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Mutnin
Amarr
Mutineers
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:21:00 - [61]
 

Didn't you ever hear the line.. "Everything old in new again"..? We just going through a hipster fashion phase.

Kiki Gr1mness
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:23:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: Mutnin
Didn't you ever hear the line.. "Everything old in new again"..? We just going through a hipster fashion phase.


Portraits need a polaroid overlay option.

Aria Selenis
Minmatar
Pan Galactic Gargle Blasters
Important Internet Spaceship League
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:45:00 - [63]
 

New options: Ironic 'Nerf Hybrids' t-shirt, trucker hat, and cheap sunglasses.

In-ship jukebox replaced with 'retro' walkman.

X Dead
Posted - 2011.01.20 02:02:00 - [64]
 

At the risk of being thought of as hunkering under a bridge, this is an initial release and it doesn't preclude the possibility of enhancements. It all had to start somewhere, right?

It's obvious that CCP can enable people to update or change their avatar whenever CCP chooses to (as evidenced by recent Dev Blog). It's also obvious the current technology lends itself to several types of expansion; which ones are more likely to be "best" is actually easier to determine by monitoring channels such as these once folks have a feel for possibilities than pre-development analysis.

Take additional costuming for the immediate example; should this be CCP-made only or crowd-sourced (per certain virtual reality worlds)? If the latter, how is it "bought" from the producer - directly via ISK from the purchaser or real money micro-transactions to CCP (or variations like a micro-transaction to CCP with an ISK conversion to the producer)? What constriants are needed on the models (e.g. for performance? ethics and cultural considerations? game style consistency?) and do they need an approval process by CCP?

This is a base release to work from - CCP never claimed anything more. Constructive suggestions tend to win over whining. Laughing

Phianda
Posted - 2011.01.20 02:37:00 - [65]
 

i agree totally with the OP. i was looking forward to this char tech a great deal. i am really surprised at how disappointed in this i really am. i havnt seen one portrait that i think is cool. i look down the list at large stations and they all just look the same. nothing at all futuristic. this reeks of lack of creativity on CCP's end. just disappointing.

Nora Skuld
Posted - 2011.01.20 02:52:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Phianda
i havnt seen one portrait that i think is cool.


Then you didn't put much effort into it.

Originally by: Phianda
i look down the list at large stations and they all just look the same.


Or you're blatantly lying.

Originally by: Phianda
nothing at all futuristic.


Sci-Fi doesn't imply so called futuristic fashion.

Originally by: Phianda
this reeks of lack of creativity on CCP's end. just disappointing.


If you can't see how diverse EvE's avatars have become compared to the old ones despite the lack of content, I can't really take your criticism seriously.

Tavin Aikisen
Caldari
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
Posted - 2011.01.20 03:04:00 - [67]
 

CCP Caedmon recently stated in a Dev Blog that this is all the foundation for greater things which will include "tattoos, scars and piercings and a means to customise our portraits often".

Now it makes sense to get these features out first since we'll see our portraits before avatars, as Incarna is not out yet. Once it is, all these new assets will be clothing (or lack of in the case of gallenteans). Smile


Voith
Posted - 2011.01.20 03:09:00 - [68]
 

It ain't sci-fi clothing unless it is made of shiny fabric, doused with glitter and involves a belted tunic. With no pants.

Akirei Scytale
Posted - 2011.01.20 03:10:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Voith
It ain't sci-fi clothing unless it is made of shiny fabric, doused with glitter and involves a belted tunic. With no pants.


don't forget the neon lights. everything in the future has neon lights. oh, and we're gonna have hovercars too!

Mattalious
Posted - 2011.01.20 03:16:00 - [70]
 

Originally by: Akirei Scytale
Originally by: Voith
It ain't sci-fi clothing unless it is made of shiny fabric, doused with glitter and involves a belted tunic. With no pants.


don't forget the neon lights. everything in the future has neon lights. oh, and we're gonna have hovercars too!


As long as we don't end up dressed up like 60s go-go dancers, or those crappy Star Trek uniforms. Honestly, most future dress senses seem to suck something chronic.

