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D'Katoza
Posted - 2011.01.23 12:12:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: D''Katoza on 23/01/2011 13:57:54
Edited by: D''Katoza on 23/01/2011 12:19:39
Why not, with the strip miners, just have a scanning scanning probe that orbits around the asteroid (lasts 15 mines or 5 cycles), and constantly scans the asteroid. Now there would be areas of concentration within that asteroid, and you would have to keep the laser beam moving to the "hot" areas, while the scanner is constantly scanning and showing new "hot areas" to move to.

These hot areas would influence the mining rate of the strp miners anywhee from -75% of yield to 200% (double) of the yield mentioned on the asteroid. THe scan would look much like the scans of planets in PI now. WHen you deplete an area, justmove te laser to the new hot area. You would have to keep orbiting the asteroid and mining the areas to finally deplete the asteroid, and if you mine a "cold area" for too long, it will just stop giving anything at all. So a good miner would be able to get a maximum of 1080m3 per cycle, and go as low as 135m3 in a cold area of the asteroid. The total amont and asteroid can give could be anywhere from 30-50k units in highsec, to 300k-500k in nullsec.

Of course, the nullsec asterois would be far bigger than the high secs ones, therefore having more hot areas to mine in. To mine an asteroids, first you approach the asteroid. When you get wihin 20km, you can scan the asteroid - this is optional. This gives an early indication of the size, the hotspots available and the rough amount of ore avaialble in the asteroid.

Then you send out your probes from a midslot module. You have the Astrogeological Surveying skill (requires Surveying III, Science III and Mining III, x5 training multiplyer, increases probes x2 per level and mining yield by 5% per level), which allows you to send up to 10 probes out at once. The more probes you send out, the higher the scan resolution, and the better quality hot areas you can reach. After you pick your first hot area, you then begin your lasers your yield will be measured in seconds to keep accurate.

As you deplete your hot area, it's colour begins to change from white, to red, to orange, to yellow, to green, to blue, to black (depleted).
Here are the hot areas:
White - 160%-200%
Orange 120%-160%
Yellow 80%-120%
Green 40%-80%
Light Blue 0%- -40%
Dark Blue - -40%- -80%
Black Depleted

As your hot area depletes, the mining yield goes down, and you must move on to another hot area to keep up the mining yield. You will have to reduce your scan resolution to keep finding the hottest areas once you deplete all obvious ones. Once all ore has been depleted, the asteroid will pop, leaving a possibility of rare ore from the centre of the asteroid. This could be any ore, and amounts ranging from 10-10,000 units.

In this idea, you are hitting many birds with a single stone. You are making mining far more fun and profitable, but also are making it damn hard for the macrominers out there, as it requires a human element to get the most out of mining, instead of the "point and shoot" method now.

So then, over to the general eve forum people, what do you all think of this?


BTW: TYVM to rock crawlermne/NinjaSpud, your post gave me the idea :)

Edit: To help newbies, what you could do, is any character under 20 days old can mine it will be guranteed 100% yield.


Gregnak
Posted - 2011.01.23 19:52:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Gregnak on 23/01/2011 19:52:17
I think its a good idea Very Happy +1

Goose99
Posted - 2011.01.23 20:01:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Gregnak
Edited by: Gregnak on 23/01/2011 19:52:17
I think its a good idea Very Happy +1


Aww... you alt thinks your convoluted scheme is a good idea.Cool

Venkul Mul
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.23 20:09:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: D'Katoza

In this idea, you are hitting many birds with a single stone. You are making mining far more fun and profitable, but also are making it damn hard for the macrominers out there, as it requires a human element to get the most out of mining, instead of the "point and shoot" method now.

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Edit: To help newbies, what you could do, is any character under 20 days old can mine it will be guranteed 100% yield.




What human element?

Recognizing colors? bots can do that (not macro).

Changing mined area? idem

Increasing scanning resolution? idem

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Yield measured every second? The server work in 1 second ticks. You will had a lot of load.

How mining drones will work? you can't aim them.

Speaking of that aiming the mining lasers/stripminers to specifics spots will require a complete overhauling of the interface, player and serverside. So a lot of programmer time and money.








amarian arch
Posted - 2011.01.23 21:43:00 - [5]
 

the only solution for macro miners are creepers

Gregnak
Posted - 2011.01.23 22:52:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Goose99
Originally by: Gregnak
Edited by: Gregnak on 23/01/2011 19:52:17
I think its a good idea Very Happy +1


Aww... you alt thinks your convoluted scheme is a good idea.Cool



I'm not is alt i don't even now him so don't presume

Admiral Leviathan
Posted - 2011.01.25 02:37:00 - [7]
 

it is also easier for gankers to find such miners deep inside the "optimal mining yield UI". +1 for the tears generator

heyItradestuff
Posted - 2011.01.25 03:52:00 - [8]
 

kinda like the idea
but would do almost nothing to kill bots.

DrDooma
Posted - 2011.01.25 05:39:00 - [9]
 


q) what do you have against mining bots? why not have auto-mine button just like we have for auto-pilot


 

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