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Steal Spirit
Posted - 2011.01.26 02:57:00 - [61]
 

Since the last patch some ships pictures (thrasher, rifter) appear as a black box with an exclamation mark. Other ships are ok. Never had this issue before.

Changing the texture quality and emptying the cache didn't help.

Known issue or a new one?

de v
Posted - 2011.01.26 03:12:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Hieronomus
Irregardless ; )


Fun fact: "irregardless" is not, and has never been, a word.

Kalamity Jaine
Posted - 2011.01.26 03:17:00 - [63]
 

Irregardless is an informal term commonly used in place of regardless or irrespective, which has caused controversy since it first appeared in the early twentieth century. Most dictionaries list it as "nonstandard" or "incorrect".

one of these days, can I have somebody's stuff? Razz
kill the carebear stare!!!!!!!! yarrrrrrr!!!!!!!!!YARRRR!!

hulkageddon, let's get it on now!!!! Razz

Laeris Evanstar
Amarr
Petals of Derketo
Posted - 2011.01.26 03:30:00 - [64]
 

Originally by: de v
Originally by: Hieronomus
Irregardless ; )


Fun fact: "irregardless" is not, and has never been, a word.


It's a word... just one used by less educated people.

MisterAl tt1
Posted - 2011.01.26 03:34:00 - [65]
 

Patchnotes please!

1.1.1 brough so much mess to wormholes that I am still gathering for a BIG bug-report, so I just wonder - maybe all this is going to be fixed and I don't need to waste my time writing the wall of text?

Linda Flamewalker
Posted - 2011.01.26 04:00:00 - [66]
 

Can has fix for the blackscreen that keeps happening after oh 2 mins making it impossible to play the game? (yes even when run as admin)

Gartanus
Caldari
Gartanus Corp
Posted - 2011.01.26 04:13:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: Linda Flamewalker
Can has fix for the blackscreen that keeps happening after oh 2 mins making it impossible to play the game? (yes even when run as admin)


I have the same problem with my screen. I have updated all drivers, cleared cache, logged as admin and optemized for performance. Still the dark screen! Come on CCP, it has to be on your end!

Black Dranzer
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.26 04:39:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Farrah Contractor
Currently, on one incursion in Algingtal Constellation, player ship losses are in excess of 3300 ships.
That is just one constellation. There are six other incursions active.
I had a feeling this might happen, at least initially. I'm guessing people have already lost far, far more than they could ever potentially get in the way of rewards. Fortunately, CCP have a good track record of fixing and rebalancing new features in a timelypfftHAHAHAHAHAHAhaaaaa~ sorry I couldn't say that with a straight face.
Originally by: Xantor Bludberry
Do not change anything! It must be difficult. Carebear have to suffer!
What, exactly, do you think the benefit of incursions being obscenely difficult is? If it gets bad enough, it simply locks out entire constellations for however long it does. They could have done that in far simpler and more interesting ways. Also, I remind you that incursions also happen in big manly nullsec.

Usagi Tsukino
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.26 05:06:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: de v
Originally by: Hieronomus
Irregardless ; )


Fun fact: "irregardless" is not, and has never been, a word.

Damn you... I was going to post that.

And dear CCP, please, oh PLEASE don't cave. PLEASE. You have NO IDEA how long I have been waiting for you people to develop some worthwhile PVE. PLEASE, I am begging you, literally on my hands and knees - which is making it really hard to type - don't change anything. My alt wants a challenge!!

And I want to continue to LOL at big blobs of red usually reserved for lowsec and nullsec when I turn the map to 'ships destroyed in the last hour.'

wr3cks
Reliables Inc
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.01.26 05:07:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: 2259
I've begun to keep a file with all of the EVE client bugs I encounter + steps to reproduce, and will eventually throw them at CCP in a forum post. The file so far contains 13 confirmed bugs with verbose descriptions of each:

-rw------- 1 jdc users 3398 25 Jan 17:15 eve_bugs

If folks have other bugs which can be reproduced, please drop me a mail or a note in-game with the steps and once I reproduce it I'll add it to my list. Also, shouldn't the CSMs be doing this job? :D


No.

