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Archeris vane
Amarr
CONTRATTO
Equinox Rising
Posted - 2011.01.19 18:01:00 - [61]
 

if you cant afford it you're better off spending your time on making money?

theres more to life than eve..

but then again, internet spaisshipz r sirius bizniz

Samantha Tron
Posted - 2011.01.19 18:13:00 - [62]
 

The most anoying thing about all this to the players that dont have the system to support the game is that most likely the changes that they made to the game isnt going to be all that noticeable at all.

As in most process and programing to make the game run smoother they hade to come up with new ways of doing things to keep the game runing as smooth as before, and supporting future plans CCP has for the game.

So most likely we wont see anything new on the near future that we could point at and say, this is why they did this.

Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
Posted - 2011.01.19 18:14:00 - [63]
 

Edited by: Lork Niffle on 19/01/2011 18:15:05
I will also heed you to acquire a graphics chip that is capable of Shader Model 3.0. This means a Geforce 6100, Radeon X1300 or Intel X3100 or higher GPU In order to play the game.

Since CCP will be phasing that out in the near future.

Onibrak
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.19 18:14:00 - [64]
 

Thanks for this topic, I needed a good laugh. Eight years old...

It's almost like you're a child living at home with his parents crying, but chances are you're just a manbaby who's cheap as all hell. If you can't afford to upgrade, you can't play. That's PC gaming. Always has been, always will be. Buy an xbox if you hate it so much.

Jerry Mcguerra
Posted - 2011.01.19 18:57:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Onibrak
Thanks for this topic, I needed a good laugh. Eight years old...

It's almost like you're a child living at home with his parents crying, but chances are you're just a manbaby who's cheap as all hell. If you can't afford to upgrade, you can't play. That's PC gaming. Always has been, always will be. Buy an xbox if you hate it so much.


Someone here sure likes kicking the person allready lying down

pathetic post

Max Tron
Posted - 2011.01.19 19:06:00 - [66]
 

Originally by: Jerry Mcguerra
Originally by: Onibrak
Thanks for this topic, I needed a good laugh. Eight years old...

It's almost like you're a child living at home with his parents crying, but chances are you're just a manbaby who's cheap as all hell. If you can't afford to upgrade, you can't play. That's PC gaming. Always has been, always will be. Buy an xbox if you hate it so much.


Someone here sure likes kicking the person allready lying down

pathetic post


Can only agree

Owledge
Posted - 2011.01.19 20:47:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: Owledge on 19/01/2011 20:55:21
Originally by: Jerry Mcguerra
Originally by: Onibrak
Thanks for this topic, I needed a good laugh. Someone here sure likes kicking the person allready lying down

This is the point.
The problem with the mindset employed by many elitists here is that it can be used against them, too.
So people think if budget is that tight, you should focus more on RL and not play EVE. Well, EVE can be many things, and I guess it's no secret that games can provide a little distraction and relief in tough times. This can be seen as good or as bad, but many people can't understand if they never were in a situation like that, when a game like EVE is really the only nice thing left. First elitism kicks people down and then elitism blames them from not being able to get up again.

So... now to all the people who have a good income and fulfilled life ... what the hell are you doing in EVE?! Isn't your real life interesting enough? Is it maybe just a facade of happiness? Are you maybe tired of your high-paying long-hours management job and need EVE for relief? And why are you posting here in the support forums in the first place? What's YOUR problem? I thought the pre-SSE2 people are the ones having the problem. Seems that you have one, too.

You could realize the irony that the poorest and the richest EVE players might be playing the game for the very same reasons.

And as an afterthought: From the psychological view what's called "fanboydom" is when someone has an emotional attachment and feels it threatened. That's really not limited to computer games. People will fiercely defend ANYTHING they are highly dependant on, because every critique of it will be perceived as a threat.

Hm... maybe some poor players are those who have given up and some rich players are those who cannot give up.

Personally, I'm not that attached to the game. It's just that I have empathy for people in various situations, you know. I simply didn't go all soft with my writing in order to hold the mirror in front of you, although it's always doubtful people will recognize themselves in it.

Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
Posted - 2011.01.19 20:49:00 - [68]
 

I post in the support forum to aid other members of the game, increase my knowledge on computer systems and get experience in helping people who may not be computer literate.

I also have no income and I manage to keep up.

Jowdra
Amarr
GalTech Shipyards
Posted - 2011.01.19 20:54:00 - [69]
 

CAN I HAZ YOUR STUFFZ?

