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Eya Daishan
Posted - 2011.07.10 10:00:00 - [241]
 

Idea

Chronix Beebelbrox
Posted - 2011.07.10 20:00:00 - [242]
 

/emote Supports this!

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.10 21:37:00 - [243]
 

I would humbly suggest that in order to make this vote statistically significant, we need control cases, which is a similar vote to buff say, Caldari, Amarr, and Minmatar ships. Just speaking from a scientific point of view :)

Leon Razor
Gallente
Posted - 2011.07.11 00:39:00 - [244]
 

CCP already knows Gallente ships win at PvP, didn't you all watch the new "I Was There" trailer?

In all seriousness though, I would love to see Hybrid's 'fixed'.

kerradeph
Gallente
CATO.nss
Posted - 2011.07.12 06:14:00 - [245]
 

dear lord, please fix gal ships. I want to get into serious PVP and I keep getting told "oh, train into projectile guns", "oh, train into minmatar ships", "train into amarr", "train into caldari and get better shield tanking skills". it's BS that one race just gets the sharp end of the stick while all the other races keep getting their toys upgraded.

GRWAN
Posted - 2011.07.12 08:27:00 - [246]
 

supported

Ineka
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.07.12 09:54:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Leon Razor
CCP already knows Gallente ships win at PvP, didn't you all watch the new "I Was There" trailer?


"I Was There" = few century's ago heh?

Unless they're intending to give special ability to blaster ships like being able to warp on grid from 50km this trailer didn't reflected gallente and blaster ships issues like not being able to apply any decent dps unless you're on top of the target.

A simple fleet of hurricanes would just spank that blaster fleet with lols in local. Laughing

Ralack
RalJin Industries

Posted - 2011.07.12 20:32:00 - [248]
 

Definately needs a slight adjustment.

Kytayn
Gallente
Kronos TEchnologies
Posted - 2011.07.12 23:09:00 - [249]
 

Aye

Alexzia Sevic
Posted - 2011.07.13 03:00:00 - [250]
 

For the love of all that is holy yes.

Laurence Pinkitin
Posted - 2011.07.14 00:14:00 - [251]
 

bumping for justice.

this thread will not die.

Randal Eirikr
Posted - 2011.07.14 05:52:00 - [252]
 


Darth Helmat
Posted - 2011.07.14 13:16:00 - [253]
 


Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.14 16:12:00 - [254]
 

Originally by: kerradeph
dear lord, please fix gal ships. I want to get into serious PVP and I keep getting told "oh, train into projectile guns", "oh, train into minmatar ships", "train into amarr", "train into caldari and get better shield tanking skills". it's BS that one race just gets the sharp end of the stick while all the other races keep getting their toys upgraded.


Maybe... just for the sake of argument.... you should consider that learning projectile guns IS a valid solution? Maybe, (If I were to put on my devil's advocate hat) the Federation prefers tactics of drones and long range rails or close range blasters? I mean, if we disregard for a second that this is a game, and think in the 'story' terms, it may be completely okay that projectiles pwn gallente weapons because, well, Gallenteans are not exactly an aggressive race? Besides, the minmatar are their allies, so they would be having those same Hurricanes fighting at their side in any Faction conflicts with The State. You all are capsuleers afterall. Not tied to any faction really, not subject to the laws and restrictions of mere mortals. If you want to be the best pirate ever, then maybe its time you trained to fly good alpha ships, like minmatar ones. The ones designed that way so that they could over throw centuries of slavery to their masters, the pompus Amarrians?

I mean, if I were put on my RP hat.

Balancing the game so that everything is 'equal' makes EVE about as boring as chess. Razz

Darth Helmat
Posted - 2011.07.14 17:25:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Originally by: kerradeph
dear lord, please fix gal ships. I want to get into serious PVP and I keep getting told "oh, train into projectile guns", "oh, train into minmatar ships", "train into amarr", "train into caldari and get better shield tanking skills". it's BS that one race just gets the sharp end of the stick while all the other races keep getting their toys upgraded.


