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Armenjun
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:20:00 - [91]
 

Originally by: Fox Andromeda
This is simply put, the best eve patch ever. if you dont like the sansha incursions your not playing the right game. you should be playing a game more suited to your age :) one with no moving parts.

heh... you a crazy.how many system you and your gang cleared?
This is a more PVP game, not PVE.if this not be fixed CCP lost more gamers!
EVE is a free MOORPG!most people just do not want to play in such an obsessive PVE!

evetastic
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:23:00 - [92]
 

i just hope the new patch will fix the issues im aving with my icons dissapearing on my ships and drones

Geana Tem
Gallente
The Order of Symbolic Measures
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:26:00 - [93]
 

Originally by: Laeris Evanstar
Originally by: de v
Originally by: Hieronomus
Irregardless ; )


Fun fact: "irregardless" is not, and has never been, a word.


It's a word... just one used by less educated people.


Presactly ... less-educated, eh wut?

bigbigpure1
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:26:00 - [94]
 

i made so much isk to day from loot/sal of one of the low sec ones so meny ppl got killd on the gates even the pve in eve is pvp

Japeth Genesis
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:28:00 - [95]
 

Will you actually fix the nightmare in this patch?

Teneria
Caldari
Sonnenlegion
Smacked Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:29:00 - [96]
 

1st: EVE is a dark an harsh world.

2nd: Incursion difficulty

We have done several Incursions with a well prepared Fleet yesterday, we have got no single loss, despite of a bench of drones that got shot at, and none of our ships was ever endangered to get destroeyed.
So if you fly in these sites and die, you are not well prepared. Incursions are ment to be High end, all of you that lost ships yesterday, have you ever faced a tougher sleeper site, have you ever tested Incursions on sisi to see what you'll face up too?

I would say: no you have not. Get prepared and face the Sansha as it is ment to be done. Learn something about fleet tactics, learn something aboutt game mechanics, or simply stay in LVL 4 Missions and enjoy the boredom.

@ CCP don't you dare make this stuff easier as it is, otherwise it would become very very boring.

heart01
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:33:00 - [97]
 

cut ya whinging out those peeps who think CCP is allways (**&^up. CCP does an absolutely fab job. Nothing in life goes smoothly and if it did there wouldnt be any challenges.

those peeps who whinge obviously have created a better game - ha I think not...

keep up the great work CCP -

heart01

Cildipus
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:37:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Fox Andromeda
This is simply put, the best eve patch ever. if you dont like the sansha incursions your not playing the right game. you should be playing a game more suited to your age :) one with no moving parts.


While I agree to some degree that this game is intended to be more challenging than others and retain a higher level of intelligence than mainstream mmos, I don't agree with the idea of forcing players into combat situations where new players simply won't be ready for them.

As for carebears..... I see nothing wrong with a player who enjoys market trading or activities involving non-combat orientated gameplay. The game is afterall capitalistic and I think people are too hard on what carebears are about.
There is simply too much at stake for players with no combat skills or experience. I don't consider it a great update when it forces your players to lose what they spent the last 7 months of gameplay trying to earn. A hulk isn't cheap and for a player to earn his first one, is a milestone - Tell me its fair that CCP releases an update that could and probably has, caused a 7 month old account to lose a 200mil hulk. Not cool. And people wonder why there are macro miners.

Bl4ck Ph03n1x
Echoes of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:45:00 - [99]
 

wtf patch announce without patchnote?

radax permutation
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:52:00 - [100]
 

Originally by: Farrah Contractor
Personally I hope that they re-balance the incursions a little.

Currently, on one incursion in Algingtal Constellation, player ship losses are in excess of 3300 ships.
That is just one constellation. There are six other incursions active.

I've been actively fighting for twelve hours and the hundred of players, losing thousands of ships could not get below 47% Sansha Influence. People are tired and disbanding fleets (Or running out of ships to Leeroy!), and so the influence was back up to 54% when I logged. This is the full might of the player base. Where's the progress?

My personal losses on day 1 were a Navy Mega, Vaga, Firetail and Ishkur.... No big deal for me personally, but my 180K EHP Navy Mega (Trimarked & LG Slave Clone boosted) melted in less than 20 seconds despite logistics in fleet, and that's annoying..

I've seen a Kronos, Navy Apoc and 80% of the supporting 12 person fleet get vaped trying to do a Vanguard site (supposedly at the easier end of the spectrum, for 5-10 people) ... That's a lot of ISK hurting.

The successful fleet I was invovled with was running 5 Logistics out of 20 ships (seriously, you need that many??), and we still lost a ship to too much DPS and insufficient buffer tank.

Added to which, we got shafted on ISK and LP because people came and ghosted through the site in noncombat ships, increasing effective fleet size. (Even though they weren't on overview when we completed the objective, they still must've gotten counted somehow!)

Right now the esprit de corps is high - it's first day and the determination amongst the player base to complete the objective is high. But, we cannot sustain these ship losses forever, and it's not going to be any fun in the long term.

