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Jeddeita
Minmatar
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:30:00 - [181]
 

If your that miffed with the bug's get on SiSi help with the testing. Simple really, CCP can't possibly QA every eventuality.

Petunia666
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:31:00 - [182]
 

Catch the rainbow if you can
It will always be ahead of you
Years passing swifter than you ever thought
Today will soon be behind you
and the future remains out of reach

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:31:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: Derek Vanzant
Edited by: Derek Vanzant on 21/01/2011 12:50:42
Oh would you quit complaining about the downtimes already! Sounds like a bunch of children whining... If you want to express you displeasure about how poorly CCP handles things, heres what you do:
Write it on paper. Get an envelope. Seal it in the envelope...
Now, heres the difficult bit... Think! Think if the letter really has any valuable knowledge or expresses any opinions that might be viewed as -USEFUL- critisism. IF you really think the info is useful, then mail the letter. If not, then throw the letter in the trash. Simple, eh?

Think before you write... it is difficult, I know. Especially with internet since today its more about useless brainfarts rather than actually writing something useful.

Anyhow, all your whining and crying were succesfull, they made me rage. Nothing is more fun than trying to read something useful about a patching post only to find that its 4 pages of children crying.


SorryVery Happy ...I thought about it and decided that your rant was just as worthless

.... so i didn't finish reading it

Tax Stimulus
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:31:00 - [184]
 

Never thought I'd get to the last page of this thread..

I pays me money and I takes me chances...

I just went thru the login process so I went thru all the pages from the front - I never saw anything but 1400 UTC. Can I buy a clue to the reference for it changing 1600 and then to 1800?

Geez - chill out! Focus on your happy place... and if that is Jita - get help NOW!

I'll just stroll over the Bad Company 2 and stab a few folks for their dag tags. I'll be back later because my well being does not sally forth from pixels

OMG, I hope they added Peanut and Jelly sandwiches to the Character Creator!! ohhh, prolly will still have the crusts.... CCP!!!

Cid Cahlahan
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:32:00 - [185]
 

Originally by: Petunia666
Originally by: Cid Cahlahan
Must admit I'm alittle Piddled off with this patch.

I work early mornings so I thought of putting skills on untill after I finished would be alright. I log on and find its down for a patch, the Entry on the news Posted by CCP Fallout was at 12 mins past midnight the day of the patch =( Some of us are asleep by then. By all means patch the server but at least give us fair warning to put long skills on, especially with a patch thats had known issues before hand!


U must be new here.


Actually an older player of nearly 7 years and I have to say this is the first time I've had a problem with them telling us so late with something like this. 1/2 way into Thursday I could understand but when they themselves work on UTC Time, alittle past midnight is alittle late to warn anyone in the same timezone, isn't it?

Still rather annoyed that this is all because people didn't take their time and actually look at what was going on. The new charactergen isn't rocket science and I thought the 4 snapshots was a nifty idea. Not like it isn't hard to tell which of the four you were selecting.


Ghost Bringer
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:32:00 - [186]
 

Originally by: ENYOFACE
THIS IS NOW A WIDOT THREAD!

A What?

MoondogSpot
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:32:00 - [187]
 

Originally by: Mad Maulkin
Originally by: MoondogSpot
Originally by: Mad Maulkin
Originally by: ReconRoach
btw eve runs on utc or gmt either way u look at it.. so that time is constent and doesn't change with daylight savings..Very Happy


Time is a constant?? Shocked i boggle at the consept Very Happy
LaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughingLaughing


its today today tomorrow, tomorrow is today yesterday, while yesterday is tomorrow today
(70's funk music ) BAM CHIKA BOW WOW BAM CHIKA BOW WOW

Craig xxx
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:32:00 - [188]
 

Training "Advance Wasting Time Lvl 5"

d3athmane
Caldari
Distinguished Gentleman's Boating Club
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:32:00 - [189]
 

I wonder if its just a terribad in irc as it is in this thread.

Lucy Moran
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:33:00 - [190]
 

Edited by: Lucy Moran on 21/01/2011 13:33:18
When can We startQuestion

Hydraka
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:33:00 - [191]
 

Originally by: Craig xxx
Training "Advance Wasting Time Lvl 5"


Training 'Wasting my only free afternoon this week before a very busy week' lvl 5 Evil or Very Mad

Isis Furion
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:33:00 - [192]
 

Originally by: NiteassassinX
Originally by: Isis Furion
Just wanted to give a quick shout out to the staff of CCP for hearing our concerns regarding character creation and implementing a speedy and comprehensive solution.

