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Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.23 20:15:00 - [1]
 

Very well, let's make this short:

Since returning to my office at space, I have been approached by a certain number of Organizations suggesting that the current Sansha uprising may bring good investment opportunities and add extra digits to our already pompous Sani Sabik wallets.
I'm convinced.

To all Organizations supporting the current Sansha wars, allied of the Nation and Friends, this communiqué may interest you:

As the main representative of the current Sani Sabik banking system, I'm announcing that I have allocated circa of 100 Billion isk investments into Military Organizations which might be interested in the current political aspects of this war, including the possible coming attacks against Concord Forces and capsuleer organizations anti-Sasha.
At first glance, I'm willing to invest into professional organizations and large power blocks outside the Empires, but I'm also considering investments into smaller but military capable organizations, specially those willing to muster forces to gate camps at systems and facilitate Mr. Kuvakei's incursions.

War is profit and profit is Power. If you believe you qualify to receive the financial incentive, contact me by private comm systems leaving a message with your proposal and I'll contact you at my convenience for further details.

RN
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Atandros
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.23 21:10:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
[...] may bring good investment opportunities and add extra digits to our already pompous Sani Sabik wallets.


That word doesn't mean what you think it means, but it makes your sentence starkly, unfortunately accurate.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.23 21:20:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Atandros
Originally by: Revan Neferis
[...] may bring good investment opportunities and add extra digits to our already pompous Sani Sabik wallets.


That word doesn't mean what you think it means, but it makes your sentence starkly, unfortunately accurate.


Ah Atandros! Been quite a while good to see you, elegant as ever.
About the word, concerning the intention of the communiqué, I believe it means what's supposed to mean. Substantial perhaps could be a replacement but I opted for a touch of eccentricity but the accuracy isn't lost there.

And taking the advantage of the reply to add a general note, it has come to my attention that Logistics may also be considered for the investments.
Large Organizations capable of mustering good and solid logistics fleets to join Sansha forces and take care of their repair at high sec space are welcome to contact me.

RN.
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik


Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:33:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Myxx on 23/01/2011 22:38:42
Not really. Just means self-absorbed.

To use smaller words for you, pomposity - ostentation: lack of elegance as a consequence of being pompous and puffed up with vanity.

Not my words, either

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:42:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Myxx
Not really. Just means self-absorbed.


It means whatever I want it to mean. The digits involved with the communication assures me that.

An update to the general matter, I have received your mails and will reply them tonight.

RN
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik

Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:46:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Myxx
Not really. Just means self-absorbed.


It means whatever I want it to mean. The digits involved with the communication assures me that.



No, I'm afraid it really doesn't.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:50:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Myxx
No


Yes.

RN.
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik


Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:52:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Myxx
No


Yes.

RN.
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik




How the so called mighty have fallen. Reduced to bickering with a simple "Yes" when I of all people have caught you with a tragic misuse of language?

Hilarious.

Verone
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:58:00 - [9]
 


What a crock of ****.


Kaizoe Ocshtau
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:59:00 - [10]
 

No, you can't just say that a word means THIS to you when it have a definition already, that is universal and quite agreed on. You can't change facts, but with your origins I should assume that you will just go "this is how I see it, so then it's the universal truth."

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.23 23:00:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Myxx
How the so called mighty have fallen. Reduced to bickering with a simple "Yes" when I of all people have caught you with a tragic misuse of language?

Hilarious.


If that is all my enemies can do I'm quite happy to continue to answer yes. Perhaps that's why my fortunes continues to grow while those worried with "tragic mistakes" are usually the ones who are barely able to survive.
Just a matter of priorities in such cases.

I find it hilarious too, but just because I can afford it.

RN.
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik




Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.01.23 23:14:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Originally by: Myxx
How the so called mighty have fallen. Reduced to bickering with a simple "Yes" when I of all people have caught you with a tragic misuse of language?

Hilarious.


If that is all my enemies can do I'm quite happy to continue to answer yes. Perhaps that's why my fortunes continues to grow while those worried with "tragic mistakes" are usually the ones who are barely able to survive.
Just a matter of priorities in such cases.

I find it hilarious too, but just because I can afford it.



Originally by: Atandros
Originally by: Revan Neferis
[...] may bring good investment opportunities and add extra digits to our already pompous Sani Sabik wallets.


That word doesn't mean what you think it means, but it makes your sentence starkly, unfortunately accurate.


Again... you prove everyone correct, Revan. The sad part, is something you wont be able to prevent and will not see coming until its too late. I was correct many months ago when I estimated that you are infact utterly harmless, and your only method of doing anything is via proxies.