Seriously, WTF CCP?? I hope you're re-balancing the Incursion difficulty in this patch.


if CCP want to make it hard like or similar to pvp levels then 5 logis aren't that "so much" so balance should be correct....
if CCP want to make it easier then PVP then it's too hard...

i say dont make it so easy

Diablo Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:52:00 - [101]
 

Originally by: Bl4ck Ph03n1x
wtf patch announce without patchnote?


They havent made up their minds on what to patch. Laughing

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:56:00 - [102]
 

Originally by: Diablo Maximus
Originally by: Bl4ck Ph03n1x
wtf patch announce without patchnote?


They havent made up their minds on what to patch. Laughing


Well, they used to do so multiple times now.

Ronan Ko'dred
Minmatar
Minmatar Ship Construction Services
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:56:00 - [103]
 

Hey finally another good expansion CCP ! First one to mention since Apocrypha. A many great lulz i had these days Laughing and even lost a phoon to pesky sanshas. U got my attention again.

GL fixing stuff, keep it hardcore, heck even make those Incursions having serious long term impact on whole Regions if they dont get repelled.

GJ so far Cool

Diablo Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:58:00 - [104]
 

Originally by: Farrah Contractor
Personally I hope that they re-balance the incursions a little.

Currently, on one incursion in Algingtal Constellation, player ship losses are in excess of 3300 ships.
That is just one constellation. There are six other incursions active.

I've been actively fighting for twelve hours and the hundred of players, losing thousands of ships could not get below 47% Sansha Influence. People are tired and disbanding fleets (Or running out of ships to Leeroy!), and so the influence was back up to 54% when I logged. This is the full might of the player base. Where's the progress?

My personal losses on day 1 were a Navy Mega, Vaga, Firetail and Ishkur.... No big deal for me personally, but my 180K EHP Navy Mega (Trimarked & LG Slave Clone boosted) melted in less than 20 seconds despite logistics in fleet, and that's annoying..

I've seen a Kronos, Navy Apoc and 80% of the supporting 12 person fleet get vaped trying to do a Vanguard site (supposedly at the easier end of the spectrum, for 5-10 people) ... That's a lot of ISK hurting.

The successful fleet I was invovled with was running 5 Logistics out of 20 ships (seriously, you need that many??), and we still lost a ship to too much DPS and insufficient buffer tank.

Added to which, we got shafted on ISK and LP because people came and ghosted through the site in noncombat ships, increasing effective fleet size. (Even though they weren't on overview when we completed the objective, they still must've gotten counted somehow!)

Right now the esprit de corps is high - it's first day and the determination amongst the player base to complete the objective is high. But, we cannot sustain these ship losses forever, and it's not going to be any fun in the long term.

Seriously, WTF CCP?? I hope you're re-balancing the Incursion difficulty in this patch.


Seriously ^^ This is beyond level 5 missioning. I left this same constellation when it was 57% Sansha Influence. I went to bed and came back 6 hours later and it was 100% Sansha influence? WTF? All of those player ships fighting ALL DAY, only getting 57% and then when ppl have to go to bed they wake up to see this Sh*t?

On the bright side, ppl brought some nice ships and dropped some nice faction mods. After losing them they were too afraid to recover them. Thank you for the loot. YARRRR!!

Armenjun
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:07:00 - [105]
 

Seriously ^^ This is beyond level 5 missioning. I left this same constellation when it was 57% Sansha Influence. I went to bed and came back 6 hours later and it was 100% Sansha influence? WTF? All of those player ships fighting ALL DAY, only getting 57% and then when ppl have to go to bed they wake up to see this Sh*t?

On the bright side, ppl brought some nice ships and dropped some nice faction mods. After losing them they were too afraid to recover them. Thank you for the loot. YARRRR!!



+1

Buckaroo Kamakazee
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:11:00 - [106]
 

No patch notes yet???? Could CCP be Rickrolling us? Twisted Evil

Fire Darkson
Gallente
Space Nomads
White Angels.
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:30:00 - [107]
 

Incursion is great!!! Idon't think that anybody will leave this game because of this patch. This patch brights this game to more colours. So PVP and PVE pilots still can have fun. And they will have same interest or even more interest to this game. I think that NEW pilots will be interesting of this game more with this new patch. It's like another side of EVE - darkside. GREAT!!! Very Happy

P.S. Sorry about my language if something wrong. I'm UA player.

P.P.S. Fix that bug or what ever it is... with drone window (i can't control my drones because there is no drone status window anymore) Confused Controlling drones in this "no window" style takes more time and problems.

Nayl Mkoll
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:31:00 - [108]
 

I know all the players who are old and powerful and able to for great well prepared fleets, course your gonna say everythings peachy.

My fundamental problem is incursion is suppose to be a cross age content. AND it was advertised as a new player generating device.

I have no problem with the higher more rewarding sites being uber difficult but there needs to be more accessible content for younger players if this is suppose to be content for everyone. Im surprised no one mentioned that. the 3-5 player sites are always all but cleared. and vanguard site sent our fleet packing in under 30 seconds. It was a fleet from our corp but other than our leader and a few others 5-6 of the ships were 3 month or less characters.

Like im saying you dont need to have a bipolar reaction to this. There isnt one end of the spectrum or the other. more content needs to be hashed out so theres a broad range of content. content that can be completed by younger players and content that will tax the skills of the older players.

