still have 10 spelling errors, and note that "carebears" are making billions thanks to people using
T2 battleships, Factions ships ect. Rolling Eyes.

To CCP: please make the incursions harder I believe they are still too easy and I still want a few more billion from idiots.ugh


Since you want to be a grammar/spelling ****, I fixed your post for you. Wink

Diablo Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:21:00 - [182]
 

Edited by: Diablo Maximus on 26/01/2011 18:30:11


I didnt lose a ship in the incursion (since I was looting all of your dead wrecks) but must back up this comment.

Originally by: Venge Daveed

I strongly suspect that most (not all, but most) of the folks who see the difficulty as about right have simply not yet faced a real Sansha incursion of any complexity. I would loved to have seen them last night in Colelie in that area where I saw nothing but multiple dozens of dead capsuler remains and a screen full of Sansha ships all of which were very much alive. There was not a single live capsuler there. Not one. Where were these tough guys? Oh, right. Many of them were among the dead capsuler remains.




In that incursion (Colelie and surrounding systems) there were more than 3500 player ships total destroyed in the past 24 hours. This puts 0.0 battle related deaths to UTTER shame. Over 3,500 player ships (first day incursion related) destroyed and the incursion was not repelled beyond 47%! When was the last battle in the game what saw over 3,500 capsuleer deaths within a timeframe of 24 hours?

Those who think this is just about right are smoking too much weed.

It is so perfectly balanced that very few ppl are doing incursion anymore. Look at your journals. None of them are even the slightest bit blue. Unlike yesterday where the Colelie area incursion was half blue before people gave up after losing literally thousands of ships.

Dont believe it was this many? Go to your starmap and look up statistics. This puts any major alliance war or 0.0 operation to shame. Hint: its the brightest white/yellow blob on the entire map of the galaxy!

Communis
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:31:00 - [183]
 

In looking at the star map statistics and the incursion tab in the journal it appears as if the shiny has worn off already. After watching ship after ship die in seconds upon entry to the incursion site, it seems clear the content is only for the most advanced fleet players. I operate as a solo player, primarily in low sec, so this patch does nothing for me. By and large the incursions may at times create a minor annoyance if the Sansha invade an area I typically work. Other than that this will be content I will more than likely never use. For all the carebear hating hardcores, remember that they still pay their monthly subscriptions just like the pvp'ers. As such, they help keep CCP profitable and keep the game going. New content that carebears can access is not a bad thing.

Karash Amerius
Sutoka
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:32:00 - [184]
 

Sansha just attacked...it will be some time before the cluster can up their tactics and combat knowledge to deal with it. Don't get your panties in a wad. Learn, Adapt, or Vacate.

Sniffy McJiggles
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:44:00 - [185]
 

Iam sure CCP will dumb them down for the ill-equipped, but at least they are more challenging than PI. <insert troll about the chest beating from test>

Nikuno
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:51:00 - [186]
 

Most importantly, will this stop concord from shooting the capsuleers who are shooting the sansha? All it takes is one person in a remote repair chain to shoot another player, and everyone in the chain gets concordokened! Come on concord, if you're going to turn up in force it should be to shoot the Sansha, not some poor sap trying to keep other capsuleers alive Laughing

Tooonz
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:55:00 - [187]
 

After checking out some of the incursion sites in my cloaky ship, and losing one, ive seen a lot of people lose ships, but I've also seen some of the sites being completed. The sites themselves will probably need tweeking some, but they arn't impossible. However, the system control needs a major change, a corp mate of mine was in a massive fleet that completed site after site and never got the system control bar to do any major movement, and what little movement there was disappeared after a few hours or so. The incursions as they are now are darn near impossible to complete even if you get a good fleet together to run the sites.

JohnRambo PT
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:55:00 - [188]
 

CCP don't bring the incursions to LV4 missions or to the asteroid fields in high sec, we that like to play calmly and don't play this game to loose money, we like to stay as we were till now, if the "crazy, rich, like_to_blow_money" capsulers out there want to do it, let them do it in low sec or 0.0, let high sec alone.

don't fuC"$"#$"#$K ppl life in high sec, i got 2 accounts that pay 15€/month totalling 30€/month to play relaxating and without assle, if you fuC"#$"#$"K my game you will defennly loose this income, and i'm those players that don't buy plexes with ingame isk, i pay the real money, so listen to US!!!!

\my 2 cent's

JohnRambo PT

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:57:00 - [189]
 

1: Please point me to the Dev blog that states Incursions were intended to be doable solo, or by noob players.

2: Incursions were not introduced as single player content. There is PLENTY of that available for those so inclined.

3: A true sandbox has content not only for lower skilled or solo players, but also has content available for highly skilled groups as well.

4: No one is "forcing" you to interact with this new content. If you don't have the skills or desire to group up, simply move a few jumps until the Incursion is cleared. There is literally nothing keeping you from being mobile. You just don't wish to be.