Much appreciated.




Sorry to say but the shout out can only come when they can release a patch that work properly the first time and there isn't a new to keep patching every 3 days. Ie in 5 days there another patch. then more likely that patch will be patch 2 to 3 times after. Great ppl they are but...


For a progressive online game of such enormous complexity.
For the myriad of different and often antiquated platforms they have to consider.
For the time pressure placed on the developers to meet their deadlines.
For the transliteration problems in the documentation that would assure that every person of every language comes away with the same meaning...
and most of all for their willingness to take decisive action when it is clear they didn't get it right....I say cheers.

Not being an apologist here just keeping it real.

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:33:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Ghost Bringer
You all seem to have some reality problems here, I suggest many of you grow up and get a life. If you are adult, then perhaps consider getting a shrink to explain the difference between games and real life.

If you cant play the game before you go to work, do something else. If its your day off, do something else, if your retired, wealthy and lonley, DO SOMETHING ELSE.

Its EvE.

Before any downtime, add a long skill to your training queue, it doesn't matter what skill you take out. Its Eve, things will change.

If your in a dispute, dock up, log out, and turn on the television, grab a cola and investigate the palms of your hands for hairs. It doesn't matter, it is Eve.

If you are waiting for a fault to be fixed, assume the worst, expect to be dissapointed and relax, it is Eve. Good things will come as a pleasant surprise.

If you know you could do a better job than the devs, apply to CCP, put up, or shut up, complaining about things done by others makes you look like a pratt. Its Eve, live with it.

If you know of a fault and they have not fixed it, again, then it is a low priority for some one, accept it. Your priorities are not their priorities, is Eve, learn it.

Above all people, it is a game, and the only reason you play it is because a Company called CCP is making a return on investment by some financial speculators who happen to own the Company. Their only aim is to make a buck and pay the bills, your opinions, complaints and whinges mean little or nothing to them. Get with the program.

If you have some thing positive to add to the already filled plates of the managers, designers, design teams, creators, server techs, customer support techs and those in HR that are trying to hold it all together, guess what, a whinging blog thread is not the place to express it.

If you don't like what I have suggested, I don't care because guess what, It Is Eve, it is a GAME, it is NOT REAL.

Razz


And if you have a sudden urge to write this long post about complainers ..... do something else

Mad Maulkin
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:33:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Tax Stimulus
Never thought I'd get to the last page of this thread..

I pays me money and I takes me chances...

I just went thru the login process so I went thru all the pages from the front - I never saw anything but 1400 UTC. Can I buy a clue to the reference for it changing 1600 and then to 1800?

Geez - chill out! Focus on your happy place... and if that is Jita - get help NOW!!!!!!

I'll just stroll over the Bad Company 2 and stab a few folks for their dag tags. I'll be back later because my well being does not sally forth from pixels

OMG, I hope they added Peanut and Jelly sandwiches to the Character Creator!! ohhh, prolly will still have the crusts.... CCP!!!


Ahahahahaaaa

Radakos
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:34:00 - [195]
 

cheking status!! will we get our eve at the time given to us?

Wyte Ragnarok
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:34:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: GraphisoDavinci
Man you people complain a lot.

Situation 1) You are eating up all my game time! I only had 4 hours to play and you ate it all..
So what? Get a life, if they didnt do fixes etc. you would be complaining about that you cant play this game like this etcetc. For the money you pay, you get a lot of game time. Go do something productive while they do patches.

Situation 2)You didnt announce it on time You MOFO's! I made plans for eve!
So what? Again if they dont apply the fixes or patches quickly enough you would complain again. And dude/dudettes, it is just a game go play an arcade game at the arcade hall or something (or perhaps go do some fitness!)

Situation 4) The patch notes are not clear...I cant find them...they are in green? I don't understand?!
Who cares?!Ok, CCP could put a simply line in their patch notes like : green text are patches for 1.1.1 or something. But please.. get a life and stop complaining about it.

Situation 5) All the other complaining about CCP are usually pretty childish and not well put. People say stuff like chasing $$ instead of making a quality product...rubbish, Eve Online is a good game and you know they try to make it better. Look at the game :) Why do you play it? Cause you love it! Also why o why continue to complain? Put some constructive feedback on here and not cry over time you cant play? Send in bug reports, send in game suggestions etcetc but stop crying.