Did i expect to go out there and pop sansha capital ships.... hell no. Did i expect to be able to go out there and do my part without losing a bc in 20 seconds...yes.

Another thing I cant say for certain as im not a fiction expert but my boss was mentioning the sansha forces were doing very un sansha things.

Whats the point of creating backstory fiction to build up a race for deployment to then change all their rules so that they kick everyones ass.

just my 2 cents.

Discuss. Rather than just say its suppose to be difficult think about players who arnt flying every t2 and faction ship in the game.


de v
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:40:00 - [109]
 

Originally by: Geana Tem
Originally by: Laeris Evanstar
Originally by: de v
Originally by: Hieronomus
Irregardless ; )


Fun fact: "irregardless" is not, and has never been, a word.


It's a word... just one used by less educated people.


Presactly ... less-educated, eh wut?


Less educated? That's unpossible.

im mrmessy
Caldari
SUNDERING
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:40:00 - [110]
 

Will yo fix overview bugs?
our entire supercapital fleet showed up as neutral in one system and as blue in another

Vaschel Novak
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:44:00 - [111]
 

where are dem fuggen patchnotes?

Prol Kabanenko
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:46:00 - [112]
 

Originally by: Nayl Mkoll
there needs to be more accessible content for younger players


+100500

The Big Boss
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:46:00 - [113]
 

Originally by: Phreema Tsabro
This thread is useless without patch notes. Rolling Eyes


As they will be working on the patch until the last moment, the notes will be released later, after the effects are tallied and the tears collected.

Soldarius
Caldari
Peek-A-Boo Bombers
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:48:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Lennvas
It's probably too late to report issues, but whenever I close the map, the tab it got attached to(chat) keeps being broader than beforeI opened the map, about one third of the screen.
Second issue I have, thought that is the case since I started playing more than a year ago, text in the chatwindow is cut on the bottom, I can only guess how much doesn appear. Its the same for chatchannel mottos( the stuff in red). What about fixing that? It's really annoying to loose up on conversations due to seeing only part of it.


I have had that issue as well since Dominion was released. It's especially noticeable if there is MOTD text, and is exacerbated by varying colors, styles, and font sizes. After some experimentation, I found an easy work-around. Just click on the dragable divider between character thumbs and text area.

The problem seems to be an issue with the font size swapping required to render text when switching between or initializing chat windows. You'll have to do this every time you switch chat tabs in a grouped window. I feel it's a minor annoyance. But it would be nice to see it fixed.

The Big Boss
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:53:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Armenjun
This is a more PVP game, not PVE.if this not be fixed CCP lost more gamers!
EVE is a free MOORPG!most people just do not want to play in such an obsessive PVE!


I had no problems moving out of tha Incursion constellation and continuing my sandbox.
I had no problems cruising and inspecting Incursion systems in a rookie ship, there were so many pretty wrecks too!
If you snooze, you loose.

JooJoo Akarr
Minmatar
Territorial Western Alliance of Higher Technology
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:56:00 - [116]
 

Yea it would really suck to be a 2 week old player going "oh cool, incursions are finally here, lets go check it out!" only to warp into an incursion site and get that thrasher youve been working hard for instapopped. Maybe a warning for the newer players instead of just a pop up box with a nice little background story before the eventual beating they will undergo?

And for the record, carebears arent really affected by the incursions. I for one dont really mind them and have gone back to my regular missioning routine. Although i may go back to a site just to chill amongst a sea of fellow players trying to take a site down.

From what i've heard, watching a group of 60+ ships getting owned in a matter of a few seconds is quite the sight to behold...lol.

ShadowandLight
Amarr
Cryptonym Sleepers
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.01.26 12:59:00 - [117]
 

I love this game! Its called "Guess what we will brea..Patch on Thursday!"

Next week, we can play " Time to guess what the patch of the patch of the patch will be! "

Eve Online - Making you pay for Beta testing on live servers since May 6th 2003

SuZiE DeMaRcHi
Caldari
Working For The Enemy Federation
Posted - 2011.01.26 13:02:00 - [118]
 

Edited by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi on 26/01/2011 13:03:29
Oh plz can we have the patchnotes im zomg eager to see what you broke this time
and wait till next week for a patch that will fix the patch for this friday
which was the patch that was ment to fix the 21st's patch which was..... Um Yeah o_0

WiLlMaCk
Caldari
Gunpoint Diplomacy
Posted - 2011.01.26 13:06:00 - [119]
 

Originally by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi
Edited by: SuZiE DeMaRcHi on 26/01/2011 13:03:29
Oh plz can we have the patchnotes im zomg eager to see what you broke this time
and wait till next week for a patch that will fix the patch for this friday
which was the patch that was ment to fix the 21st's patch which was..... Um Yeah o_0



+1 Agreed

riddick chappell
Posted - 2011.01.26 13:08:00 - [120]
 

i'm working nights this week so i am not in the best of moods,
you've done it yet again, the last 6 holidays i have booked, you've do ****ing patches, we this time is my birthday, so ****ing pospone it !


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