CCP should do the job of delivering quality product, which means bug-testing and fixing.

The CSM should tell CCP what the players want. The CSM does this, and CCP ignores it because they'd rather make a vampire game. They are not software developers, debuggers, QAers, or anything of the sort.

Gunner Stahl
United Kings
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2011.01.26 05:10:00 - [71]
 

Did someone say stuff?

And where's them patch notes?

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.26 07:32:00 - [72]
 

Offtopic posts removed.


Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.01.26 08:07:00 - [73]
 


Darod Zyree
Gallente
Zyree Holding
Posted - 2011.01.26 08:10:00 - [74]
 

One of the things that is getting fixed is the ability to remove/close the incusion chat window?

Don't enforce chat windows, not being able to close local is bad enough.


Henricus Gaufridus
Amarr
Angry Spaceships
Posted - 2011.01.26 08:53:00 - [75]
 

Pretty PLEASE tell me you're fixing the character creator!

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.26 08:55:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Farrah Contractor
Personally I hope that they re-balance the incursions a little.

Currently, on one incursion in Algingtal Constellation, player ship losses are in excess of 3300 ships.
That is just one constellation. There are six other incursions active.

I've been actively fighting for twelve hours and the hundred of players, losing thousands of ships could not get below 47% Sansha Influence. People are tired and disbanding fleets (Or running out of ships to Leeroy!), and so the influence was back up to 54% when I logged. This is the full might of the player base. Where's the progress?

My personal losses on day 1 were a Navy Mega, Vaga, Firetail and Ishkur.... No big deal for me personally, but my 180K EHP Navy Mega (Trimarked & LG Slave Clone boosted) melted in less than 20 seconds despite logistics in fleet, and that's annoying..

I've seen a Kronos, Navy Apoc and 80% of the supporting 12 person fleet get vaped trying to do a Vanguard site (supposedly at the easier end of the spectrum, for 5-10 people) ... That's a lot of ISK hurting.

The successful fleet I was invovled with was running 5 Logistics out of 20 ships (seriously, you need that many??), and we still lost a ship to too much DPS and insufficient buffer tank.

Added to which, we got shafted on ISK and LP because people came and ghosted through the site in noncombat ships, increasing effective fleet size. (Even though they weren't on overview when we completed the objective, they still must've gotten counted somehow!)

Right now the esprit de corps is high - it's first day and the determination amongst the player base to complete the objective is high. But, we cannot sustain these ship losses forever, and it's not going to be any fun in the long term.

Seriously, WTF CCP?? I hope you're re-balancing the Incursion difficulty in this patch.


Good post!

Indeed, when even a 180K EHP tanked ship, with logistics on it, can't cut it any more, then it's time to rethink a few things.

Actually, I could live with the difficulty staying as high as it is, so long as CCP offers more in the way of fleeting up safely. Yes, there's that carebear word again, 'safely;' but I'm simply not gonna fleet up with strangers until the RR thingy is fixed, because there's always some mentally twelve-year-old jerk who thinks it's fun to get others Concorded.

CCP, if you want to force people to band together (and you went about it in a pretty transparent manner, btw), then you need to offer them a better way of doing so. And no, the Incursions themselves aren't incentive enough: after a few days, when the novelty wears off, or after too many losses, people will simply start docking up (or possibly leave the game). Surely that's not what you had in mind.

Mu'addib
Posted - 2011.01.26 09:01:00 - [77]
 

Patch were very dissatisfied. Having lost several ships to the gate, just jumping over the system, collected a fleet of 20 pilots who have spent a few hours and went through several complexes, but again they are updated in the system, the percentage of capture in the system changed to 97%, but 30 minutes later he again became a 100% so what's the meaning of this whole undertaking?! Do you need that would be 50 pilots 24 hours have passed, these complexes, and if they leave for a few hours, it again becomes 100%. It is a stupid and pointless idea, and who several times has tried to do it, he lost interest and simply flew away to other systems.

