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StalinGrad6
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:20:00 - [61]
 

touche'

Julianus Soter
Gallente
Moira.
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:39:00 - [62]
 

There's a SYNEPrivate channel? No wonder why I was confused about what the Sansha spies were talking about.

Lemming Alpha1dash1
Lemmings Online
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:45:00 - [63]
 

The Lemmings respect Major JSilva, he has show his courage on the battlefield many times.

We do not involve ourselves in politics but Major will be sorely missed.

thx for putting Soter on our radar we will keep an eye out for him in our roams ugh



Lemmings Online

Arise deBrabant
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:47:00 - [64]
 

Edited by: Arise deBrabant on 26/01/2011 11:53:35
"from Amseln deBrabant (somehow i do not manage to go back my main on forum posts^^)"



Major JSilva, i must say, i am most disgusted by your action here on the IGS and also in command of Synefleet:

1. your FCing of the Tama-Incursion was a disaster. Period.
(i would not brought that up, but your actions here and to make my point clear leaves no choice but to do that)

2. Some days after that disaster you leave Syne and go "neutral", leave the fight to others instead of learning a thing or two out of it. One word: Coward!

3. You even go so far try to disguise/mislead on your incompetence and coward retreat by backstabing one obvious target, Mr Soter. Man.....i am disgusted.


Disclaimer: From what i read on Synepublic i have no trust so far in the ability of Julianus Soter to lead a fleet or even make good decissions on intel we get. So i just not listen to him much and be double careful double if i will fly with/under him. But i have no personal feelings against him.



Jesmine Kyriel
Amarr
House Kyriel Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.26 11:57:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
I'll need a list of every known Nation-loyal or Nation-sympathiser capsuleer individual, corporation and alliance.


This can be arranged. I have spent as much time as I've had available - not much, mind you - on re-making an old list of known Sansha loyalists, I was hoping to properly update it and re-post it.

If you are serious about assisting humanity in stopping this godless plague, then I'll re-double my efforts to have the list returned to the public sooner than it would.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.01.26 15:03:00 - [66]
 

Perhaps...IF the leadership of the SYNE is left to better men or women for that matter, we would be willing to actively lend our support to its goals once again.


Ilfort
Gallente
Moira.
Posted - 2011.01.26 15:25:00 - [67]
 

I'm disappointed in you, Silva.

And if people are that upset with Soter's apparent leadership within SYNE, why don't they just leave? Seriously, please do it. I don't care who you "fly for" providing you're fighting the Sansha.

Kaleigh Doyle
Gallente
Racing News Network
Posted - 2011.01.26 17:38:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
OK.

If people actually want me to do it, I'll... actually do it, I guess.

It's nice to have a reason to keep going.



Andreus, you need to do this because you believe in this, not because people simply want it from you. For what it's worth, some of us never stopped believing in you. Wink

xoxo

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.01.26 17:42:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
OK.

If people actually want me to do it, I'll... actually do it, I guess.

It's nice to have a reason to keep going.


Andreus...you and I have had our differences in the past, but if you lead I would follow.


Caviar Liberta
Gallente
Moira.
Posted - 2011.01.26 18:33:00 - [70]
 

*Looking at his display Caviar leans forward as he waits for the results*

FIO Data Search parameters complete.

Data Analysis Indicates no relevent information present.

Ikarus Gaul
Gallente
Eiffel Initiatives
Posted - 2011.01.26 19:01:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Caviar Liberta
...
FIO Data Search parameters complete.
Data Analysis Indicates no relevent information present.


What would one expect that the Federal Intelligence Office would have to say on a capsuleer political matter?

Oh, that's right... nothing.

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.01.26 20:32:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Are you serious?


Very.

Unit XS365BT
The Synenose Accord
Celestial Imperative
Posted - 2011.01.26 20:42:00 - [73]
 

Edited by: Unit XS365BT on 26/01/2011 20:44:16
Originally by: Ilfort
And if people are that upset with Soter's apparent leadership within SYNE, why don't they just leave?


Evidence indicates that pilot Soter did just this some time ago, when wormhole exploration became at odds to his choice of activities. Pilot Soter left to form Moira, yet refused to pass on leadership of SYNE, this seems illogical.

Furthermore, pilot Soter's leadership style has degraded in recent months, causing many within the channel and loose alliance of anti-nation capsuleers to lose utter confidence in him.

Pilot Soter has personally forced multiple capsuleers who are leaders in the effort against nation to stand down.

Now it is his turn to do so, perhaps this would allow others to rejoin the anti-nation effort.

It is expected that those in Moira would defend pilot Soter and his Ego. However, since pilot Soter leads Moira, not SYNE, perhaps you should request that he choose which he would prefer to lead.

Unit backs this vote of no confidence in the leadership of pilot Soter within the current structure of SYNE.

However much he may have personal feelings about some of us who choose to fight against nation, this is WAR, and he has allowed his personal feelings and actions to aid the enemy, support for such a leader is ill advised.

Even if pilot Soter does not currently aid nation on purpose, he does aid them by the acts he has taken.

Pilot Soter. Step down voluntarily. You are not, and have never been, all of SYNE, this war is larger than even your ego.

We Return.

Major JSilva
Caldari
Oberon Incorporated
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.01.26 21:09:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: Major JSilva on 26/01/2011 21:13:06
Edited by: Major JSilva on 26/01/2011 21:12:20
Edited by: Major JSilva on 26/01/2011 21:10:16
Originally by: Arise deBrabant


Major JSilva, i must say, i am most disgusted by your action here on the IGS and also in command of Synefleet:

1. your FCing of the Tama-Incursion was a disaster. Period.
(i would not brought that up, but your actions here and to make my point clear leaves no choice but to do that)

2. Some days after that disaster you leave Syne and go "neutral", leave the fight to others instead of learning a thing or two out of it. One word: Coward!