Cpt Kellroy
Posted - 2011.01.19 21:53:00 - [70]
 

I have an older processor that will no longer run this game as well. My problem is that I have only been playing this game for less than 2 months. I have spent around $70 so far for the game and 2 months game time.Now your telling me I need to spend more $ to continue paying more $ to play this game. And how long will it be before the rest of you that have ageing computers have to go upgrade something in order to play this game. Will you feel the same then? How about when you have a couple of years invested in here? That's about $200 a year. So what if you have 4 years invested in it. So it's old tech, so i'm gonna go spend a couple hundred dollars on something to play it for now ( like you all said, I can buy and old machine for cheap) and just how long is that gonna last ? Untill the next patch in a few months? And let's face it if your into gaming your not just gonna go buy a hunk of **** just to continue playing games, your gonna go buy the latest and greatest machine that blows everyone else out of the water so that you don't have to upgrade for some time. In short **** EVE!!! I've got plenty of games that run fine after I buy them and dont cost to play after the fact.I will NEVER again pay to play games after I have purchased them . PERIOD!!! **** EVE And **** WOW!

Lork Niffle
Gallente
External Hard Drive
Posted - 2011.01.19 21:57:00 - [71]
 

Edited by: Lork Niffle on 19/01/2011 22:01:08
It has taken 8-10 years for SSE2 to become a minimum requirement.

For my system that supports SSE4 it should be by that projection 2017 until I have to change my system.

Frankly I will probably be upgrading my system soon with the release of AMD's bulldozer CPUs which should have SSE5 support.

But I don't care about support, it's a cheap regular improvement I can make to my system to do what I want to do. You have to accept that an old system cannot run everything forever and eventually it will have to be scrapped whether by the simply cycle of improvements or eventual hardware failure (systems usually by statistics fail after 10 years).

Dare Knight
Minmatar
The 0ffice of Secret Intelligence
SoulWing Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:20:00 - [72]
 

Darwinism - The elimination of p.o.s. hardware as a result of the natural rapid evolution of technology.

I'm sorry, I told people to gtfo earlier. I forgot you were already told to gtfo by CCP.

Dominatrix Distraction
Posted - 2011.01.19 22:51:00 - [73]
 

So DUST will not run on my PS2? WTF?

Neonoodle
Caldari
UNITED KINGDOM MAYHEM
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:20:00 - [74]
 

Maybe you need to look for a better job? loads around ive been told. This was bound to happen at some point, and TBH Eve users have been lucky, as CCP could have done this years ago like other games Req better CPU's and Higher GFX cards, EVE have been a game that has been around for 7 years, and untill recently would have run on a hamster powered calulator, its been running on low end systems for years. maybe with the subscription your going to save from not being able to play you could put it towords your family or a second hand post 2003 PC?

Eulysees Chelt
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:25:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Lork Niffle
Edited by: Lork Niffle on 19/01/2011 18:15:05
I will also heed you to acquire a graphics chip that is capable of Shader Model 3.0. This means a Geforce 6100, Radeon X1300 or Intel X3100 or higher GPU In order to play the game.

Since CCP will be phasing that out in the near future.


FYI I already upgraded my card to cover shaders 3.0, that was easy enough to do but a cpu isnt plug and play like a gpu...hell...its not even in the same price range...dont forget that a lot of the ppl replying in here are obviosly of U.S. in origin as they keep refering to $US....well guess what...systems are naturally cheaper in your country as a lot of the items you say cost $500 or less are made in your country. The numbers are roughly the same in Europe but when you consider the exchange rate it is then that you see the difference in cost ie what costs you $500 costs us around Sterling 500+. Now convert using a ratio of 1-1.6......OH!! lets see....for a low range pc that mp wont last more than a year its gonna cost me USD$750+ just to play till the next ******* comes along with a great idea of not allowing SSE* support....get off your fat arses and realise that we are not all as priveled as the rest of you....if it wasnt for our meager support you wouldnt have a game to play either.

Originally by: Jowdra
CAN I HAZ YOUR STUFFZ?


in short, NO
in length, go and play for your own stuff , lazy frack

sukmanobov
Minmatar
The Priesthood
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:32:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: sukmanobov on 19/01/2011 23:41:40
Edited by: sukmanobov on 19/01/2011 23:40:46
Actualy getting back to the "you can buy a CPU on ebay for $10" bit thats asuming he has a socket 478 board (granted u could have a Celron here)? weill he'd be running a P4 anyway, or maybe a Socket A board? well all AMD XP chips including the barnton use SSE1. So that leaves LGA775 the P4, Celron, dual core etc... all run SSE2 most have 3 and 4.

these style board were consumer based. there is xenon board etc... but we'll leave trying to play any game on a server based board.