5: Expect replys to nerd rage posts about how "impossible" or "unfair" these Incursions are to be met with plenty of amusement. There are people that have already figured out how to do them with well organized groups of moderately skilled players flying run of the mill ships. I have bolded the secret key to their success.


Diablo Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:59:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Tooonz
After checking out some of the incursion sites in my cloaky ship, and losing one, ive seen a lot of people lose ships, but I've also seen some of the sites being completed. The sites themselves will probably need tweeking some, but they arn't impossible. However, the system control needs a major change, a corp mate of mine was in a massive fleet that completed site after site and never got the system control bar to do any major movement, and what little movement there was disappeared after a few hours or so. The incursions as they are now are darn near impossible to complete even if you get a good fleet together to run the sites.


I think this player hit the nail on the head.

Omega Tron
Amarr
Amarr Mining Inc
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:00:00 - [191]
 

To CCP Dev's –
You have succeeded in once again making EVE Online the toughest MMO in the world. This is why I play only this MMO. Here you must think--plan--execute to survive in this virtual world.
To the whiner’s ---
You need to use your brain more than your whiner typing in this forum and start thinking—planing—executing. Or just go back to playing WOW or one of the other – I’m a stupid player so don’t let me think for myself MMO games.

I now yield back to the trolls & whiners to continue on... KILL SANSAHA

xenos 21
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:01:00 - [192]
 

Edited by: xenos 21 on 26/01/2011 19:04:16
Edited by: xenos 21 on 26/01/2011 19:03:17
Well, my experience in EVE is not long.

I am flying Drake now and Going to get BS soon and after reading all that stuff in chat channels and even here I will not risk my Drake to try Sansha missions, because making back cost of my ship will take alot of time for me (actually boring mission grinding).

What else I can offer frig, cruiser? I doubt it. That means incursions not for me.

Thats bad, I thought it will be something interesting for me too. So far it is not.
And I dont think it was interesting for big part of those people ho lost thousands of ships and got what? Sansha still wining, bars are filled with Sanscha success with almost 100% everywhere.

Maybe its high end content and this bring fun for those experienced players. Maybe, I dont know, I am not one of them.

For me personally as I said, nothing good out of this.

Lee Anderson
Eternal Profiteers
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:04:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Barakkus
Originally by: Lee Anderson
Please edit more you still have 10 spelling errors, and note that "carebears" are making billions thanks to people using
T2 battleships, Factions ships ect. Rolling Eyes.

To CCP: please make the incursions harder I believe they are still too easy and I still want a few more billion from idiots.ugh


Since you want to be a grammar/spelling ****, I fixed your post for you. Wink

Thank you 1 error, I must say I'm not bad for a high school drop out Laughing. And yes I suck in life sense I'm a High School drop out. WOOT

Diablo Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:04:00 - [194]
 

Edited by: Diablo Maximus on 26/01/2011 19:04:11
Originally by: Omega Tron
To CCP Dev's –
You have succeeded in once again making EVE Online the toughest MMO in the world. This is why I play only this MMO. Here you must think--plan--execute to survive in this virtual world.
To the whiner’s ---
You need to use your brain more than your whiner typing in this forum and start thinking—planing—executing. Or just go back to playing WOW or one of the other – I’m a stupid player so don’t let me think for myself MMO games.

I now yield back to the trolls & whiners to continue on... KILL SANSAHA


Only an Amarr can confuse intelligent discussion with whining because Amarr arent very smart to begin with. Frankly, I think you are a Sansha spy.

RobW1
Caldari
Iyen-Oursta Salvage
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:06:00 - [195]
 

So do I find an incursion by going to the journal -> Global Report -> Constellation, and clicking refresh?

I've been trying on and off for a few days, and never see anything listed.

Diablo Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:07:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: RobW1
So do I find an incursion by going to the journal -> Global Report -> Constellation, and clicking refresh?

I've been trying on and off for a few days, and never see anything listed.


Try clearing all cache files and restarting EVE. Worked for me.

xenos 21
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:08:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: RobW1
So do I find an incursion by going to the journal -> Global Report -> Constellation, and clicking refresh?

I've been trying on and off for a few days, and never see anything listed.


U need to clear cache. Esc/reset settings. Seems you have to do it every time u log in to get update. It seems bugged.

Also there are "incursions" channel.

Karia Sur
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:12:00 - [198]
 

Originally by: Ranger 1
1: Please point me to the Dev blog that states Incursions were intended to be doable solo, or by noob players.




Expansions are meant as an improvement to the existing game, and also as a means of attracting new players to said game. If you remove the Incursions from the expansion, then you are left with a character creator which although good, is not an integral part of the game (yet), and a tarted up version of PI which has been out for awhile. On that score, CCP have failed massively with this expansion in the customer recruiting sense. I admit some new accounts will train up the required skills in order to take part, but i think a lot who specifically joined for the Incursions, will not be here in 2 months.

