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Shurikane
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:27:00 - [691]
 

Hi CCP!


WISHLIST FOR CHARACTER CREATOR:

  • The ability to open up the character posing interface, at will, in order to snap pictures that I can save on my local hard disk.

  • When previewing my face before saving, I would like to see both the scaled-down and a full-screen rendition of it.

  • Add the ability to re-pose and re-snap every so often (a la neural remap available once every 365 days). No changes to body build, but allow changes to clothes, makeup, accessories and posture.




WISHLIST FOR PI:

  • Enlarge the timer slider, as the current one is too sensitive. I think it should at least twice longer.

  • Include a scale on the timer so I can quickly click the time I want without trial and error.

  • Add the ability to turn auto-update on or off on the histogram (the auto-update causes stuttering for me.)

  • Add the ability to save a few "time shortcuts", so I can quick-select run times on my extractors.


Crazy Dave
Caldari
SCAVENGERS
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:34:00 - [692]
 

Edited by: Crazy Dave on 20/01/2011 16:41:20
I can see the issues that people are having with their character recreation. I have to concure that a lot more could have been done to make it better. However I was able to make it work and came out with something I halfway like. Unfortunately I see a lot of people shop at the same store I did. I hope that this is a work in progress issue and that as updates are made to the creator, we will be able to update our characters accordingly until the last touches are made.

I like what was done with the PI and real glad that Operation Click Fest finally came to a successful end. That we were all able to achieve or goals with only our fingers complaining. However, although a minor thing. I wish I had realized that one extractor had 10 heads on it. Which is a HUGE plus. I'll have to wait 14 days for the restart process so I can't comment on that yet.

My main issue I have is with the incursion nerfings and seemingly forced pvp/e issue. My connection will not let me participate in PvP. Let me rephrase that. I can but I will explode before I know what hit me. My connection is satellite based and as such I have to send a signal 40+k miles up in the air and another 40+k miles back down causing lag issues. Verizon wont open up any DSL or Fios lines out where I live. Leaving my only option 56k dial up. I think that incursion encounters should not be nerfed system wide. Just in random localized areas where the fight is. If its in a belt, at a station, planets and moons. Then that is where the nerfings should take place. For those that can not participate in the incursion either by choice or otherwise, missions and other areas should be left unhindered or at least randomized better without nerfing the entire system or penalizing those that wont or cant participate for what ever reason. I am hoping this issue will be addressed and corrected to show recognition that some people can't PvP rather than wont.

Trust me I do want to PvP unfortunately atm I can not. When the day comes that I can there are going to be a few dozen pirates that I will be paying a visit to. Yes I keep a hit list at home for the right day to come along. Twisted Evil In the mean time I am content with co op transporting, mining, building, exploring and mission running. All good things come to those who wait.....Eventually. Or so i was told anyways Laughing

From what I seen, I like, especially with the PI. Is the retriever 24k gold or is it plate? Laughing

The Cursed
Generals Of Destruction Syndicate
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:40:00 - [693]
 



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I would like to thank CCP for taking away my portrait this morning. I've had that same picture since beta and enjoyed it tbh but for some reason without asking me some ****** working for ccp thought it would be a good idea to get rid of it and replace it with something that looks nothing like my old picture!!!!!!!!!! How am I suppose to keep the image of a mean looking guy when you give me nothing but dresses and formal cloths to wear along with makeup. I'm not a new age hipster or some dress wearing priest. I was a ****ed of drunk mean looking bald guy with a spider tat on my forhead which i cant get back now.Thanks for f&cking up one of the last few things in this game that made me orig from the start. I mean really go f@ck yourself assh#les.
The Cursed
Member of GODS
Beer em good!!!!!!!!!!!!

washy2
Caldari
Angle Of Attack
Frontier Exploratory Logistics
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:52:00 - [694]
 

Originally by: The Cursed


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I would like to thank CCP for taking away my portrait this morning. I've had that same picture since beta and enjoyed it tbh but for some reason without asking me some ****** working for ccp thought it would be a good idea to get rid of it and replace it with something that looks nothing like my old picture!!!!!!!!!! How am I suppose to keep the image of a mean looking guy when you give me nothing but dresses and formal cloths to wear along with makeup. I'm not a new age hipster or some dress wearing priest. I was a ****ed of drunk mean looking bald guy with a spider tat on my forhead which i cant get back now.Thanks for f&cking up one of the last few things in this game that made me orig from the start. I mean really go f@ck yourself assh#les.
The Cursed
Member of GODS
Beer em good!!!!!!!!!!!!



Damn...ure ugly nowLaughing

Crazy Dave
Caldari
SCAVENGERS
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:57:00 - [695]
 

The 1980's called, they want their sunglasses back. Please give us more styles to choose from. I stopped wearing 1980's aviator glasses a long time ago. Cool

Sannye
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:17:00 - [696]
 

Charecter generator is ok... i expected alot more, but meh, i really dont care for charecters, i play this game for the ships.

However, the rest of the game suffers alot from this "update". Overview is totally useless, doesnt update unless you click it (enemys long dead is still flashy red). Neutrals doesn't show up in local - or overview. Corp/alliance mates showing up with red skull, no blue/green stars.

That's just the start. The gamespeed is reduced to maybe 1/5 of pre-incarna. FPS is a term of the past, now you should measure Frames Pr Min instead!

What really upsets me, is that most of theese "bugs" were actually repported on the test server forums, yet CCP still run this bugfilled piece of #"#%& that should have been fix'd before the launch.


The cableguy
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:21:00 - [697]
 

Portrait issue with Amarr cloaks. Had the hood down during picture taking, but when I got in game its up and obscures my pretty face. Please fix.