Admiral Rufus
Posted - 2011.01.26 09:02:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Ranka Mei
Originally by: Farrah Contractor
Personally I hope that they re-balance the incursions a little.

Currently, on one incursion in Algingtal Constellation, player ship losses are in excess of 3300 ships.
That is just one constellation. There are six other incursions active.

I've been actively fighting for twelve hours and the hundred of players, losing thousands of ships could not get below 47% Sansha Influence. People are tired and disbanding fleets (Or running out of ships to Leeroy!), and so the influence was back up to 54% when I logged. This is the full might of the player base. Where's the progress?

My personal losses on day 1 were a Navy Mega, Vaga, Firetail and Ishkur.... No big deal for me personally, but my 180K EHP Navy Mega (Trimarked & LG Slave Clone boosted) melted in less than 20 seconds despite logistics in fleet, and that's annoying..

I've seen a Kronos, Navy Apoc and 80% of the supporting 12 person fleet get vaped trying to do a Vanguard site (supposedly at the easier end of the spectrum, for 5-10 people) ... That's a lot of ISK hurting.

The successful fleet I was invovled with was running 5 Logistics out of 20 ships (seriously, you need that many??), and we still lost a ship to too much DPS and insufficient buffer tank.

Added to which, we got shafted on ISK and LP because people came and ghosted through the site in noncombat ships, increasing effective fleet size. (Even though they weren't on overview when we completed the objective, they still must've gotten counted somehow!)

Right now the esprit de corps is high - it's first day and the determination amongst the player base to complete the objective is high. But, we cannot sustain these ship losses forever, and it's not going to be any fun in the long term.

Seriously, WTF CCP?? I hope you're re-balancing the Incursion difficulty in this patch.


Good post!

Indeed, when even a 180K EHP tanked ship, with logistics on it, can't cut it any more, then it's time to rethink a few things.

Actually, I could live with the difficulty staying as high as it is, so long as CCP offers more in the way of fleeting up safely. Yes, there's that carebear word again, 'safely;' but I'm simply not gonna fleet up with strangers until the RR thingy is fixed, because there's always some mentally twelve-year-old jerk who thinks it's fun to get others Concorded.

CCP, if you want to force people to band together (and you went about it in a pretty transparent manner, btw), then you need to offer them a better way of doing so. And no, the Incursions themselves aren't incentive enough: after a few days, when the novelty wears off, or after too many losses, people will simply start docking up (or possibly leave the game). Surely that's not what you had in mind.


This is high end pve, its hard ok, with risk comes reward, etc, etc. I'm fairly happy with the culling of carebears,call it Darwinism Twisted Evil

Sinostora
Posted - 2011.01.26 09:07:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Sinostora on 26/01/2011 09:20:44
Edited by: Sinostora on 26/01/2011 09:07:51
I hope you adressed this awful market-lag in jita. Setting a buy-order with the highest price, pressing "okay" and *then* suddenly realizing that someone else entered a higher price a minute ago and it did not show up in your client despite all updating is just extremely frustrating.

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.26 09:24:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Ranka Mei on 26/01/2011 09:24:48
Originally by: Admiral Rufus
I'm fairly happy with the culling of carebears, call it Darwinism Twisted Evil

I think you're confusing Darwinism with jealousy. Most self-proclaimed pirates going off on how easy carebears have it, thus really only profess their own inadequacy at PvP (and the jealousy derived from having a harder time making cash). In fact, all the grand-standing despite, almost all PvpP-ers I know do PvE on the side, to make iskies to fund their dastardly deeds -- whille in public looking down on PvE, of course.

Oh, and you do realize, don't you, that without carebears mining the ores, ere long your shiny ship is going to cost you 10x as much, right? If there's still folks around to build it for you, that is. Really, so often PvP-ers are like six-graders you have to explain that you can't have a viable economy based on just looting and pillaging.