So that would leave him with a board that can't be upgraded to a chip that supports SSE2

in anycase if your still running anything except maybe a P4 HT 3ghz, or Barton 3400+ with atleast 2GB ram. you couldn't realy run Flash 10 effectively so that rules out alot the youtube content, and websites like Epson, Dell, etc. that are flash heavy would be painfully slow so an upgrade would be recomended. you could buy a LGA775 based board with a celron + 1GB DDR2 for about 40 50 / euro. no idea in $'s tho. if your realy getting paid that low my god you need a new job. or your paying to much on rent etc...
Originally by: Dare Knight
Edited by: Dare Knight on 19/01/2011 05:09:06
Edited by: Dare Knight on 19/01/2011 05:07:38
Originally by: Mr Cumblaster
check the date b4 you run your mouth on subjects that you are not familiar with....1 1/2 day notice to change a pc is a large ask of anyone


Guess I was wrong to keep up with the world of technology even moderately knowing I was playing a genre of game that evolves over time and adapts new tech. Who'd have ever thought. Did I say above that 2 days was enough time to update a pc? No. Read before opening that hole in your face, good sir.

(SSE2.... 8 years old....)


This is to funny!Laughing

Neonoodle
Caldari
UNITED KINGDOM MAYHEM
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:35:00 - [77]
 

WEll maybe post your specs to see if anyone can help you out, or give advie on what you could fit to get you back up and running?

Caiman Graystock
Caldari
Cornelius Starship and Computer Design
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:36:00 - [78]
 

is this guy playing out of cardboard box on a street corner? geez

Owledge
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:43:00 - [79]
 

Edited by: Owledge on 19/01/2011 23:45:58
I'm trying to imagine CCP announcing that the latest patch won't run on the latest graphics hardware, claiming that it's still "too new". Sounds perfectly reasonable, no? Takes time to develop for brand new things. Then the people with a lot of money (but also those who saved a long time for it) would complain without end and others could say: Why are you whining? If you have the money to spend $2000 on a computer, you also have the $400 for another, less new graphics card. Wink

But still I have to remember that the main point is the lack of advance information. Even if CCP didn't know what they were buying there... should it be like that in game development? You buy a product, get an update and no info that backwards-compatibility is reduced? Regardless of where you want to see the 'guilt' for what happened, the complaints are justified. And apparently CCP at least acknowledges this, since they offer refund for subscription time you can't spend playing.
So the people here dissing the complainers might after all defend a standpoint other than CCP's.

Originally by: Dare Knight
Darwinism - The elimination of p.o.s. hardware as a result of the natural rapid evolution of technology. ...

But when humans want to take Darwinist mechanics into their own hands, it becomes social darwinism. And that usually results in a form of free market capitalism that quickly turns into deep socialism as soon as the 'freedom-lovers' mess things up.
(I hope I didn't digress too much.)

Akor Flandres
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:47:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Akor Flandres on 19/01/2011 23:48:14
Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
Originally by: Jowdra
CAN I HAZ YOUR STUFFZ?


in short, NO
in length, go and play for your own stuff , lazy frack


GET A JOB

Eulysees Chelt
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:50:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Neonoodle
WEll maybe post your specs to see if anyone can help you out, or give advie on what you could fit to get you back up and running?


It's a nice thought and ty for showing positivity but I have enquired and it would need to be a complete surgical makeover unfortunately

Originally by: Caiman Graystock
is this guy playing out of cardboard box on a street corner? geez


If I were, would it make a difference to you ? please stop being so fracking negative as my rl money is every bit as good as anyone elses...makes no odds as to how I pay or play, the mere fact that I do means that I should, as a paying member of this community, have access to this sort of info well in advance and not have it dumped on my doorstep 36hrs before they say "OH ?!! sorry...didnt we mention that you wouldn't have access to the game when we told you of all the exciting stuff we're doing that'll be for wealthy ppl only?" Go get a pair and a reason to be here before you critique my abilities

Eulysees Chelt
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:52:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Akor Flandres
Edited by: Akor Flandres on 19/01/2011 23:48:14 GET A JOB


GOT ONE TY>>>>DONT NEED TO ADD ANOTHER ONE OF "SPOT THE JERK WHO IS TOO LAZY TO READ ALL THE POSTS B4 RUNNING HIS MOUTH OFF"
BUT TY FOR YOUR INCITEFUL ADJUNCT TOSSPOT

sukmanobov
Minmatar
The Priesthood
The 0rphanage
Posted - 2011.01.19 23:58:00 - [83]
 

Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
Originally by: Akor Flandres
Edited by: Akor Flandres on 19/01/2011 23:48:14 GET A JOB