Accept it: Any company that introduces a new phone, game, update,patch will face bugs and will have to fix it. CCP Does. End of discussion. Now go play with your kids, pets, gf's, phones, hair, feet or just watch the screen here and wait for eve online to come back online :) Oh and a heads up : New Patches, New Bugs WILL COME AGAIN! Some day...Maybe not today.. or tomorrow..but some day...



Learn to count. Then come back and you may have an opinion :')

Planetology
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:34:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: ihcn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAI800frWGY

lmao

CooganV4
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:35:00 - [198]
 

Originally by: Fluxsource
Originally by: bitman
Edited by: bitman on 21/01/2011 13:21:39
Originally by: ReconRoach
btw eve runs on utc or gmt either way u look at it.. so that time is constent and doesn't change with daylight savings..Very Happy


UTC has no daylight saving time GMT does


You have failed to understand Time Zones. The only changes applied to UTC are to do with leap seconds and keeping it in sync with the rotation of the earth not being exactly 24hrs, and similarly for the year. GMT is the same. GMT does not have daylight savings applied to it. Ever. Anywhere at all. GMT is always GMT, ie, UTC+0. That has always been the case.

Please re-read the above paragraph and lean.

Now read it again. I cannot emphasise this enough- GMT does not change.

HOWEVER

The UK (and other countries) do have a daylight savings scheme. Here, the UK changes their clocks use British Summer Time, or BST. This is UTC+1, GMT+1, Alpha (military) or "an hour ahead", however you want to call it.

But, and this is really the crucial part, GMT does not change. Other countries outside of the UK use GMT. They do not have a daylight saving scheme. They do not adjust their clocks when the UK switches to BST.

CCP do not use a daylight savings scheme. Therefore they still use UTC/GMT for advertising their timings. If you use a daylight savings scheme where you live, you'll need to apply that to any calculations you do. If you don't use one, you don't.

Simples.

Any questions?


Yes, Great explanation btw.

Why does Downtime always present Eve players with this minor mental challenge? Adn why do people argue over time.

Its Simple guys. Lets move on.

Ganks Alot
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:35:00 - [199]
 

Originally by: ihcn
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YAI800frWGY



HA!

Mad Maulkin
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:35:00 - [200]
 

Edited by: Mad Maulkin on 21/01/2011 13:37:51
Originally by: Phigmeta
Originally by: Ghost Bringer
You all seem to have some reality problems here, I suggest many of you grow up and get a life. If you are adult, then perhaps consider getting a shrink to explain the difference between games and real life.

If you cant play the game before you go to work, do something else. If its your day off, do something else, if your retired, wealthy and lonley, DO SOMETHING ELSE.

Its EvE.

Before any downtime, add a long skill to your training queue, it doesn't matter what skill you take out. Its Eve, things will change.

If your in a dispute, dock up, log out, and turn on the television, grab a cola and investigate the palms of your hands for hairs. It doesn't matter, it is Eve.

If you are waiting for a fault to be fixed, assume the worst, expect to be dissapointed and relax, it is Eve. Good things will come as a pleasant surprise.

If you know you could do a better job than the devs, apply to CCP, put up, or shut up, complaining about things done by others makes you look like a pratt. Its Eve, live with it.

If you know of a fault and they have not fixed it, again, then it is a low priority for some one, accept it. Your priorities are not their priorities, is Eve, learn it.

Above all people, it is a game, and the only reason you play it is because a Company called CCP is making a return on investment by some financial speculators who happen to own the Company. Their only aim is to make a buck and pay the bills, your opinions, complaints and whinges mean little or nothing to them. Get with the program.

If you have some thing positive to add to the already filled plates of the managers, designers, design teams, creators, server techs, customer support techs and those in HR that are trying to hold it all together, guess what, a whinging blog thread is not the place to express it.

If you don't like what I have suggested, I don't care because guess what, It Is Eve, it is a GAME, it is NOT REAL.

Razz



And if you have a sudden urge to write this long post about complainers ..... do something else


And i like how you look like an old roman senator in your picture there Very Happy

Phigmeta
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:35:00 - [201]
 

Originally by: Petunia666
Catch the rainbow if you can
It will always be ahead of you
Years passing swifter than you ever thought
Today will soon be behind you
and the future remains out of reach


I have this sudden urge to club a seal now .... thanks

Melanie Davinci
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:35:00 - [202]
 



Originally by: Draco Hart
Originally by: GraphisoDavinci
Man you people complain a lot.