Akirei Scytale
Posted - 2011.01.20 03:18:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: Mattalious
As long as we don't end up dressed up like 60s go-go dancers, or those crappy Star Trek uniforms. Honestly, most future dress senses seem to suck something chronic.


that's my point :P

Mattalious
Posted - 2011.01.20 03:22:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: Akirei Scytale
Originally by: Mattalious
As long as we don't end up dressed up like 60s go-go dancers, or those crappy Star Trek uniforms. Honestly, most future dress senses seem to suck something chronic.


that's my point :P

But did you have to use hover cars? *sniffle* They'd (and hover boards) be bloody brilliant. They could bring back Cops with car chases around city sky sc****r that ended when the perp ploughs into power lines. Best...tv...ever.

Zidphria Mouritas
Posted - 2011.01.20 03:32:00 - [73]
 

/signed

I just finished telling a few friends how GREAT carbon is at creating TODAY humans, but absolutely does not capture the super-future-space essence of the EVE universe.

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.20 04:04:00 - [74]
 

Edited by: ivar R''dhak on 20/01/2011 04:06:15
Originally by: Orb Lati
So many things missing in the new character creator and I have the sinking feeling we wont see them until CCP have finalised their micro-transaction mechanic, not to mention the additional cash charge to change your portrait.

Quite frankly this is a foregone conclusion for me by now.
Im absolutely sure this will be what uPLEX will be used to pay for. Id be mighty surprised if we can have this ingame when Incarna hits, bought with isk in station "boutiques". Rolling Eyes

Also thnx for pointing out the newest DEVblog on this. Interesting read, guess well have one free shot.

Hyacinthine
Posted - 2011.01.20 06:19:00 - [75]
 

Clearly, the OP wanted self-sizing jackets, self lacing Nikes, and a hoverboard.

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.01.20 06:25:00 - [76]
 

*sings Firefly theme*

I want a Stetson and a brown leather duster tbh.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.20 06:32:00 - [77]
 

Anti-signed. If anything, EVE should use space feudalism (think David Lynch's Dune) or Jules Verne-inspired retrofuturism (without the steampunk tech) for its design style. If it looks newer than 1880, it should be ditched (and 26th-century futuristic visions are right out).

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.01.20 06:36:00 - [78]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Anti-signed. If anything, EVE should use space feudalism (think David Lynch's Dune) or Jules Verne-inspired retrofuturism (without the steampunk tech) for its design style. If it looks newer than 1880, it should be ditched (and 26th-century futuristic visions are right out).


How about:
Amarr = Aristocrats in space, Dune-style.
Matari = Firefly-styled space western.
Gallente = Inspired by Jules Verne
Caldari = WW1 German uniforms (they fit in somehow).

Razz

A Little Girl
Posted - 2011.01.20 06:37:00 - [79]
 

It would be nice if CCP would give some indication of what they plan to do about this. Old portraits had piercings, spikes, metal face plates and other accessories which helped give some character. This new one while technically accomplished lacks character and most people look the same in one way or another.

Why limit the dimensions achievable anyway? No fat people allowed? No anorexics? What about giants and dwarves? Variety is the spice of life!

Quemist
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:17:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Quemist on 20/01/2011 07:20:06
Edited by: Quemist on 20/01/2011 07:18:19
I'm pretty confident in this, developing into a culture which lives totally indoors, over the course of how many 1000's of years. In atmosphere controlled ships and systems. The 'fashion' would actually trend towards more light, comfortable clothing suited for something like 70-75 degrees. Yes.. space is cold but we would be in space as much as we are now in the earth's atmosphere only it would be completely controlled and moderated in our own artificial one.

1. There would be no layers of coats.
2. There would be no steel toed combat boots and doubtfully any working boots whatsoever as near everything a modern day worker would do would be completely automated.
3. There would be no aviator sunglasses.
4. There would be no 'tribal cultures whatsoever as any society that will ever be able to support actual space flight and any even minimal degree of technological advancement would have to be way to populace and organized to support this. Any 'gangsta retro throwback' springing to life in common memory even 70 years from 2011 is ridiculous.
5. After the astroid hits in 2027 history will mark that as the day of extinction for certain cultures which I won't name anyway.