3. You even go so far try to disguise/mislead on your incompetence and coward retreat by backstabing one obvious target, Mr Soter. Man.....i am disgusted.




Ms.deBrabant
1. The incursion at Tama had me called primary as syne publci shouted my name as being the FC alonging the enemy to nuetralize my effective command. I told someone to take over and they ordered the fleet out.

2. Have you even bothered to read the orginal post, I have not resigned I stated a loss in confidence in it leader and this issue is now an internal matter for SYNE which is going to be resolved.

3.I dont know how much drugs you've had the past week and I don't wish to know. This has been a problem with SYNE and complaints were recieved. Action was required


Ikarus Gaul
Gallente
Eiffel Initiatives
Posted - 2011.01.26 23:31:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Syn Callibri
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
OK.

If people actually want me to do it, I'll... actually do it, I guess.

It's nice to have a reason to keep going.


Andreus...you and I have had our differences in the past, but if you lead I would follow.




I think Andreus is one of the people I could also get behind, as a leader.

John Revenent
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.01.27 00:19:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: Rytha Main
Originally by: Vikarion
Everyone is for some cause, even if that cause only themselves. But if I were to nominate someone, it would be John Revenent and I-RED.




John Revenent and I-RED is a sound nomination.


I thank you two for the confidence. I am a very busy person though, but if this if this is needed I may be able to find the time.. or perhaps work alongside someone such as Mr. Ixiris.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.01.27 00:31:00 - [77]
 

Originally by: Myxx
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Are you serious?


Very.


I've sent some evemails to get things rolling, but I can't seem to send any to you. Do you have a block-by-default protocol on your inbox, perchance?

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.01.27 01:34:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Originally by: Myxx
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
Are you serious?


Very.


I've sent some evemails to get things rolling, but I can't seem to send any to you. Do you have a block-by-default protocol on your inbox, perchance?

Yes, I do. Sorry, you're now whitelisted. Its to prevent spam.

Math'ra Hiede
Amarr
Trinity's Vanguard
Posted - 2011.01.27 04:15:00 - [79]
 

What an amusing saga.

I continue to hope that somewhere umongst this mess is someone, or some people who have the guts and ability to stand up and make it worth while.

Untill such a time, I think a bit of quite amusement is in order.

Mammal Tafren
Gallente
Intaki Liberation Front
Intaki Prosperity Initiative
Posted - 2011.01.27 06:14:00 - [80]
 

I am very pleased to see Andreus back and with real purpose.

Let me know how I can help.

Rinai Vero
Gallente
Moira.
Posted - 2011.01.27 08:30:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Unit XS365BT


However much he may have personal feelings about some of us who choose to fight against nation, this is WAR, and he has allowed his personal feelings and actions to aid the enemy, support for such a leader is ill advised.

Even if pilot Soter does not currently aid nation on purpose, he does aid them by the acts he has taken.

Pilot Soter. Step down voluntarily. You are not, and have never been, all of SYNE, this war is larger than even your ego.

We Return.


Oh, please. From what I see here, the people who've allowed themselves to be most distracted from the "WAR" by their personal feelings are those continuing to whine about a single pilot's ego. As if anyone's ego ever disengaged the tracking on your guns.

To be fair, Unit, you and I have never interacted privately. I make no premature judgements of your character or intentions. That said, the only time I observed conflict between you and Cmdr. Soter I was not impressed by your judgement. Then, as you are now, you made a hasty and unnecessary accusation that Julianus was purposefully attempting to aid Sansha forces. Your justification was later expressed as "Pilot Soter attempting to end Capsuleer codebreaking attempts during incursion." Never mind that it was after Sansha forces had already withdrawn, and that he was simply expressing his opinion that such efforts were no longer fruitful. Which, as it turned out, was correct in regard to that code intercept.

All of this is pretty much gas through the ramjet for most of us. You, however, are still throwing out accusations of aid and comfort to the enemy. This is the kind of needless bickering that really needs to come to an end.

Sansha incursions are currently fully saturating multiple constellations. Thousands of capsuleer ships have been lost in battles to fight back. However, despite the difficulty of organizing and mounting counterattacks, I have observed SYNE affiliated and FCORD fleets making headway in the Algintal Campaign. Moira forces operating independently were able to defeat multiple Sansha Vanguard incursions, then joined another SYNE affiliated fleet to defeat a Nation Consolidation Network. As I understand it neither of us had managed to successfully assault one of these facilities independently.

Those truly dedicated to gaining the momentum in this conflict should focus more on the fight, and less on this pettiness.

Borza Slavak
Minmatar
Mirkur Draug'Tyr
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.01.27 09:33:00 - [82]
 

I never had any problems with Pilot Soter. He always seemed competent. Most of the complaints here leave me scratching my head.
I suppose completely public groups will always have a lot of drama. One can never please everybody.

Skyreth
Revelation of Wrath
Posted - 2011.01.27 10:18:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Borza Slavak
I never had any problems with Pilot Soter. He always seemed competent. Most of the complaints here leave me scratching my head.
I suppose completely public groups will always have a lot of drama. One can never please everybody.


Maybe one cannot please everyone, however the charges were laid in a manner that does not show that he simply did not manage to please, he instead made the decisions he did for his own gain. A carrier loss and the denial of reinforcements are charges that myself, and my brethren do not look kindly upon.

He has not let himself be seen in the best of lights.

Or perhaps this is just the Nullsec pilot i am talking...I never was the most diplomatic.

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.27 11:31:00 - [84]
 

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