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Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.21 20:50:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:31
Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 20:53:06
I was going to answer to a subject, not create a new one, yet I managed to mess up and here we are so I'll take this opportunity to whine a bit.

Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are.

It doesn't feel right. Perhaps this will change later on with scars and piercings, but there's only as much accessories can do.

Mirabi Tiane
Posted - 2011.01.21 20:58:00 - [2]
 

Most capsuleers only murder from afar, while floating safe and naked in a pod full of goo.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.01.21 20:58:00 - [3]
 

This almost sounds like a..."Should I wear a suit or sweats to my trial?"...question.



Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.21 20:59:00 - [4]
 

Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:00:20
Originally by: Mirabi Tiane
Most capsuleers only murder from afar, while floating safe and naked in a pod full of goo.

Yes. You are a funny guy. Pathetic, but funny. Okay: Probably more pathetic and violently stupid, but that's kind of funny.

Originally by: Syn Callibri
This almost sounds like a..."Should I wear a suit or sweats to my trial?"...question.




No. It doesn't. We look way too clean. Perhaps you dig it - I have no problem with that! I'm just looking for opinions because it just feels weird looking so clean, although of course this is better than an astronaut suit, but two wrongs doesn't make a right.

Kuhn Arashi
Caldari
Wrecking Shots
Posted - 2011.01.21 20:59:00 - [5]
 

Its people choosing to look like that.
you can make yourself have some character if you really want.

besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really.

Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore
they are part of the elite of the universe.

Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:02:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Kuhn Arashi
Its people choosing to look like that.
you can make yourself have some character if you really want.

besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really.

Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore
they are part of the elite of the universe.


It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist.

Nemesis Factor
Caldari
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:05:00 - [7]
 

The average capsuleer's skin is, what, weeks old? We die so often we get to keep baby smooth skin our entire lives.

Also, pod goo is good for the pores.

Kuhn Arashi
Caldari
Wrecking Shots
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:06:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Mijano
Originally by: Kuhn Arashi
Its people choosing to look like that.
you can make yourself have some character if you really want.

besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really.

Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore
they are part of the elite of the universe.


It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist.


I get a slight hint of racism from this. ugh

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:08:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Mijano
Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are.

Hey it's just a layer of make-up you're looking at .. any idea how much time it takes to work away those scars with the best primer? No? ugh

Whitehound
The Whitehound Corporation
Frontline Assembly Point
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:08:00 - [10]
 

Think about this: Where does a new clone get its scaring from?!? If your clone was cheap and has got scarring then it is probably second-hand.

Spinejuicer
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:10:00 - [11]
 

Fresh clones looking fresh? Who'da thunk it!

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:12:00 - [12]
 

Why would we look any different just because we're "hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf-"?

Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:12:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:15:23
Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:13:54
Edited by: Mijano on 21/01/2011 21:12:25
Originally by: Kuhn Arashi
Originally by: Mijano
Originally by: Kuhn Arashi
Its people choosing to look like that.
you can make yourself have some character if you really want.

besides covered in pod goo isn't all that glamorous really.

Aside from that, even the lowest pod pirate is still a pod pilot and per the lore
they are part of the elite of the universe.


It doesn't feel as if I can. I honestly don't know how I'll change my Brutor without looking even more like Jay-Z, 2pac or random American rap-artist.


I get a slight hint of racism from this. ugh

I don't really have a response to this. All you need to know is that I'm not a racist, and that I don't want to look like a rap artist when I drive my Hurricane. Right now I don't. If I change my character I will.

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Originally by: Mijano
Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are.

Hey it's just a layer of make-up you're looking at .. any idea how much time it takes to work away those scars with the best primer? No? ugh

Actually I don't!

Originally by: Tippia
Why would we look any different just because we're "hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf-"?

Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war.

EDIT: Your theory about the clones might actually work for me logic-wise.

Forum Guy
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:14:00 - [14]
 

Edited by: Forum Guy on 21/01/2011 21:25:16


Originally by: Whitehound
Think about this: Where does a new clone get its scaring from?!? If your clone was cheap and has got scarring then it is probably second-hand.


There's another way of looking at that, clones are fairly bland so they pay for scaring to be added just to give them character. Or they wish to keep a previous scar by making arrangements for it to be added to the replacement clone.

If we assume that we stay in the pod until death then we would get no scaring. But as the intention is to walk around stations then we can assume that is not the case.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:23:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Mijano
Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war.
So do pilots when properly dolled up for a professional photo session.

I'm just not seeing the causal connection you're assuming here.

Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:27:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Mijano
Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war.
So do pilots when properly dolled up for a professional photo session.

I'm just not seeing the causal connection you're assuming here.

Okay. I'll buy that we would look better taking our pilot-photo, or whatever.

This theory does only work if we look more worn out when we engage in 3D-environments later on.

Of course the clone-theory works as well ... Yet I can't say I'm a big fan of this, but it's not like I can do much about it. I just hope that later on with additions it will become more realistic or whatever.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:30:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/01/2011 21:32:40

Originally by: Mijano

Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war.



