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Alicina Goodbody
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:14:00 - [121]
 

Cross posted from this morning's whine fest thread:

There was no need to change a basic key combo to exit the game.

To get back your <ctl>Q exit:

1. escape
2. Shortcuts panel
3. General sub-panel
4. select Quit game

Anastrianna StormHeart
Gallente
Confederation of Malefactors
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:15:00 - [122]
 

Character creation is sweet as. For everyone dissing it for what ever reason, have a care. This is the first game I've played that gives you this much customization on character creation. Also it is their first attempt at this, so how about offering some creative criticism, instead of things like "it's crap".

Do you honestly think other games that offer character customization got it perfect on their first attempt??

I've noted some people complaining that there aren't a lot of clothing options, well if they had taken the time to do some research or watch some vids from fanfest, they would know that when Incarna comes out, you the player will be able to go and make new clothes (they will be a blue print item like everything else in Eve) you want it, you make it.

Now as for my first impressions, I found the character creator fun to play around with. The loss of sliders was a sensational idea, as there is now HEAPS more control over the parts you can modify.

Its like the Steering wheel VS gamepad argument in car driving games, a game pad arrow press will give you a full quarter turn, the analog sticks give you more control, but still not as smooth as the steering wheel will allow.

The sliders while giving a bunch of options were limited in what you could and couldn't change, with the "grab and drag" method given to us now, you can get that cheekbone to be exactly where you want it, and that left eye just the right tilt while offsetting the focus point for the eye.

As for the overall game play, I haven't had any problems, if anything Eve runs better now, that it did before the patch. I love the weapon grouping changes, I'm sure once people use them with in the middle of a fleet fight they will come to love them too.

IE. You undock with your fancy new Myrm fit, set your guns to 2 groups, thus giving you the option to fire at two targets at once. ALAS, your fleet commander is only calling one target at a time, so your wasting time by firing off two groups, so you make it one group.

Old method.
Unload all charges (10 seconds).
Click enter grouping mode.
Clear all groups.
Make a new single group.
Exit grouping mode.
Reload charges (10 Seconds).

That's at least 30 second of work, and in a fleet fight that's an eternity.

New Method.
Enter grouping mode.
Click and drag one group onto the other group.
Exit grouping mode.
Done. Fire away.

Maybe 5 seconds of work. Happy Days. (Insert Fonzy Aaay! Here)

Incursions, OH GOD WHERE DID THE NIGHTMARES COME FROM!!!!
This is going to be FUN Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

Contract changes, this will eliminate a lot of confusion for new players, awesome.

I don't use Eve gate much, so I cant really comment on the changes, but on paper they look like good changes and features.

PI. If you are really into your PI, the new changes are pretty cool, I tried my hand at it when it came out, I liked it a lot, but if left me hanging for something more, that proverbial high 5 maybe, and now, we get that high 5.

UI fixes and features, AWESOME, a new ere in internet spaceships.

Overall first impressions are pretty good for me. There isn't anything on the patch notes I read and was all like "WHAT? NO!!! THAT'S CRAP!!!!!" All the changes, fixes, new features are appealing to me, and I'm sure new players too (and maybe some returning players as well).

If anything, the only quibble I have is that when using the new character creator, the hair wouldn't sit, it kept moving around like it was colliding with invisible walls, but this only happened when I was zoomed up on the bust view.

Apart from that though I'm well happy with the new patch, (as I have been with all previous patches).

In closing a good 10/10 from me, and these words.

To everyone using the new patch, have a care, give CCP some credit where credit is due. Servers haven't even been up for a full 2 hours yet, constructive criticism, is the name of the game folks, it's the only way you will get changes made to things you don't like.

Orca04
Gallente
Tactical Delivery
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:15:00 - [123]
 

Edited by: Orca04 on 18/01/2011 18:18:33
What happened to tattoos on gallente males? I don't want to remake my character without the tattoo,
Also on the Amarr the robe doesn't look like it wants to stay with the arm.

Imiarr Timshae
Caldari
Funny Men In Funny Hats
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:17:00 - [124]
 

Originally by: Orca04
What happened to tattoos on gallente males? I don't want to remake my character without the tattoo


You just got shafted™, it's a new feature!

Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:19:00 - [125]
 

Originally by: Takashi X2
I love how noone in this thread ever check out the Character creator on Sisi when it was out. I for one did and was satified with the resualt. Im pretty sure there adding some stuff for isk and some premium stuff for rl moneys for cosmetic stuff like clothes and implants. None of this should be new to anyone and anyone who *****es doesnt have the right unless they were on sisi first and gave feedback so CCP actually had feedback. I hate when players are given the opportunity to make a difference then go **** it i dont care then ***** and complain when stuff goes live.

Really?