Have fun on your pedastal while it lasts.

Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.01.23 23:18:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/01/2011 23:18:28

Originally by: Myxx
Again... you prove everyone correct, Revan. The sad part, is something you wont be able to prevent and will not see coming until its too late. I was correct many months ago when I estimated that you are infact utterly harmless, and your only method of doing anything is via proxies.


By that logic Nyx class supercarriers are pretty harmless as well since they don't have any form of direct damage beyond limited range smart bombs and those pesky Fighter-bomber proxies. Thats a relief to many in lowsec.




Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.23 23:20:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Myxx
Have fun on your pedastal while it lasts.


Heard that sentence from more relevant lips about 7 years ago. Yet, at each eon my life as capsuleer just improves in all aspects. My enemies fall, my finances grow, my investments prospere, my wars profit and my bed continues to be warm.

So I kind of consider such sentence nowadays as a good luck charm.

RN.
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik


Myxx
Atropos Group
Posted - 2011.01.23 23:24:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Myxx on 24/01/2011 00:11:52
Originally by: Jade Constantine
Edited by: Jade Constantine on 23/01/2011 23:18:28

Originally by: Myxx
Again... you prove everyone correct, Revan. The sad part, is something you wont be able to prevent and will not see coming until its too late. I was correct many months ago when I estimated that you are infact utterly harmless, and your only method of doing anything is via proxies.


By that logic Nyx class supercarriers are pretty harmless as well since they don't have any form of direct damage beyond limited range smart bombs and those pesky Fighter-bomber proxies. Thats a relief to many in lowsec.






No, thats about correct. The ships themselves are platforms for fighters. Not very frightening without said fighters.

I might also add that I find it funny you would consider flying a Nyx, given its a gigantic homage to a scepter used by a King in Gallentean History. A very much loved king, who established the foundations of Democracy.

So much for being anarchists...

Ayari
Caldari
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
The Fourth District
Posted - 2011.01.24 00:25:00 - [16]
 

The problem with being to all intents and purposes immortal, and having to share the company of other immortals is that some of those immortals are insufferable bores... The prospect of eternity listening to your concieted nonsense is enough to drive a capsuleer to drink!

Cheers! I'll see you in space... Oh wait, I won't.


Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.24 00:28:00 - [17]
 


So there beloved, it seems like the my Sani Sabik Faith and wallet and your Anarchist movement were utterly destroyed by this.. mmm relevant individual? who just declared that pompous isn't pompous, supercarriers are irrelevant without fighters and you would consider to fly *horror* a Nyx.
I believe that along the past years our positions have never been so *ahem threatned* by the tragic events presented here.

I demand a meeting inside my chambers now with champagne and kisses so we can discuss our oh so terrible destiny.

*winks

RN.
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik


Jade Constantine
Gallente
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.01.24 00:34:00 - [18]
 


Well nitpicking about the definition of 20,000 year old words is certainly the level for those eager to demonstrate their puissance and verve in rhetorical jousting. Clearly you should sell all stocks and shares and cancel your business interests, these subtle manipulations and IGS antics have you quite undone my love.

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.24 01:10:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

Well nitpicking about the definition of 20,000 year old words is certainly the level for those eager to demonstrate their puissance and verve in rhetorical jousting. Clearly you should sell all stocks and shares and cancel your business interests, these subtle manipulations and IGS antics have you quite undone my love.



Told you... your quote that I use on my signature will never be outdated.
Fortunately.

RN.
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik





Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.24 03:27:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis

Heard that sentence from more relevant lips about 7 years ago. Yet, at each eon my life as capsuleer just improves in all aspects. My enemies fall, my finances grow, my investments prospere, my wars profit and my bed continues to be warm.



Ah, but how many [a]eons do you squeeze into 7 years?

Neither here nor there though, since you fail to apply the correct context. You seem to attempt painting a picture that makes you extraordinary, so here's a few questions about these [a]eons:

Has the lives of your enemies' failed to improve?
Which enemies fell?
Did your enemies' finances decline?
Did their investments flounder?
Did their wars leave them poor?
Are their beds cold?

You presume so much in these sentences, but fail to notice that you are actually just yet another one of us. There's nothing special about you that cannot be said about any half-brained transhuman. You are completely ordinary.

Originally by: Jade Constantine

By that logic Nyx class supercarriers are pretty harmless as well since they don't have any form of direct damage beyond limited range smart bombs and those pesky Fighter-bomber proxies. Thats a relief to many in lowsec.