Maybe... just for the sake of argument.... you should consider that learning projectile guns IS a valid solution? Maybe, (If I were to put on my devil's advocate hat) the Federation prefers tactics of drones...



dear lord, please fix drones too Cool

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.07.15 08:17:00 - [256]
 

Would love a little Gallente love. Very Happy

Ilkahn
Gallente
United Aerospace Co-op
Posted - 2011.07.15 13:50:00 - [257]
 

Strict Gallente, supported. CCP balance up please ladies and gentlemen.

IQ 001
Gallente
2plus2isfive
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.07.15 20:58:00 - [258]
 

it would be nice if cpp did something, gallente suck arse atm

Jacob Stov
Posted - 2011.07.16 00:24:00 - [259]
 

Not supported. Caldari hybrid ships are even worse then their gallente counterparts, and not a word about them in the OP.

Rip Minner
Gallente
ARMITAGE Logistics Salvage and Industries
Posted - 2011.07.16 04:24:00 - [260]
 

I thought Gallents were kicking ars. I mean Super Caps wtf right. What's better then a fleet of Nyx hiting the battle field to rip it apart?

No for real you got my support becouse other then Super Caps and Carriers Gallents sux ars.

Gramdin
Posted - 2011.07.17 13:59:00 - [261]
 

Supported YARRRR!!

Minnie miss
Posted - 2011.07.19 14:20:00 - [262]
 


Sick Gangster
Posted - 2011.07.20 11:47:00 - [263]
 

Tell all gallente pilots to come here and vote

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.20 14:48:00 - [264]
 

Originally by: Sick Gangster
Tell all gallente pilots to come here and vote


Yes, a 2%* support to read ratio isn't exactly helping the cause. So either a) Gallente pilots don't read these forums; b) only 2% of New Eden's population are Gallente pilots, or c) there isn't a problem big enough for them to support this. Only the stats on the demographics of the readers of this forum can reveal the truth.

*178 supports for 7600+ reads.

PointlessWitch
Posted - 2011.07.20 21:08:00 - [265]
 

+1

Rawbone
Gallente
S3MINAL FLUID
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.07.21 02:03:00 - [266]
 

Edited by: Rawbone on 21/07/2011 23:47:43
Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Originally by: Sick Gangster
Tell all gallente pilots to come here and vote


Yes, a 2%* support to read ratio isn't exactly helping the cause. So either a) Gallente pilots don't read these forums; b) only 2% of New Eden's population are Gallente pilots, or c) there isn't a problem big enough for them to support this. Only the stats on the demographics of the readers of this forum can reveal the truth.

*178 supports for 7600+ reads.

LOL, seriously. scientifically speaking, if you yourself veiw it more than once, you've skewed your own hypothesis. I've viewed it a few times and, scientifically speaking, the laws of probability will back up my supposition that you and I are not alone in our multiple views.
Seriously though, why the hate on gallente pilots? Matar were rebalanced to their great fortune. and as a side note to ccp, I've crosstrained into amarr and matar, so now you're free to rebalance Gallente.

Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.21 03:46:00 - [267]
 

Originally by: Rawbone
Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Originally by: Sick Gangster
Tell all gallente pilots to come here and vote


Yes, a 2%* support to read ratio isn't exactly helping the cause. So either a) Gallente pilots don't read these forums; b) only 2% of New Eden's population are Gallente pilots, or c) there isn't a problem big enough for them to support this. Only the stats on the demographics of the readers of this forum can reveal the truth.

*178 supports for 7600+ reads.

LOL, seriously. scientifically speaking, if you yourself veiw it more than once, you've skewed your own hypothesis. I've viewed it a few times and, scientifically speaking, the laws of probability will back up my supposition that you and I are not alone in our multiple views.
Seriously though, why the hate on gallente pilots? Matar were rebalanced to their great fortune. and as a side note to ccp, I've crosstrained into amarr and matar, so now you're free to rebalance Gallente.


There is no hate. I am a student of scientific method, so I just would prefer to hear the logic behind the rebalance instead of going on the votes of people who may be having problems with their fits and just assume that there is a problem. Honestly, I don't know which are which. Popular vote may be skewed buy non-expert votes. I would love to see the opinions of hardened PvP vets on the matter, that's all :)

I also am a fan of varied game balance. What that mean is that I do not believe balance on a ship by ship comparison should be a goal. I like games like Starcraft where each race dictated a different set of tactics and playing styles.