Situation 1) You are eating up all my game time! I only had 4 hours to play and you ate it all..
So what? Get a life, if they didnt do fixes etc. you would be complaining about that you cant play this game like this etcetc. For the money you pay, you get a lot of game time. Go do something productive while they do patches.

Situation 2)You didnt announce it on time You MOFO's! I made plans for eve!
So what? Again if they dont apply the fixes or patches quickly enough you would complain again. And dude/dudettes, it is just a game go play an arcade game at the arcade hall or something (or perhaps go do some fitness!)

Situation 4) The patch notes are not clear...I cant find them...they are in green? I don't understand?!
Who cares?!Ok, CCP could put a simply line in their patch notes like : green text are patches for 1.1.1 or something. But please.. get a life and stop complaining about it.

Situation 5) All the other complaining about CCP are usually pretty childish and not well put. People say stuff like chasing $$ instead of making a quality product...rubbish, Eve Online is a good game and you know they try to make it better. Look at the game :) Why do you play it? Cause you love it! Also why o why continue to complain? Put some constructive feedback on here and not cry over time you cant play? Send in bug reports, send in game suggestions etcetc but stop crying.

Accept it: Any company that introduces a new phone, game, update,patch will face bugs and will have to fix it. CCP Does. End of discussion. Now go play with your kids, pets, gf's, phones, hair, feet or just watch the screen here and wait for eve online to come back online :) Oh and a heads up : New Patches, New Bugs WILL COME AGAIN! Some day...Maybe not today.. or tomorrow..but some day...


where is 3???Shocked


Its a secret :)

Bexar Yang
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:36:00 - [203]
 

Hmmm. 4 of 9 characters need Character Creator repairs. Should I do it this week or wait til they go back to the old character creator?

Flyberius
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:37:00 - [204]
 

Originally by: Phigmeta
And if you have a sudden urge to write this long post about complainers ..... do something else


He has some very valid points. Even if they are all the same one.

I doubt most of the complainers have anyone relying on them for anything.

Its good to get it off your chest anyway, which is what this chap did.

Most of the time I will write out a long rant. Then delete it as I have cooled off. This guy got one step further. Hats off to him.

Molokan4 Itinen
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:37:00 - [205]
 

Beside all does not work repair.exe?

MoondogSpot
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:37:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: Tax Stimulus
Never thought I'd get to the last page of this thread..

I pays me money and I takes me chances...

I just went thru the login process so I went thru all the pages from the front - I never saw anything but 1400 UTC. Can I buy a clue to the reference for it changing 1600 and then to 1800?

Geez - chill out! Focus on your happy place... and if that is Jita - get help NOW!

I'll just stroll over the Bad Company 2 and stab a few folks for their dag tags. I'll be back later because my well being does not sally forth from pixels

OMG, I hope they added Peanut and Jelly sandwiches to the Character Creator!! ohhh, prolly will still have the crusts.... CCP!!!
LOL i think i piddled ABIT FROM THIS ONE Evil or Very Mad

Ergion Thorn
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:37:00 - [207]
 

Originally by: RaTTuS
Originally by: bitman
Edited by: bitman on 21/01/2011 13:21:39
Originally by: ReconRoach
btw eve runs on utc or gmt either way u look at it.. so that time is constent and doesn't change with daylight savings..Very Happy


UTC has no daylight saving time GMT does

facepalm,
It does not


3 will come with the patch

Radakos
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:37:00 - [208]
 

THIS IS NOW A WIDOT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dasola
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:38:00 - [209]
 

Originally by: Jeddeita
If your that miffed with the bug's get on SiSi help with the testing. Simple really, CCP can't possibly QA every eventuality.


ok, you clearly have not played eve much. All evidence points out ccp dosent even listen feedback from testers. Otherwise that damn character would stand still in creation window. Yes, testers told ccp its annoying that it keeps jerking when you try to adjust face.... What did ccp do? Ignore feedback.


Mrs Zor
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:39:00 - [210]
 

Originally by: Radakos
THIS IS NOW A WIDOT THREAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


Such a big post for someone with such a small head. stfu


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