Rac1mir
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:19:00 - [126]
 

Seriously, CCP?
What have the poor Intakis done to you, to deserve such a cruel fate of mandatory haircut? In old character editor, they used to have several different long hairstyles.
Now I can choose between 4 types of bald, several short hair, and dreadlocks.
Some loose, longer hair, a ponytail, and perhaps a braid - is that really too much to ask?

Tom Catcher
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 - [127]
 

Am i totaly not getting eve-voice on eve gate or am i not getting it?

John Lascaris
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 - [128]
 

PI Issue,

Anyone else having this problem? When I create more than one head on a extractor, it breaks the route I had established between the extractor and the launchpad, and when I try to recreate the route, it won't allow me.

Any ideas?

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 - [129]
 

I am completely underwhelmed by the new char creation tool. So friggin little options in clothing I thought I was missing some buttons at first...

And I tried to make my gallente female look like an old hag. Best I could do was a mid twenty woman who was not in the very best shape she could be in but who is prolly still hotter and more beautifull than 99% of all women irl....

Underwhelming, I certainly hope we get to redesign our chars again once you get this thing out of it's beta-testing Laughing

Waaaaaagggh
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:20:00 - [130]
 

Where's the new neocom and contracts system?? ughugh

Royaldo
Gallente
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:21:00 - [131]
 

ECT's can only mine 1 type of material at a time?

DOA KillerWolf
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:23:00 - [132]
 

Originally by: Waaaaaagggh
Where's the new neocom and contracts system?? ughugh


I am wondering the same thing? I saw mention of it in the Patch Notes but no where to be found in game!

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:23:00 - [133]
 

CCP, can we please have a promise that the art assets that certain races have will be available to other races soon?

Turelus
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:25:00 - [134]
 

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 16:54:22

Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished



Character Creation :

1. No Black Hair.

2. COLOSSAL lack of clothing. (Are we going to have to pay real money to look good? Nice little earner CCP.)
Do you want this shirt or.... this shirt?

3. Character Creator seems to be a body sculpting utility and little else. Alteration of all body parts is fluid and flawless. Only problem is we HAVE to dress them, thus we HAVE to look awful.

4. The guy I am trying to edit WILL NOT HOLD STILL.

Reccomended : DO NOT UPDATE YOUR CHARACTER - Wait until they fix it (Being released in another two years?)

CCP : Making ingame avatars more important in gameplay whilst also utterly limiting player choice in variation and style.

All of those issues were brought up while it was on SISI time and time again and there was nothing done. I think after a point they must of just said "this is it" and stopped taking feedback.
I was holding out hope that SISI was just a test version and we would be blown away by the release on TQ but that didn't happen. I'm interested to see how this goes over the next few weeks and if CCP are willing to listen to the more constructive issues and complaints and work on them or if they just ignore it and continue on.

I'm glad to see I am not the only one massively ****ed off by the update though.

Mafioso Bocci
Amarr
The Alteran Brethren
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:26:00 - [135]
 

Although I find the lack of options in the character creation rather depressing, the actual mechanics of the character editor are really well done. It flows extremely well and allows you to easily changed and edit body features. So land us some more options and I think you'd make the community much happier.

JooJoo Akarr
Minmatar
Territorial Western Alliance of Higher Technology
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:27:00 - [136]
 

Edited by: JooJoo Akarr on 18/01/2011 18:27:09
I love it. Character customization right now is great for a first release. I'm sure it will only be improved upon even more in the near future. For all of those who are having tech difficulties with it hopefully you can get it fixed soon =( For those of you haters, stop blaming CCP on your inability to be a little creative with the abundance of options you have =P

Iraherag
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 - [137]
 

http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1450614

All I can say is: Yay, you did it again.

Again you are unable to deliver a precise, consistent and clear message before introducing a change and need to add explanations and details afterwards.

Is it really that hard to clearly express how a feature will behave in advance?
Do you actually prefer to get an additional influx of petitions and answering/explaining on the forums over just writing a clear and unambigious statement?

It's not like your petition system is craving for more inquiries...

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 - [138]
 

Originally by: Turelus
All of those issues were brought up while it was on SISI time and time again and there was nothing done. I think after a point they must of just said "this is it" and stopped taking feedback.
I was holding out hope that SISI was just a test version and we would be blown away by the release on TQ but that didn't happen. I'm interested to see how this goes over the next few weeks and if CCP are willing to listen to the more constructive issues and complaints and work on them or if they just ignore it and continue on.

I'm glad to see I am not the only one massively ****ed off by the update though.


Not by a long shot, mate.

Jia When
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 - [139]
 

Changing market orders caused the cursor to appear in the numbers field before this patch. This is not the case anymore. So you're forced to do additional clickwork everytime changing an order. As there is obvious no benefit of this change but a lot of unnecessary extra work, please change this back to the pre-patch-state.