What would occur if a hyper advanced civilization were to exist in communities springing up in space stations. Tbh the old Gallenteen look is much more likely. They killed that though, you might be able to pay for it in plex one day.

Prince Spiderman
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:22:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Borealis Nebulae
Yes, it's now official. All characters look like they would be from 2011. All the clothes, all the boots, everything. Nothing futuristic. They look like the **** that comes out from fashion houses nowadays.

Bad CCP, really bad...

The actual carbon human modeling is great, but the clothes and lack of any deco we had is simply too much.

EVE is gone.


I agree actually. It's too ordinary. But if you read more news'n'blogs before posting you will find out that the char editor and loads of assets are not finished yet.

Sullen Skoung
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:24:00 - [82]
 

Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 20/01/2011 07:25:53
oops wrong guy lol

00383988003
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:25:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Borealis Nebulae
Yes, it's now official. All characters look like they would be from 2011. All the clothes, all the boots, everything. Nothing futuristic. They look like the **** that comes out from fashion houses nowadays.

Bad CCP, really bad...

The actual carbon human modeling is great, but the clothes and lack of any deco we had is simply too much.

EVE is gone.


I agree, it looks very euro trash. It's going to look really dated soon, but hey I log on to see the ships, not people!

Kengutsi Akira
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:28:00 - [84]
 

Yeah cause I can get neato plates like this in my head now if I want

Rolling Eyes

Ehdward
Caldari
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:47:00 - [85]
 


Frances
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:56:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Captain Fortune
I would like to see the Gallente get their Fifth Element clothing routes again, but really, what we have now is very ambiguous, from robes to biker jackets.


That is exactly the comparison I was going to use, Fifth Element. My old Intaki portrait had all sorts of random plastic stuff. The old Jin-Mei females had all the awesome Asian stuff they could put in their hair. As great as the new Carbon character generator is, it still manages to be bland.

Of course, odds are that 3 months from now when all characters are well and truly finalized CCP will add all of that stuff......and you'll have to pay for a portrait swap to get it. That would make me.......unhappy.

Quemist
Posted - 2011.01.20 08:05:00 - [87]
 

Edited by: Quemist on 20/01/2011 08:05:08
Does CCP release delayed unfinished content on purpose? Everything is always delayed, always unfinished, except WIS which was never done.

Pod Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.20 08:09:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
Originally by: Akirei Scytale
honestly, scifi consistently gets ******ed the second they try too hard to make things look "futuristic", especially clothes and simple items. you want good scifi? look at something like Firefly.


A few thousand years ago, Manly Men were wearing robes and togas. Who knows what we'll be wearing a few thousand years from now.

Would you need pockets in a digital, cashless, my PDA and "cell phone" are cranial implants, world?





The pocket argument was used by the maker of babylon 5 series I mean yeah we are in future but we will need pockets so no jumpsuits.
Laughing

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.01.20 08:20:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: Tres Farmer on 20/01/2011 08:23:40
Originally by: Cryroth
Originally by: Borealis Nebulae
Originally by: Cryroth
do I smell Tears?

oh wait...
The whole backstory is pointless when characters look like the same that you look out from your window in present time...in a scifi game..

Giving looks or able to custom our pilots isn't taking any sci-fi out of EVE , you still blow ships , lose ISK , QQ , tears ,Ragequits.

either way I don't really see what hurts to have clothing in a sci-fi cannon or not.

Edit: I saw the post about everyone looking the same and here what I got to say: I kind agree on this the character creation still is limited .

This is because people have no clue how to light their portraits properly (flat boring lights in 90% of the cases), choose poorly contrasting backgrounds, put on sunglasses and use full body shots instead of close-ups to make them distinguishable.

TL;DR the portraits suck, cause the people in front of the computer making them suck at this

Mijano
Minmatar
Sons Of 0din
C0NVICTED
Posted - 2011.01.20 08:57:00 - [90]
 

Not sayin' I actually 'like' the clothes, I'd still say they are a bit futuristic. Just look at the jacket and how it hangs in that weird way!

Although the truth is that CCP released a half-done product. I will be seriously ****ed if we aren't allowed to add stuff when they update the system (which I suppose they'll do, considering how f-ing undone it is).


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