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 Captain Fortune |
Posted - 2011.01.20 21:34:00 - [ 151]
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 AterraX Caldari |
Posted - 2011.01.20 21:38:00 - [ 152]
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 Mel Lifera Gallente Ambrye Logistics Ltd. |
Posted - 2011.01.20 23:01:00 - [ 153]
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 Peik deLeaf Caldari |
Posted - 2011.01.20 23:47:00 - [ 154]
Originally by: Zidphria Mouritas /signed
I just finished telling a few friends how GREAT carbon is at creating TODAY humans, but absolutely does not capture the super-future-space essence of the EVE universe.
What do you expect humans to look like some 25000 years into the future? |
 Pachink0 |
Posted - 2011.01.20 23:54:00 - [ 155]
i picked caldari monk to look like an opportunistic business man.
now my only choices result in a square jawed meatstick that vaguely resembles something asian |
 Aldarica Spinal Discipline |
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:16:00 - [ 156]
After seeing all these threads flooding the forums I'm 100% sure that Incarna/WiS (or whatever called atm) will be gargantuan success for EVE. Let alone new faces, it's going to drag back more old bitter vets than all previous expansions combined. Because it turned out that this playerbase finds their avatar's look & style to be much more important than anyone could ever imagine.
Internet spaceships cannot really compete with "dress up your Barbie". |
 Zofe Stormcaller B4D W0LF B4D W01F |
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:17:00 - [ 157]
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 Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears |
Posted - 2011.01.21 12:37:00 - [ 158]
Yes, fifth element style wouldn't be the "eve" we are looking for, but it still had the idea of a setting and future in it. With firely you have spaceships and cowboys?! That's just stupid unless there is some sort of timetravel included (which there isn't).
Eve is in the future and not in the history. That still doesn't mean a robe shouldn't be a robe. I do think that one should always see the race or the player my just looking at the clothes, because they are who they are. Of course it becomes tricky when you have people who aren't really race oriented. Then you should have the clothes we have NOW in the new editor. Feels like we have the transgenderrace outfit range in the editor at the moment.
We need more option and more RACE specific options so that those players can make individually looking avatars inside their own race. Otherwise you get this "all the amarrians look the same" thing going on. At the moment we have this "everyone has the same clothes" thing. We need clothes and color choices including material choices (glossy, matte, mesh, plastic, cloth). To get some real variety in there. You have like 65k pilots here...and like twenty different choices. |
 Freya Gleamingstar Amarr Shrike County
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Posted - 2011.01.21 12:43:00 - [ 159]
I expect that once you can walk around with your Avatar - whole new wardrobes will be available to buy. Just had a scary thought, for anyone that remembers the Tailor profession from SWG....... Hell, going to start stockpiling PI Synthetic Fibers now  |
 Lynx Australis Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:33:00 - [ 160]
Originally by: Pa*****0 i picked caldari monk to look like an opportunistic business man.
now my only choices result in a square jawed meatstick that vaguely resembles something asian
Yeah. Where are the old characters? Where are the asian looks? Where is the fat intaki guy? Where is the sexy achura chick? All we got was [insertracehere]american plastic freaks who are all same height and all look like cloned. |
 Jolli Mon |
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:34:00 - [ 161]
Meh....fashion emo is overrated. I fully expect new clothing to be available with WIS. It will be a new trade with billions and billions of iskies moving around. |
 Corp Jester |
Posted - 2011.01.21 13:35:00 - [ 162]
Originally by: Peik deLeaf What do you expect humans to look like some 25000 years into the future?
