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Blutomus Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.19 05:51:00 - [1]
 

I have Daytrading level 3 which should allow me to remotely modify buy/sell orders up to around 10 jumps away, however since the patch when trying to remotely 'modify' orders in the next system (same region) I get the message: "Your current trade skills level only allows you to issue remote orders with range limited to the bound station".

CaldariAchuriaaa
Posted - 2011.01.19 06:52:00 - [2]
 

Agreed, I am experiencing the same problem. Before the patch I was able to modify orders while in space, but after the patch, it would not allow me to modify it and I get the same error message.

CCP Sisyphus


C C P
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:10:00 - [3]
 

I would appreciate as much information on this as possible, trying to investigate this.

Axxo Proxy
Posted - 2011.01.19 11:37:00 - [4]
 

As above, since the new update I have been unable to modify any of my buy orders remotely even though they are in range with my Trade skills or even when in the same system which the orders have been placed. My only option is to dock in the station which they are placed in and modify them.

when trying to modify the order's remotely the modify order window opens, then the next window with the % below or above usual price, then the problem window pops up

TOO FAR AWAY... Your current trade skills level only allows you to issue remote orders with range limited to the bound station.

I am able to place orders within the station while in another system i just cannot modify them.

I've had a chat with CCP to see if we could figure it out between us without any success and their guys are aware of this problem and brain storming Idea Rolling Eyes this issue as i type this out, so fingers crossed it shouldn't be too much of an issue for to long. Again thanks Sisyphus

Salomon Breslauer
Geszeft
Posted - 2011.01.19 14:18:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Salomon Breslauer on 19/01/2011 14:24:47
Originally by: CCP Sisyphus
I would appreciate as much information on this as possible, trying to investigate this.

Some information can be found in the market discussions thread. here: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1451107
The appearance of the bug seems to be related to peoples level of the visibility skill.

My findings:
-character with all level 5 trade skills
-cannot remotely place/modify region-wide buy orders, where remotely means from anywhere in the region (including outside the station You are trying to place in)
-the popup message reads: "TOO FAR" , "Your current trade skills level only allows you to issue remote orders with range limited to 50 jumps distance from the bound station"
-orders with a range of station, solar system, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10, 20, 30, 40 work normally for me (even when placed/modified remotely)
-region wide ones can still be placed and modified from the station they are placed in
-this started happening post Incursion 1.1 on 18th January

Crazy Janks
Minmatar
Super Fantastic Flaming Rainbow Ponies
Posted - 2011.01.19 15:26:00 - [6]
 

I have maxed Trade Skills, Level 5 across the board. .

I can not place a remote buy order, or adjust an existing buy or sell order, for an order in a station 0 jumps, 5 jumps, 15 jumps, even 20+ jumps away today but I could for the past 2 years pre-patch.

I can easily put an item up for sale that is anywhere in the region. I can also place a buy order if I'm DOCKED, and adjust orders I have placed in that station. I didn't check if I can change those same orders docked in another system of the same region though.


Areteius
Posted - 2011.01.19 15:27:00 - [7]
 

Same problem.
Daytrading level 2, but CANT modify orders even within the same system.
Getting message "Your current trade skills level only allows you to issue remote orders with range limited to the bound station".
Before the yesterday's patch all was OK.


Risk Aversion
Posted - 2011.01.19 17:17:00 - [8]
 

This only seems to impact me if I'm undocked in the same system where the order exists.

Sigul Siento
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:50:00 - [9]
 

Trying to modify an order in a station within 7 jumps (have tried from other places in the region too), and get the "Too far away"-message: Your current trade skills level only allows you to issue remote orders with range limited to the bound station.

My Trade skills were equipped with the following:

Accounting 4
Broker Relations 5
Contracting 3
Daytrading 4 (the one which seems broken)
Margin Trading 2
Marketing 3
Procurement 4
Retail 5
Trade 4
Visibility 0 (injected but as yet untrained)
Wholesale 4

FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT...FIX IT FIX IT FIX IT!

Whiff
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:54:00 - [10]
 

Same problem here. Daytrading at lvl 3 (affects skill at modifying items remotely) - I ought to be able to do it for buy / sell orders at max 10 jumps - but no deal.