PS. This is not a nerf-incursions post.

Evell Grey
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:21:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: Karia Sur
Originally by: Ranger 1
1: Please point me to the Dev blog that states Incursions were intended to be doable solo, or by noob players.




Expansions are meant as an improvement to the existing game, and also as a means of attracting new players to said game. If you remove the Incursions from the expansion, then you are left with a character creator which although good, is not an integral part of the game (yet), and a tarted up version of PI which has been out for awhile. On that score, CCP have failed massively with this expansion in the customer recruiting sense. I admit some new accounts will train up the required skills in order to take part, but i think a lot who specifically joined for the Incursions, will not be here in 2 months.

PS. This is not a nerf-incursions post.


People sign up for EVE just to run incursion sites? haha.

First of all, anyone has not played eve will not know enough to even know what an incursion is or what it means or if its worth doing or probably if they've even found one when they log on or not.

Second... Incursions is the only worthwhile content in Eve ATM? I wasn't aware, I'm too busy doing other **** in this massive game.

And on a related note: To the people are saying, "This isn't fair! I pay for this game and i can't beat these complexes solo, or with **** ships, or with no organization" It is not your RIGHT to beat this. it is your right to TRY and beat it if you want.

And to people who said this f'd up hi-sec for carebear players? Jump over a system, dude. Jesus.

Evell

Dark reminance
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:21:00 - [200]
 

Jeezuz fu(kn kryyst, aanuthur kkote of prymyr 4 dis? Y kant u just admit, ccp, you're gay, racist, and VERY inefficient at what you do.

Skin tones? You silly fools, Icelandic people are like saltine crackers, they are about as white as the snow they eat. The darkest tone of skin they could ever imagine is say...well icelandics cant imagine ****. so there!

PJRiddick
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:21:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: Venge Daveed
Originally by: GeoBlue
Point blank and to the end this was an overkill on ccp's part. This is all about more money, simple as that. We all have heard the horror stories of trying to fight in these incursions, and so far the majority says it sucks, so deal with it.I watched BS's die to sansha rifters and t3 ships last only a few seconds, thats cool and fair? How is that, oh yeah people lose more ships and then might have to buy PLEX so they can get more, hmmmm interesting thought isn't it. ...)]


BINGO! I thought it but didn't say it earlier. More lost ships and fittings means more need to buy ships and fittings means much more likelihood that PLEX will be bought. Result: CCP makes more $$$$$ from their players. That said, if it continues, when my account renewal comes up next month, they won't be seeing anymore of my money at all.

When you die in seconds from an insta-lock capbable Sansha ship with an ungodly and unrealistically high DPS that can melt thousands (I said THOUSANDS) of HPs in seconds before you can even target an enemy ... well, when that's the scenario something is seriously messed up. Has nothing to do with skill levels, EVE time (days or years), or even ship choice. Just seriously messed up.

I strongly suspect that most (not all, but most) of the folks who see the difficulty as about right have simply not yet faced a real Sansha incursion of any complexity. I would loved to have seen them last night in Colelie in that area where I saw nothing but multiple dozens of dead capsuler remains and a screen full of Sansha ships all of which were very much alive. There was not a single live capsuler there. Not one. Where were these tough guys? Oh, right. Many of them were among the dead capsuler remains.

If the incursion feature is only playable by the most highly skilled and wealthy EVE players, such should have been stated instead of CCP blatantly lying by implying that the Sansha incursion update was something all levels of player could enjoy. It ain't, and it won't be until some sanity is shown in how the Sansha capabilities are distributed. If it is only something for the highest skilled, just say so. At least then the level 4 and under players will know and have no excuses when we get pulverized by the Sansha.

I said it in my earlier post and I'll say it again ==> CCP, please consider establishing a balanced Sansha capability instead of making them almost invincible war gods of the universe. I don't want them to be as wimpy as most rats. I DO want them to be a real challange, but there's gotta be a way to do that without making them virtually immune to defeat by anyone other than those with the highest level of skills.

This is BS, and I don't mean "battleship." Surely CCP should realize that they have given FARRRRR too much capability to the Sansha.