They are if you have the right counter.
And: Jericho Rocket Raiders. (I hope you will forgive me, it's not strictly applicable but the opportunity was too juicy to leave untapped.)

Originally by: Revan Neferis

So there beloved, it seems like the my Sani Sabik Faith and wallet and your Anarchist movement were utterly destroyed by this.. mmm relevant individual? who just declared that pompous isn't pompous, supercarriers are irrelevant without fighters and you would consider to fly *horror* a Nyx.
I believe that along the past years our positions have never been so *ahem threatned* by the tragic events presented here.



Your "faith and wallet" wasn't destroyed. Nor was Jade's "anarchist movement" (oh, so Jade owns it?). The thing is that neither has to be destroyed, because both are already irrelevant to anyone who does not, of their own free will, decide to partake in it. You see, neither your faith, your money, or an anarchist movement with a genitiv attributed to Jade can do anything to anyone. At least: not anything they'd notice. (And yes, this applies to me as well. The difference is: I do not aspire to change anyone else. I am happy with being myself and having power only over myself. I do not need to artificially boost my ego through any other pretences - most especially since such pretences would be false anyhow.)

You see, to claim power you have to be able to project that power, and this means that the projection has to have a result - preferably one damaging to your enemy. (And not one that merely serves as amusement for your enemy: we know how that went don't we?)

Originally by: Jade Constantine

Well nitpicking about the definition of 20,000 year old words is certainly the level for those eager to demonstrate their puissance and verve in rhetorical jousting.



Yes, it's much easier to win a debate (who keeps a score?) if you get to re-define words.
You use the words, thus you implicitly agree to abide by their meaning. Failure to do so means an abdication from discourse, since no-one would be able to (or willing to) try navigating the maze of new definitions that are continually spawned to cover up linguistic failures.

Language is not nit-picking. It's the medium through which we communicate. If you throw that away, you really do end up irrelevant since no-one can even talk to you.

Oh, and for a snazzy signature:

Tatsue Nuko
Quad-Illustrious Sovereign of Her Own Life
Herself, without need to submit to collectivist herd identifiers.

Spyra Gryra
Cruoris Seraphim
Exalted.
Posted - 2011.01.24 04:32:00 - [21]
 

I think everyone should stop nitpicking. It's boring.

Spyra Gryra
Quintuple-Illustrious Sovereign
Flying Spaceships

Tatsue Nuko
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.24 04:43:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Spyra Gryra

Quintuple-Illustrious Sovereign
Flying Spaceships


I believe you just won. Touché.

The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
Posted - 2011.01.24 08:50:00 - [23]
 

Naturally Jade owns the anarchist movement of which she and I are members. This much is elementary and is not a particularly interesting point on which to focus. Slightly more interesting, though no less elementary, is the fact that she is not the sole owner of the movement.

On scepters and irony, I believe I may refer to the example of the Khumaak and safely say no more with my point amply made.

As for language and history lessons as to its development, I shall simply note that in one of its most ancient senses the term that began this rather peculiar exchange was used perfectly correctly. However, I do grant that the juxtaposition of usage and personality involved has an entertaining dimension.

The Cosmopolite

Stilo Refrin
Posted - 2011.01.24 09:17:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Stilo Refrin on 24/01/2011 09:17:41

Hooch Flux
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.24 09:20:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Originally by: Spyra Gryra

Quintuple-Illustrious Sovereign
Flying Spaceships


I believe you just won. Touché.


Indeed...Laughing

Hooch Flux
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.24 09:24:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
Very well, let's make this short:

Since returning to my office at space, I have been approached by a certain number of Organizations suggesting that the current Sansha uprising may bring good investment opportunities and add extra digits to our already pompous Sani Sabik wallets.
I'm convinced.

To all Organizations supporting the current Sansha wars, allied of the Nation and Friends, this communiqué may interest you:

As the main representative of the current Sani Sabik banking system, I'm announcing that I have allocated circa of 100 Billion isk investments into Military Organizations which might be interested in the current political aspects of this war, including the possible coming attacks against Concord Forces and capsuleer organizations anti-Sasha.
At first glance, I'm willing to invest into professional organizations and large power blocks outside the Empires, but I'm also considering investments into smaller but military capable organizations, specially those willing to muster forces to gate camps at systems and facilitate Mr. Kuvakei's incursions.

War is profit and profit is Power. If you believe you qualify to receive the financial incentive, contact me by private comm systems leaving a message with your proposal and I'll contact you at my convenience for further details.

RN
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik



You know Revan, after nearly five years of reading your most entertaining offerings I have to say I don't believe you when you say you support Kuvakai...