Vuukko Maikkoonen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.26 10:00:00 - [81]
 

Cache-Clearing does not work properly. Everytime the client restarts it produces an error message stating that it cannot clear the cache because there's already in instance of EVE-Online running which i would have to quit first. Only solution to get into the game again is to log off from Windows and to log on again and restart the EVE client.

OS: Win 7 32-bit

herpiderp
Posted - 2011.01.26 10:09:00 - [82]
 

derp

Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.01.26 10:10:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Vuukko Maikkoonen
Cache-Clearing does not work properly. Everytime the client restarts it produces an error message stating that it cannot clear the cache because there's already in instance of EVE-Online running which i would have to quit first. Only solution to get into the game again is to log off from Windows and to log on again and restart the EVE client.

OS: Win 7 32-bit


I have a similar issue but it isnt eve related. Its not EVE which causes your problem its windows, sometimes it locks up folders from being edited or deleted.

One issue i have when the client shuts down is, that i can see the previous screen. My cap, ship, overview .. everything along with my login fields which i cant use.

Darod Zyree
Gallente
Zyree Holding
Posted - 2011.01.26 10:10:00 - [84]
 

Edited by: Darod Zyree on 26/01/2011 10:10:52
Originally by: Ranka Mei
Edited by: Ranka Mei on 26/01/2011 09:24:48
Originally by: Admiral Rufus
I'm fairly happy with the culling of carebears, call it Darwinism Twisted Evil

I think you're confusing Darwinism with jealousy. Most self-proclaimed pirates going off on how easy carebears have it, thus really only profess their own inadequacy at PvP (and the jealousy derived from having a harder time making cash). In fact, all the grand-standing despite, almost all PvpP-ers I know do PvE on the side, to make iskies to fund their dastardly deeds -- whille in public looking down on PvE, of course.

Oh, and you do realize, don't you, that without carebears mining the ores, ere long your shiny ship is going to cost you 10x as much, right? If there's still folks around to build it for you, that is. Really, so often PvP-ers are like six-graders you have to explain that you can't have a viable economy based on just looting and pillaging.


Not many people look down on PVE but on carebearing.

PVE =! carebearing


I agree with:
Originally by: Admiral Rufus
I'm fairly happy with the culling of carebears, call it Darwinism Twisted Evil


Twisted Evil

Vuukko Maikkoonen
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.26 10:17:00 - [85]
 

Edited by: Vuukko Maikkoonen on 26/01/2011 10:24:49
Originally by: Naomi Wildfire
I have a similar issue but it isnt eve related. Its not EVE which causes your problem its windows, sometimes it locks up folders from being edited or deleted.

One issue i have when the client shuts down is, that i can see the previous screen. My cap, ship, overview .. everything
along with my login fields which i cant use.

That may be true, but oddly enough this strange behaviour of the EVE client began after the last patch. When i had redone my character after the patch before, i also had to clear the cache to get the right portrait into EVE, which caused no problems at that time.

Edit: Btw - this problem with its error message is something i can reproduce - it happened yesterday evening and also this morning when Windows was freshly started so i don't think it has something to do with Windows in this case.

Rockette
Amarr
New Eve mining Organisation - MD
New Eve Mining manufacturing Organisation
Posted - 2011.01.26 10:49:00 - [86]
 

Hmmm all good news this patch i hope it real does fix things, sorry many years of play and a sceptical frame of mind ;) When can i read the associated notes?
btw OMG i'm HOT.

Milo Caman
Gallente
Anshar Incorporated
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:03:00 - [87]
 

C'moooon Daytrading Fix.

Heimer
Minmatar
Republic University
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:06:00 - [88]
 

So.... your basic software development process is so broken you can't produce timely patch notes?

Fox Andromeda
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:07:00 - [89]
 

This is simply put, the best eve patch ever. if you dont like the sansha incursions your not playing the right game. you should be playing a game more suited to your age :) one with no moving parts.

shasby
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:20:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Offtopic posts removed.


Please restrict your posts to comments relevant to the patch notes.


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