Barbie and Ken... |
 Lynx Australis Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.01.21 13:37:00 - [ 163]
Originally by: Pa*****0 i picked caldari monk to look like an opportunistic business man.
now my only choices result in a square jawed meatstick that vaguely resembles something asian
Yeah. where is the old asian caldari character? Gone  |
 Flump Amarr Renegade Traders |
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:03:00 - [ 164]
where does it say people would need to wear anything that different from modern times, trousers are trousers, boots are boots. nothing says you have to have trainers made all out of metal just because its 500 years in future. |
 Richard Aiel Caldari Umbra Exitium Order Of The Unforgiving |
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:07:00 - [ 165]
Edited by: Richard Aiel on 21/01/2011 14:09:37 Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Solomon XI you and I both know that CCP will add a lot more to our choices.
All at the low, low price of $14.95
What expansion did we have to pay for in this game? ...ever? Plus, it IS futuristic... See Firefly |
 Get'Im |
Posted - 2011.01.21 14:43:00 - [ 166]
Looking at all the art in the chronicles, I don't see how anyone could have expected anything different to what we've got. It's been right in front of you all this time...
I'm all for the space cowboy look though! :P |
 Dr Sheepbringer Gallente Halinallen veroparatiisi Inglorious Carebears |
Posted - 2011.01.23 21:50:00 - [ 167]
I'll rather wear a gimp suit made of latex because it has more sci-fi than being Brokeback Mountain wannabe. |
 Mara Rinn |
Posted - 2011.01.23 21:57:00 - [ 168]
Just posting to confirm that the OP looks exactly like me. I can't tell anyone apart because you're all so similar. Two eyes, a nose, a mouth? Yup, we all look the same :P |
 sartorii Genco
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Posted - 2011.01.24 02:11:00 - [ 169]
Originally by: Ben DoverMiss I fully agree with the initial poster.
The effort that went in to programming the ability to change some facial and body features is really lost when the primary cover and display of the avatars is the clothing for all but the closest of close-ups.
Seriously, as I wrote in another post, I cannot believe how easily satiated and entertained the majority of the Eve community is. This may speak of too many characters that were bought or traded for vs. created, or of other issues, but no populace that created and lived with their original characters for this long would be as stoned and happy with our limited choices as I've read here on the forums.
Agreed. While I like the new Creator UI, the variety and options available are absolutely terrible. To few hairstyles, to few color options for everything, NO TATTOOS!!?!?!?!?! My facial tattoo was the same 'camouflage' patter that was on all Caldari Covert/Recon ships. It was part of my characters internal backstory and even factored into the fanfiction piece I wrote at one point... (no one apart form house slaves having seen my face untattooed as they were reapplied after every clonedeath) The current tools are nice but the options suck. |
 Barbelo Valentinian Gallente The Scope
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Posted - 2011.01.24 02:44:00 - [ 170]
I've seen a dev post where they talk about bringing scars and tattoos in around the same time as re-customizability of the avatar - that's reassuring at least.
But I agree with the OP that a lot of the s-f "character" of EVE as it was has somehow evaporated with these hyper-realistic, but art-design-wise rather boring avatars.
I think because the original CC had its limitations, CCP made up for it by having lots of whacky accessories and backgrounds. And that was a good thing. One's imagination sort of filled in purposes for those odd visors and strange hair accessories and implants, etc., etc. - in their own small way they sort of hinted at a big, wider s-f context.
Now we've got a CC that's absolutely fantastic in terms of physiognomy, facial expression and artistic composition (shadows, positioning) but we've lost all the off-the-wall stuff that gave our avatars so much character before. In terms of art design, these avatars could be from any modern videogame - they're not particularly unique or creative in their overall feel, unlike the original CC.
I hope and believe CCP are aware of this, and that they've done it this way simply through technical and time limitations, and that they will bring back the whacky s-f-ness.
I don't even mind paying for it, so long as it comes back, so long as there's an air of mystery about the EVE avatars again, one day. |
 Henry Haphorn Gallente
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Posted - 2011.01.24 03:13:00 - [ 171]
Oh my God! Are you serious? Are you really going to be complaining about that? You're paying $14.99/month to blow up ships, steal corporate assets, scam people in the market, and control territory. Now, you'll get more bang for your buck when Incarna comes out which will offer more clothing options anyways. And besides, clothing is the least of everyone's concerns. I don't care if there are only two male options for outer tops, because my real concern are the bots that are close to ruining Eve.