Tohm Raerdor
Endless Destruction
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.01.20 01:19:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Tohm Raerdor on 20/01/2011 01:20:20
Daytrading @ 4. Been using the market for years.

I am in space, 5 jumps away from a station that I have buy orders at.

When I modify the buy orders that have a regional buy range, I get the error that I can only modify orders within 20 jumps of my location.

When I modify the buy orders that have a jump range (10 or 20), it works fine.

From the above, it appears that the order modification code is comparing the range of the buy order to Daytrading, rather than my range to the station.

Please fix soon. :) thanks!

MoonglumX
Posted - 2011.01.20 04:02:00 - [12]
 

I have day trading 4. I can modify sell orders, but can no longer modify buy orders. I was one jump away, from a 5 jump range buyout. Sounds like the same problems as above.

Sagacious Z
Minmatar
Megaton m3 Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.01.20 15:12:00 - [13]
 

This is a BUG. It has nothing at all to do with the Visibility skill or any other skill. All of those reporting this bug have had the ability to modify orders within their particular skill range before the latest patch--now, we can't.

My skill level allows up to 20 jumps away. I have tried different orders, and I have tried undocking then docking again, and still, I get the same message about "... bound to station" even though I am well within my 20 jump range.

This has to be a bug related to the latest patch and has nothing to do with one's skill level if they were able to modify orders before the patch within their range.

Sigul Siento
Posted - 2011.01.20 15:26:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Tohm Raerdor

From the above, it appears that the order modification code is comparing the range of the buy order to Daytrading, rather than my range to the station.


Don't think so, as the orders I tried to modify from different ranges themselves have a 40 jump range.

Tamirr U'tath
Posted - 2011.01.20 15:41:00 - [15]
 

I'm seeing a different issue which is less critical but is driving me nuts.


When you modify an order, the cursor in the price text box used to be in focus at the end of the box. Now, the text box is not focused, so you have to manually click the box to edit the value.


Lederstrumpf
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:16:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 10/04/2011 05:24:39
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Mas Cream
Monetary Allocation Certified Securities Inc. II
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:27:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 20/01/2011 17:21:40

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1451107&page=1#8

Mas pointed it out... "clear your autopilot"....

I'll try to explain:

A) There is a hop count distance depending on autopilot settings ("Prefer safer", Avoidance list, ...)
B) There is an absolute shortest possible distance to a remote system. ("Prefer shorter" AP setting)

A and B are different things.

A) is being used for Personal Assets Window -> All Item/Region Tab "Number of Jumps" sort ordering, which is fine (well, is it?), as it's _jumps_ in there, not distance.

Problem now is that the check whether your skill allows you to trade remotely is getting done against A), the hop count distance according to autopilot settings, not B), the actual absolute distance.

For all people having problems with selling stuff remotely:

1. Open "World Map Control Panel" ('Star Map View')
2. Select Autopilot Tab->Settings Tab
3. Set "Prefer shorter"
4. Deselect "Avoid systems..."

Does it work again as expected now?

P.S.: I'm not going to file a bug report.



I also found avoid using "Region" setting.

If I actually HELPED YOU back to going to Market PVP all I ask is you buy my shares of MACSI! 5 Million each, just one and I'll double your investment soon as they all sell!

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1444508

meanwhile I'm updating orders on my trade alt with methods described above :P

Blutomus Maximus
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:37:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Lederstrumpf
Edited by: Lederstrumpf on 20/01/2011 17:21:40

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1451107&page=1#8

Mas pointed it out... "clear your autopilot"....



I don't know whether problem with setting up remote orders (if there is one) is connected with the issue reported in this thread i.e. problems remotely modifying existing buy/sell orders, however, I have always had autopilot set to 'prefer shorter' and don't have any systems on my avoidance list. But just for the sake of it, I selected other options and then put it back, and nothing changed. Either the fix doesn't work, or isn't related to this problem...at least on my char.