Correction...I do not
a) look kind
b)am not smiling
c) look like a soldier
d) look like my nose was broken at some point
e) have a scar on my lip and left cheek.

In short...you're wrong.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.



Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:36:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Syn Callibri
Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/01/2011 21:32:40

Originally by: Mijano

Well, we look like kind, smiling models, not like pilots engaging in empire war.



Correction...I do not
a) look kind
b)am not smiling
c) look like a soldier
d) look like my nose was broken at some point
e) have a scar on my lip and left cheek.

In short...you're wrong.

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.




If you recall I paid you a compliment about how soldiery you looked, but perhaps I'm just not that rememberable.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:38:00 - [19]
 

Edited by: Syn Callibri on 21/01/2011 21:39:55

I remember...and my "ear...yes ear" is too big. I just disagree with your generalization...thats all.


LaneHacker
Band of Freelancers
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:53:00 - [20]
 

Do you see me smiling mother ****er?!! Evil or Very Mad

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Badger Molester
The Greater Goon
Clockwork Pineapple
Posted - 2011.01.21 21:59:00 - [21]
 

Some of us just take pride in our appearance!

Blackjack Turner
Caldari
State Protectorate
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:00:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: LaneHacker
Do you see me smiling mother ****er?!! Evil or Very Mad

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.


I was gonna comment on the OP, but this guy says it all. Nuff said YARRRR!!

Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:23:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: LaneHacker
Do you see me smiling mother ****er?!! Evil or Very Mad

Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

It was kind of unnecessary of you to call me that, but I will agree that your picture is indeed very good.

Alhambra Rainwalker
Caldari
Innera Holiday Resorts
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:32:00 - [24]
 

Edited by: Alhambra Rainwalker on 21/01/2011 22:48:17
Although expressions are bit limited atm, you can definitely get some emotion in your pictures if you take your time. Or you can look like a hideous troll if you fail. Laughing
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

Florestan Bronstein
24th Imperial Crusade
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:48:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 21/01/2011 22:50:28

play with the values for age, scarring, ... and you can arrive at a more realistic look.

Also consider lightning - many people seem to use very bright lightning on their portraits (which can make small imperfections even less visible ... or highlight more accentuated ones).

Have a look at the picture for this character (link to big version) - the wrinkles seem to be too strong and he could have a little more freckles but apart from that I am quite happy with him.

I think many people think "OMG I don't want to look like I am 80 with freckles and scars all over my face" and ignore the aging options completely while still trying to go for a somewhat mature look - most 20-something year olds I know IRL have more skin imperfections than the average 10-30 years older EVE avatar.

Hans Jagerblitzen
Autocannons Anonymous
Posted - 2011.01.21 23:30:00 - [26]
 

Part of the reason that everyone looks clean and polished is that I highly suspect that OUR AVATARS OUR NOT YET FINALIZED.

"As we expect very high number of characters to be created in the initial days after launch, we might decide to use lower quality textures for the portraits while getting over the initial tsunami of characters, but then redo them in higher quality in the days thereafter."

I think that what we see currently in-game and in forums is NOT what the system is capable of rendering, so even people's do-over avatars will be changed AGAIN once CCP gets around to rendering them.

If anyone can confirm or deny this, it would be greatly appreciated! I've petitioned with CCP for an answer, but only get canned responses...




Horizonist
Yulai Guard 2nd Fleet
Yulai Federation
Posted - 2011.01.21 23:31:00 - [27]
 

You are assuming all capsuleers are "evil", some of us arent, and we are fine looking like good guys.

Carnella
Posted - 2011.01.21 23:48:00 - [28]
 

I've been wondering, myself, why so many avatars end up looking plastic or airbrushed. I guess it's people going for a high level of light intensity and not using any of the complexion textures to compensate. I've done three characters in the new creator, and they've all come out looking almost photorealistic, I think.

To take issue with one thing you've said, though, my character isn't a soldier. She's more of an explorer, really, though in any case, I don't think there's any requirement to be a murderous mutant just because you fly a spaceship.

Cathy Drall
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.01.21 23:54:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Cathy Drall on 21/01/2011 23:54:42
Originally by: Mijano
Don't you guys think it's kind of ridiculous the way we look? So clean and so ... model-like, instead of the hardcore, murderous, violent, mutant motherf- we are.

It doesn't feel right. Perhaps this will change later on with scars and piercings, but there's only as much accessories can do.

I don't recall 7 of 9 looking very bad for a merciless space conqueror? Razz

Next to that: you don't have to look evil to commit evil deeds.

Guillame Herschel
Gallente
NME1
Posted - 2011.01.22 00:01:00 - [30]
 

Edited by: Guillame Herschel on 22/01/2011 00:01:37
Originally by: Mijano
No. It doesn't. We look way too clean. Perhaps you dig it - I have no problem with that! I'm just looking for opinions because it just feels weird looking so clean, although of course this is better than an astronaut suit, but two wrongs doesn't make a right.


When you recreate your avatar, play with the three sliders under Complexion. The "scarring" slider on a low setting adds subtle things like remnant acne pock marks and shaving bumps to male faces. At higher settings the scars become more prominent. At the highest setting you get Adama-face!


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