Venge, i do need to agree with oyu, i havent been in one of these incursions yet but i soon will. From what ive been told that these Sancha incursions are uber hard and with out firesupport, they are impossable to get thru at all. CCP, i do reolize that the game is jsut that, a game but, if you want to make the incursions a bitmore interesting and such, make them "level friendly" and make it so that if you want to solo a level, then it will be like to your skillpoints that way some guy with 50 mil so cant get into a incursion that requires 20mil sp and under,...something like that.
I know that in my first incursion,..im planning on loosing a ship or two,...but im gonna go into it for the learning experience and have a bit of fun.
Good job with the game, the only ***** tha ti have is the SSE2 thing,...kind of hit me hard seeing that all my machines except one is SSE only
SO for the time being im stuck to one machine.
laterzzz all

-=+>xXx<+=-
riddick

Evell Grey
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:29:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: GeoBlue
Point blank and to the end this was an overkill on ccp's part. This is all about more money, simple as that. We all have heard the horror stories of trying to fight in these incursions, and so far the majority says it sucks, so deal with it.I watched BS's die to sansha rifters and t3 ships last only a few seconds, thats cool and fair? How is that, oh yeah people lose more ships and then might have to buy PLEX so they can get more, hmmmm interesting thought isn't it. ...


This is one of the most ******ed things I have ever heard. If CCP wanted more money, they could just charge more money for the game... they do set the price remember? No need for the conspiracy. Although your tinfoil hat is rather dashing.

And lets also point out we did not pay specifically for this expansion like you would have in WoW.

Evell

Dark reminance
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:33:00 - [203]
 

Oh this topic was about incursion, not bashing ccp again. Ok, dont play any of the Incursions, just let them spawn and sit there. Then ccp may actually say, "WTF, no one is playing our fail new release." That way, no one loses money, ships, whatever. MAYBE, maaaaaybeee, they'll either pull eve online from the wall socket, or release content we money payers want.

ccp is gay

FeralShadow
NME1
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:38:00 - [204]
 

#1. LOGISTICS LOGISTICS LOGISTICS

Did a simple incursion last night, and we had nearly 3-4 logistics ships. we didn't even sweat

#2. REALLY GOOD HACKING SHIP (at least 1, preferrably 2).

If one dies, you have the next, but ideally you want the stuff hacked in one attempt


It's tough to just jump into a group and expect there to be logistics... if there isn't logistics then dont even attempt the site you are NOT going to make it. This is for group players only, and It should stay that way. this game has NEVER been about lone players. You can do your own thing, but you will never EVER experience the full game. As for the high sec missioners, I hope the sansha's camp you into station, you guys epitomize the loner mindset, not willing to help anybody else or even play with other people.

Blah (having a bad day)

-Feral

Diablo Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:46:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: FeralShadow
#1. LOGISTICS LOGISTICS LOGISTICS

Did a simple incursion last night, and we had nearly 3-4 logistics ships. we didn't even sweat


-Feral


Where you the one I looted the Gist X-type sheidl boost amplifier from?

Evell Grey
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:49:00 - [206]
 

Edited by: Evell Grey on 26/01/2011 19:49:28
This is the worst expansion to any MMO ever. If I can't run these new complexes I do not want to play anymore, there is nothing left to do in EVE other than Incursions.

I am quiting the game and giving away my ISK... send any amount and I will triple it!

Yes, I know it doesn't make sense for me to take money to give money, but trust me it does :)

Evell

I'm out for the day! Enjoy

Venge Daveed
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:56:00 - [207]
 

Originally by: Diablo Maximus
Originally by: FeralShadow
#1. LOGISTICS LOGISTICS LOGISTICS

Did a simple incursion last night, and we had nearly 3-4 logistics ships. we didn't even sweat


-Feral


Where you the one I looted the Gist X-type sheidl boost amplifier from?

Ok. I see the beginnings of a "Sansha Battlefield Looting Guide." You've convinced me. Tonight I fly a cloaked Noctis. Idea (And will likely not have it to fly tomorrow. Rolling Eyes

Dark reminance
Posted - 2011.01.26 20:01:00 - [208]
 

Quote:

It is so perfectly balanced that very few ppl are doing incursion anymore. Look at your journals. None of them are even the slightest bit blue. Unlike yesterday where the Colelie area incursion was half blue before people gave up after losing literally thousands of ships.


Oh look, they're still not even the slightest bit blue <time stamped 2000 eve>. It's working already...hah, you failed again ccp.

Karia Sur
Posted - 2011.01.26 20:02:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Evell Grey
People sign up for EVE just to run incursion sites? haha.


now go back and read what i posted and take a couple of minutes to digest what i actually wrote before making an half-assed comment.

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.01.26 20:05:00 - [210]
 

Edited by: Razin on 26/01/2011 20:07:15
Originally by: Diablo Maximus


In that incursion (Colelie and surrounding systems) there were more than 3500 player ships total destroyed in the past 24 hours. This puts 0.0 battle related deaths to UTTER shame. Over 3,500 player ships (first day incursion related) destroyed and the incursion was not repelled beyond 47%! When was the last battle in the game what saw over 3,500 capsuleer deaths within a timeframe of 24 hours?

Comparing PvP battle stats with mass extermination of bear-lemmings by NPCs is retarded.


Pages: first : previous : ... 3 4 5 6 [7] 8 9 10 11 ... : last (17)

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only