I don't think you support his cause at all, if fact, I think you could care less about it! I think you are just interested in the chaos and pain that he will bring.

Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.24 09:31:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Jade Constantine

Well nitpicking about the definition of 20,000 year old words is certainly the level for those eager to demonstrate their puissance and verve in rhetorical jousting. Clearly you should sell all stocks and shares and cancel your business interests, these subtle manipulations and IGS antics have you quite undone my love.



That's odd, because you've picked similar nits in the past.

Brenya Perircle
Posted - 2011.01.24 09:39:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Revan Neferis
[...] At first glance, I'm willing to invest into professional organizations and large power blocks outside the Empires, but I'm also considering investments into smaller but military capable organizations, [...]


That word should also be militarily. Adverbs, people!

Figured I'd jump on the grammar **** bandwagon while the gettin' was good!

Nikita Alterana
Kumiho's Smile
Posted - 2011.01.24 09:53:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Nikita Alterana on 24/01/2011 09:55:32
I think Tatsue summed things up rather eloquently, and overall your entire post raises the question: Why?

Why post this to Galnet at all?

All it does is hand information to your enemies. Are you so blindly confident in your own infallibility that you can casually post fairly sensitive information to a public forum?

And not only does it hand information to your enemies but...frankly, its nothing but grandstanding. The information would have been much better conveyed behind closed doors, where none of us had to deal with it. By rubbing your money in our faces, you're attempting to prove that you're better then us. That you're still relevant to us.

But frankly...we don't care. Your lesbianism isn't new or edgy. Your support of Sansha Kuvakei doesn't make you feared any more then your capital ships or your finances do. You're a laughing stock, presiding over a pile of dirt and pretending its a mountain. Your enemies laugh at you, your friends mock you behind your back. The only way you can instil loyalty outside the deluded few who worship is by purchasing it.

You're a joke Revan Nefaris. You're an old hag, and you ceased to be relevant ages ago.

And honestly, the more you continue to rub your "success" in our faces, the less we care. You think we give a damn that you have a mountain of isk to swim in or a lover to fall asleep with? We don't. I have the same thing, and yet, I remain completely uncompelled to bring that to the IGS and use it as a weapon in a verbal sparring match. If "Oh yeah, well I have a girlfriend" is really the best retort you can come up with...its pathetic.

However, I'm not deluded enough to think you'll actually respond to this in any form besides twisting my words and trying to turn them against me. But this isn't for you. Its for the rest of the people reading it. Because you know, and I know, and they know that what I've said is the truth; even if you will never admit it.

So to the rest of you, I'm going to offer a bit of advice: Leave. Revan, is only relevant because people read her posts and make them relevant. Ignore her. Let her scream in futility into the night. Let her cries for attention fall on deaf ears. I know I'm not going to pay any further attention to her. Let her find some other medium for her self aggrandising. She only matters as much as anyone lets her.

The Most Decidedly Amazing Nikita Alterana
Octuple-Illustrious Pirate Sovereign of Resounding Awesomeness
free Captain, in the true sense of the word

Revan Neferis
Amarr
Propaganda Due
Posted - 2011.01.24 10:39:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Revan Neferis on 24/01/2011 11:59:23
Originally by: Hooch Flux
I think you are just interested in the chaos and pain that he will bring.


But of course... And profit. But as a Sani Sabik I've made this clear at one of my first communications in this regard.
Is that supposed to be a revelation or something?

Now for the entertainment parts...

Risen angels, forum vermins... not very entertaining,IGS standard... what else we have here...Stimulus ... again? says it all.

Let's see what I can savage here for amusement:

Originally by: Tatsue Nuko
Your "faith and wallet" wasn't destroyed. Nor was Jade's "anarchist movement"


If it depends of the quality of my enemies this sentence will be true forever. Actually no one has helped me to prospere more in this Universe but my enemies. As long as such mindset continues, I'm very pleased, you won't see me crying about coming to my pod to see my wallet increasing digits due to my enemies incompentence. If that's their sense of destroying a capsuleer, please go on...I feel quite destroyed already.

Originally by: Nikita Alterana
...you can casually post fairly sensitive information to a public forum?


Oh my... if you consider this as fairly sensitive information, I feel sorry for you already. Your life must be plain boring for you to consider this post as sensitive information. It's daily business, making profit with wars and resources nothing new to me.

Originally by: Nikita Alterana
Your lesbianism isn't new or edgy.


Priceless!
You all amuse me very much. But now for business, I have replied a few of you by mail yesterday, I'll be booking the meeting for the next 2 days.

RN
Thrice-Illustrious Sovereign
Sani Sabik








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