Sigul Siento
Posted - 2011.01.20 22:14:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Blutomus Maximus

I don't know whether problem with setting up remote orders (if there is one) is connected with the issue reported in this thread i.e. problems remotely modifying existing buy/sell orders, however, I have always had autopilot set to 'prefer shorter' and don't have any systems on my avoidance list. But just for the sake of it, I selected other options and then put it back, and nothing changed. Either the fix doesn't work, or isn't related to this problem...at least on my char.


Same here; makes no difference and my autopilot-settings are straight and true.

Originally by: Tamirr U'tath
I'm seeing a different issue which is less critical but is driving me nuts.

When you modify an order, the cursor in the price text box used to be in focus at the end of the box. Now, the text box is not focused, so you have to manually click the box to edit the value.


Yeah, fix please.

Salomon Breslauer
Geszeft
Posted - 2011.01.21 08:05:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Lederstrumpf

Does it work again as expected now?



No.

Sigul Siento
Posted - 2011.01.21 16:23:00 - [21]
 


Nahm Pran
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:08:00 - [22]
 

I also can not - no modify from even one jump away - with daytrading at level 4. Not nice. Please fix

Cpt Zigzag
Posted - 2011.01.22 00:27:00 - [23]
 

I too have problem
I cam mod my sell orders.
but says I no have skill to change my buy orders
I have to be in station of origin.
but I have lv 3 skill

Sagacious Z
Minmatar
Megaton m3 Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.01.22 04:48:00 - [24]
 

Evil or Very Mad

Forget these "settings" fixes. There is a bug here that needs fixed. Even if "prefer shorter" worked (and some say it doesn't), two problems:

1] "prefer shorter" will often take you into low-sec. It should be player option if they want "prefer safer" or "prefer shorter" and that choice should not be tied to an attempted fix for a bug.

2] The bug needs fixed! A new patch just came out and it still is not fixed. I have not played in days now since every time I sign on and attempt to modify an order, I can't do it.

Please fix this.

Evil or Very Mad

William Norton
Posted - 2011.01.22 10:24:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: William Norton on 22/01/2011 10:29:31
I'd like to add the following:

1.) I have no problem remotely placing or modifying sell orders.
2.) I can't remotely modify buy orders which have their range set to anything other than station.
3.) I CAN remotely modify buy orders if their range is station only.

I have Daytrading level 3 but I did not train Visibility yet, so my first guess was that the function/object/whatever the game use to modify market orders no longer actually modifies the order itself, but tries to create a new order with the same parameters and the new price, then delete the original. If you could not create this "new" order remotely with your current skills, you get that nice error message we're all familiar with. This would explain why there is no problem with sell orders or station-only buy orders.

Now there are people who claim they have all trade skills at level 5 and still having the same issue, so either the Visibility skill is also broken or we're dealing with a much deeper problem here.

Tohm Raerdor
Endless Destruction
Imperial 0rder
Posted - 2011.01.22 14:43:00 - [26]
 

Just confirming that the buy order modification bug reported here by many is still present after the latest patch.

Sagacious Z
Minmatar
Megaton m3 Heavy Industries
Posted - 2011.01.22 15:40:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Sagacious Z on 22/01/2011 15:40:43
Edited by: Sagacious Z on 22/01/2011 15:40:19
Why is this bug still in game???

CCP Sisyphus noted the problem and asked for our input. Have not heard from him since. This is a major problem. No use for me in game until fixed. I just paid my annual fee a few weeks ago and I have sat on the sidelines for 4 days waiting for this to be fixed.

C'mon!

Callista Omenswarm
Binary Industries Inc
Posted - 2011.01.24 02:31:00 - [28]
 

Having the same problem. Tried training another level of day trading to see if that'd help reset the problem.

Will give visibility a go and see if that helps.

Lea Cantara
Posted - 2011.01.24 11:43:00 - [29]
 

Daytrading lvl 3..before incursion everything worked...experiencing the same bug.
can`t change orders which are even only 1(!) jump away in the same region ugh
pls...ccpExclamationSad

CCP Stillman

Posted - 2011.01.24 14:38:00 - [30]
 

The fix for this is scheduled for Incursion 1.1.2.

Thanks for your patience and understanding,
Stillman


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