Other than that, Eve is awesome. Oh, and by the way, can I have your stuff? |
 ATARI BABY Ministry of War
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Posted - 2011.01.24 03:26:00 - [ 172]
Originally by: Borealis Nebulae Yes, it's now official. All characters look like they would be from 2011. All the clothes, all the boots, everything. Nothing futuristic. They look like the **** that comes out from fashion houses nowadays.
Bad CCP, really bad...
The actual carbon human modeling is great, but the clothes and lack of any deco we had is simply too much.
EVE is gone.
i agree about fashion part. hairs and sunglases are so '2011' but eve is not gone for sure. |
 Q aa's Vassal |
Posted - 2011.01.24 03:37:00 - [ 173]
Originally by: Cryroth do I smell Tears?
oh wait...
hahahah made me lol :D thi i also hate the new clothes CCP told us they'd make some new tho |
 Zidphria Mouritas |
Posted - 2011.01.24 04:14:00 - [ 174]
Edited by: Zidphria Mouritas on 24/01/2011 04:15:26 Originally by: Peik deLeaf
What do you expect humans to look like some 25000 years into the future?
I can offer some guesses, but mostly what I'm *not* expecting is: - Aviators.. sunglasses in space, really? - Black officer boots... because space natzi's are overplayed - Boots with buckles ... we had velcro in the 60's, I'm sure they can come up with something better 20 thousand years later - Baggy trousers... - etc. Basically what we're seeing isn't EVE. It's better than the hyper-future plastic wonky-wear that infects other future-genres, but it's nowhere near what the EVE universe 20 thousand years into the future inhabited by immortal space clones and ships kilometres across that travel at super-luminal speeds should look like. I've never watched an entire episode of Firefly, but right now I would agree with others that the current content resembles that universe of grunge-tech much more. |
 Jaik7 |
Posted - 2011.01.24 04:43:00 - [ 175]
Originally by: Akirei Scytale honestly, scifi consistently gets ******ed the second they try too hard to make things look "futuristic", especially clothes and simple items. you want good scifi? look at something like Firefly.
firefly ftw! |
 Mel Lifera Gallente Ambrye Logistics Ltd. |
Posted - 2011.01.24 04:50:00 - [ 176]
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 Jackson Millenius |
Posted - 2011.01.24 05:17:00 - [ 177]
Really? THIS killed sci fi in eve? I thought not having any alien species was what killed the sci fi feel of it. |
 NinjaSpud |
Posted - 2011.01.24 06:32:00 - [ 178]
Originally by: Cryroth do I smell Tears?
oh wait...
Bodly spoken....your avatar looks like Justin Timberlake |
 Emperor Cheney Celebrity Sex Tape |
Posted - 2011.01.24 06:39:00 - [ 179]
Originally by: Borealis Nebulae It's like making a game about ww2 and then suddenly changing the way soldiers look like the ones from middle ages.
Middle aged clothing looked like it did in large part because dye was limited, materials were often expensive, and making clothing was a tremendous labor. Now materials are cheap, dye is cheap, and manufacture is dirt cheap. Style within the subset of comfort and looks is fairly limited. Which is why most sci-fi shows go goofy to try and convey a futuristic vibe, i.e. bodysuits and the like. |
 Kais N'ktal Caldari Ordos Humanitas Tactical Narcotics Team |
Posted - 2011.01.24 08:02:00 - [ 180]
I do have to admit see your point. Given that in the old char creator you had gasmasks, implants, plastic head pieces and more yet this is gone, most clothing is the same.
In the flipside I'm totally digging my avatar's gear, reminds me of General Hein from Final Fantasy : The spirits within. |