So I suppose I am biased, in that from my tiny perspective, the races seem pretty 'balanced'. As part of my nullsec corp, the ship spread seems pretty equal.

Amarrian Guardians are the best logis
Amarrian battleships are more popular than the rest
Caldari have the bombers and drakes
Gallente thanatos and nyx is the carriers of choice
Minmatar for cruisers.

I just want to point out that forums like these may be read by say, only Gallente frigate or cruiser pilots, so they feel that their entire race needs a rebalance. I would just like to see some actual evidence of where the imbalances lay, taken as a whole race.


Kaelie Onren
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.07.21 07:04:00 - [268]
 

Originally by: Rawbone

LOL, seriously. scientifically speaking, if you yourself veiw it more than once, you've skewed your own hypothesis. I've viewed it a few times and, scientifically speaking, the laws of probability will back up my supposition that you and I are not alone in our multiple views.
Seriously though, why the hate on gallente pilots? Matar were rebalanced to their great fortune. and as a side note to ccp, I've crosstrained into amarr and matar, so now you're free to rebalance Gallente.


Though this forum page doesn't display it, I'm sure its a simple task for CCP to do to filter out duplicate reads by same users so that a very clear read-not-support/not-care vs supported ratio can be found.

Anna Headshot
Posted - 2011.07.21 16:48:00 - [269]
 


Rawbone
Gallente
S3MINAL FLUID
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.07.21 21:15:00 - [270]
 

Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Originally by: Rawbone
Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Originally by: Sick Gangster



There is no hate. I am a student of scientific method, so I just would prefer to hear the logic behind the rebalance instead of going on the votes of people who may be having problems with their fits and just assume that there is a problem. Honestly, I don't know which are which. Popular vote may be skewed buy non-expert votes. I would love to see the opinions of hardened PvP vets on the matter, that's all :)

I also am a fan of varied game balance. What that mean is that I do not believe balance on a ship by ship comparison should be a goal. I like games like Starcraft where each race dictated a different set of tactics and playing styles.

So I suppose I am biased, in that from my tiny perspective, the races seem pretty 'balanced'. As part of my nullsec corp, the ship spread seems pretty equal.

Amarrian Guardians are the best logis
Amarrian battleships are more popular than the rest
Caldari have the bombers and drakes
Gallente thanatos and nyx is the carriers of choice
Minmatar for cruisers.

I just want to point out that forums like these may be read by say, only Gallente frigate or cruiser pilots, so they feel that their entire race needs a rebalance. I would just like to see some actual evidence of where the imbalances lay, taken as a whole race.



Gotta disagree with your ship preferences. Guardians were great, but currently there are very few armor fleets as armor tanks are pigs in comparison to to shield tanks. Scimitar and basilisk share duty equally here.
Alpha Tempest is the flavour of the moment.
Drakes and hurricanes are everywhere in null sec. No one calls for harby or myrmidon fleets... ever.
Bombers are racially intgerchangeable.
t2 frigs, no complaints from the gallente here, ishkur and taranis do very well.
best Hac, easy... vaga. best recon is falcon, best hic, i'd go with broadsword, best dic,, again an easy one... sabre. Best command ship, anyone but gallente.
Loki and Tengu rule the T3's
Tengu and Raven are the bots ship of choice for good reason.
Carriers: Thanatos and Archon seem to be generally favoured, though in a triage situation, shield carriers are preffered.
Nyx is the prettiest of all super carriers, and have best dps. they're also primaried. Aeon has monster tank and better survivability.
Titan's.. who cares. they're just mobile jump bridges now anyhow.
I'm not sure what you're looking for here. You claim that you'd like to see a game where not everything is homegenous, and I agree. That doesn't mean that one race that has been singled out by the ccp nerf bat time and time again should be the weakest at everything or that one ( matar) should be best at almoseverything. I agree with the consequences of choice, but that should mean if your race gets the best cruisers, the t2 versions aren't or if you get the best battleships, your battle cruisers should be weak. That's the conaequence of choice i'd like to see, not simply ..." too bad you're gallente, you should have gone matar."


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