GOT ONE TY>>>>DONT NEED TO ADD ANOTHER ONE OF "SPOT THE JERK WHO IS TOO LAZY TO READ ALL THE POSTS B4 RUNNING HIS MOUTH OFF"
BUT TY FOR YOUR INCITEFUL ADJUNCT TOSSPOT


if you live in scotland Give me all your stuffz and i'll send you my spare celron, xfx 750i board? just make sure theres a couple of titans in there Laughing

Akor Flandres
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:06:00 - [84]
 

Originally by: Space Miyabi
Guys, Windows XP is 10 years old and it is fully supported. For those who say that "your system is too old" (well it runs eve FINE) I would like to see if CCP makes EVE only for windows 7.

Windows XP users would rage.

HEY TROLL WHEN LESS THAN 0.5% OF PEOPLE USE WINDOWS XP COME BACK TO MAKE YOUR POINT

Eulysees Chelt
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:08:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: sukmanobov

if you live in scotland Give me all your stuffz and i'll send you my spare celron, xfx 750i board? just make sure theres a couple of titans in there [:lol:




If I wanted to be stitched up I'd stay in game and goto jita....but ty for the kind offer...not

Akor Flandres
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:12:00 - [86]
 

Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
Originally by: Akor Flandres
Edited by: Akor Flandres on 19/01/2011 23:48:14 GET A JOB


GOT ONE TY>>>>DONT NEED TO ADD ANOTHER ONE OF "SPOT THE JERK WHO IS TOO LAZY TO READ ALL THE POSTS B4 RUNNING HIS MOUTH OFF"
BUT TY FOR YOUR INCITEFUL ADJUNCT TOSSPOT

THEN STOP WHINGING, GO UPGRADE YOUR CENTURY OLD TECH THIS IS 2011 WHY SHOULD CCP SUPPORT LESS THAN 0.5% OF PLAYERS TOO CHEAP TO SPEND 10 BUCKS ON AN 8 YEAR OLD PROCESSER CCP BANNED 10 TIMES THE NUMBER OF PAYING SUBSCRIBERS YOU AND YOUR ILK REPRESENT THE CHINESE BOTTERS WHO PROBABLY HAVE EVEN LESS MONEY TO THEIR NAME THAN YOU BUT LIKELY RUN HARDWARE THAT WASN'T DESIGNED AND BUILT IN THE 17TH CENTURY

Eulysees Chelt
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:13:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Akor Flandres
HEY TROLL WHEN LESS THAN 0.5% OF PEOPLE USE WINDOWS XP COME BACK TO MAKE YOUR POINT


and you got this figure from who ? Oh...thats right...CCP....they said that a survey said.....and who was there to survey ALL the actual users of the game ? thats right...no-one...even in their own sticky it says that their own testers had the very same probs as a lot of us are having so what is your point? oh I see...the point you're making is that you have greater access to being an a55hole....I bow to your smelliness

Mr Cumblaster
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:22:00 - [88]
 

Just because ppl think you are a fool doesn't mean you have to open your mouth and proove them right
Try reading the sticky on this issue and you will see that the testers had the same issue....or are you so dumb that you think the testers are behind the times too ? They are supposed to be representative of the client base but CCP carried on regardless

Akor Flandres
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:38:00 - [89]
 

Originally by: Eulysees Chelt
Originally by: Akor Flandres
HEY TROLL WHEN LESS THAN 0.5% OF PEOPLE USE WINDOWS XP COME BACK TO MAKE YOUR POINT


and you got this figure from who ? Oh...thats right...CCP....they said that a survey said.....and who was there to survey ALL the actual users of the game ? thats right...no-one...even in their own sticky it says that their own testers had the very same probs as a lot of us are having so what is your point? oh I see...the point you're making is that you have greater access to being an a55hole....I bow to your smelliness

DUDE. 8 YEARS. EVEN TRAMPS HAVE IPHONES THESE DAYS. SPEND 10 BUCKS. SORT YOUR SELF OUT.

Akor Flandres
Posted - 2011.01.20 00:42:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Mr Cumblaster
Just because ppl think you are a fool doesn't mean you have to open your mouth and proove them right
Try reading the sticky on this issue and you will see that the testers had the same issue....or are you so dumb that you think the testers are behind the times too ? They are supposed to be representative of the client base but CCP carried on regardless

I HAVE SEEN NO MORE THAN 10 PEOPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT THIS. IF CCP ARE LIARS LIKE YOU SUPPOSE, WHERE ARE YOUR ARMIES OF TENS OF THOUSANDS OF AFFECTED CUSTOMERS?


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