Freelancer117
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 - [140]
 

Edited by: Freelancer117 on 18/01/2011 18:50:03
Edited by: Freelancer117 on 18/01/2011 18:48:42
Edited by: Freelancer117 on 18/01/2011 18:46:01
Edited by: Freelancer117 on 18/01/2011 18:28:55
Originally by: Maaltor
Originally by: Freelancer117
oh my 3D MMO's, where are the good old times ?

Gone sowy ugh

oh fyi Walking in Stations this summer 2011, can i have your stuff if you quit ?


Well isn't that pretty stupid? I just want to fly around in ships, I don't want to have to recreate my character - it was fine how it was the first time. As it is I can't recreate them anyway - the 'things' my character had aren't an option any more Rolling Eyes


https://image.eveonline.com/Character/668773800_512.jpg

http://image.eveonline.com/Character/797616822_512.jpg

http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8200/mehcz.png

http://img560.imageshack.us/img560/9125/croppercapture84.jpg

nuf said ugh

Catari Taga
Centre Of Attention
Middle of Nowhere
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:28:00 - [141]
 

Originally by: Takashi X2
I love how noone in this thread ever check out the Character creator on Sisi when it was out. I for one did and was satified with the resualt. Im pretty sure there adding some stuff for isk and some premium stuff for rl moneys for cosmetic stuff like clothes and implants. None of this should be new to anyone and anyone who *****es doesnt have the right unless they were on sisi first and gave feedback so CCP actually had feedback. I hate when players are given the opportunity to make a difference then go **** it i dont care then ***** and complain when stuff goes live.

I tell CCP they are ******ed every chance I get so STFU

Alastanir
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:30:00 - [142]
 

Edited by: Alastanir on 18/01/2011 18:31:59


To all the whiners:

Would you like a straw? You know, so you can suck it up? Very Happy

madBadger
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:32:00 - [143]
 

Had issues with long hair in Character Creation. Long hair would render fine on the face pre portrait, then when I hit next to deal with my portrait the long hair on the right side of the face would intrude INTO the skin of the face. Hit back, looks fine in the character creation, go forward to portrait again and same issue, ended up having to make the face really thin so the hair would not get stuck inside of the skin :/ Little things like that make it look really sloppy.

Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:33:00 - [144]
 

Originally by: Alastanir
To all the whiners:

Would you like a straw? You know, so you can suck it up?


CCP asks for feedback, they get feedback. If you can't deal with the fact that some people didn't like the half-finished, unfair version of the editor CCP released, I suggest it's you who needs the straw.

Dirk Decibel
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:33:00 - [145]
 

Originally by: JooJoo Akarr
Edited by: JooJoo Akarr on 18/01/2011 18:27:09
I love it. Character customization right now is great for a first release. I'm sure it will only be improved upon even more in the near future. For all of those who are having tech difficulties with it hopefully you can get it fixed soon =( For those of you haters, stop blaming CCP on your inability to be a little creative with the abundance of options you have =P
You seem to know a different CCP than the one making this game ey? Laughing

Twistator
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:36:00 - [146]
 

like my pic, but the mini chat version looks crappy imoh :/

Gonad Vulva
The Amen Brotherhood
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:38:00 - [147]
 

Originally by: Dirk Decibel

And I tried to make my gallente female look like an old hag. Best I could do was a mid twenty woman who was not in the very best shape she could be in but who is prolly still hotter and more beautifull than 99% of all women irl....



Laughing

But seriously though, all day I've been looking forward to turning my sexy female probing alt into something that resembles the lovechild of Jackie Stallone and Sloth from The Goonies. Are you telling me that this won't be possible? ugh

Alastanir
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:39:00 - [148]
 

Originally by: Andreus Ixiris

CCP asks for feedback, they get feedback. If you can't deal with the fact that some people didn't like the half-finished, unfair version of the editor CCP released, I suggest it's you who needs the straw.


I happen to like what the developers and artists have offered us. My feedback is positive. Very Happy

Royaldo
Gallente
Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk Amarr branch.
Sev3rance
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:40:00 - [149]
 

Originally by: Royaldo
ECT's can only mine 1 type of material at a time?


ConfusedYes only 1 type of material can be mined at a time from ect's.
Suddenly Im 3300 grid short on my plama planets.

Thanks for this "boost".
You were supposed to reduce clicks, not nerf it. This is so god damned annoying.

Naradak
Minmatar
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:40:00 - [150]
 

This. Very well said.

PI is so much better. Those who complain must not know how to adapt.

Once you adapt, it's heavenly. Thank you, CCP, from the core of my planets. ;D

Character creator is sweet as well (need my Minmatar tattoos though).

Kudos for shortcut implementation too.

Can't wait to try the incursions!


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