<--- this character has the issue

Cathy Drall
Amarr
Royal Amarr Institute
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:35:00 - [698]
 

Did I already say that I really regret it that the options for all characters have changed at random and that I can't re-create any of my characters because of skin tone, eyes, hairstyle, hair colour and such?

Why-o-why did you do that?

Change my ships all you like but please don't change most of my characters into something I can't relate to anymore.

Renegade Leader
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:37:00 - [699]
 

Originally by: The cableguy
Portrait issue with Amarr cloaks. Had the hood down during picture taking, but when I got in game its up and obscures my pretty face. Please fix.

<--- this character has the issue



Yeah please fix Obiwan's cloak.

Mr Cleann
Caldari
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:39:00 - [700]
 

Originally by: Cathy Drall
Did I already say that I really regret it that the options for all characters have changed at random and that I can't re-create any of my characters because of skin tone, eyes, hairstyle, hair colour and such?

Why-o-why did you do that?

Change my ships all you like but please don't change most of my characters into something I can't relate to anymore.


Wern't you on M.A.S.H.? Very Happy

Vicceroni
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:39:00 - [701]
 

Edited by: Vicceroni on 20/01/2011 18:00:47
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto
Originally by: Vicceroni
Originally by: Inquisitor Magneto
Edited by: Inquisitor Magneto on 19/01/2011 18:55:54
not to be evil or point to out some bad mallice on ccp part but, anyone notice you cant really change the skin color of your amarr race character. I do not now about other race characters but, I was given 4 shades of carcassion color. so i have pale white, white, white with a light tan and then white with some reddish tan. I would not want to think this new system portrays limitation with what color your character can be. in short are there only white people as characters in the amarr empire? Like i said I am not interrested in thoughts or opinions just a true and focused answer about the system itself.


Yep, Amarr are crotchety old white folks. It's like asking why your human cant have purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged!


There is no proof that all the families are white. their are 5 families besides the emperor who help govern the amarr empire so lets have a bit more diversity in skin color. While i did not say i wanted "purple skin like an elf, or metal strips intertwined with sinew like a warforged" as a color as that is not a human color. one thing is clear on this planet called earth we do have different races with different skin colors. so dont be to ignorant when it comes to color in a world of humans who are not all white. Thanks


Quit trolling me and calling me ignorant for referring to the lore of the game. If you didn't want a crotchety old white person as a character then reroll a caldari or something. So I made a D&D reference, a bit of an exaggeration but come on, it's an avatar in a game we're talking about, not human rights and racism.

Earth? Is that near Tash-Murkon? I think my Amarr toon was genetically engineered to suit Amarrian society's tastes and born out of a capsule at the biological age of 80.

Northern Europeans are white skinned. So are Amarr. Deal with it?

lskman
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:41:00 - [702]
 

Heya

When setting/changing prices in the market, the price field is not activating automatically, like it used to be. Sounds like a minor problem, but trust me, it makes a traders life unnecessarily hard. I think this can be fixed easy, eh?

A few words to the character creator...
moar clothes, moar glasses, moar hats, moar tattoos, MOAR CLOTHES
bettah clothes, bettah hair, bettah beards, BETTAH CLOTHES

The new creator has potential, please use it!

Iskdude.

Wolf Spyder
Posted - 2011.01.20 18:07:00 - [703]
 

Edited by: Wolf Spyder on 20/01/2011 18:23:25
Originally by: Crazy Dave
Edited by: Crazy Dave on 20/01/2011 16:41:20
I can see the issues that people are having with their character recreation. I have to concure that a lot more could have been done to make it better. However I was able to make it work and came out with something I halfway like. Unfortunately I see a lot of people shop at the same store I did. I hope that this is a work in progress issue and that as updates are made to the creator, we will be able to update our characters accordingly until the last touches are made.

I like what was done with the PI and real glad that Operation Click Fest finally came to a successful end. That we were all able to achieve or goals with only our fingers complaining. However, although a minor thing. I wish I had realized that one extractor had 10 heads on it. Which is a HUGE plus. I'll have to wait 14 days for the restart process so I can't comment on that yet.

My main issue I have is with the incursion nerfings and seemingly forced pvp/e issue. My connection will not let me participate in PvP. Let me rephrase that. I can but I will explode before I know what hit me. My connection is satellite based and as such I have to send a signal 40+k miles up in the air and another 40+k miles back down causing lag issues. Verizon wont open up any DSL or Fios lines out where I live. Leaving my only option 56k dial up. I think that incursion encounters should not be nerfed system wide. Just in random localized areas where the fight is. If its in a belt, at a station, planets and moons. Then that is where the nerfings should take place. For those that can not participate in the incursion either by choice or otherwise, missions and other areas should be left unhindered or at least randomized better without nerfing the entire system or penalizing those that wont or cant participate for what ever reason. I am hoping this issue will be addressed and corrected to show recognition that some people can't PvP rather than wont.

Trust me I do want to PvP unfortunately atm I can not. When the day comes that I can there are going to be a few dozen pirates that I will be paying a visit to. Yes I keep a hit list at home for the right day to come along. Twisted Evil In the mean time I am content with co op transporting, mining, building, exploring and mission running. All good things come to those who wait.....Eventually. Or so i was told anyways Laughing

From what I seen, I like, especially with the PI. Is the retriever 24k gold or is it plate? Laughing


I too have the same issues with regards to the nerfings that occur system wide. I also have a bad connection that makes PvP unenjoyable. If I PvP I lose. Period. And its not due to wrong fittings (sometimes that is the case). It is lag related issues. Last time i did a ping I got 1038ms of lag. Where I live I have zero options available. All my stuff is satellite based right down to my phone. When all these penalties that occur I will be forced to either dock or log off for a few hours to give the incursion time to pass. If it is too frequent to the point that I am not getting my monies worth out of it then I will seek my entertainment elsewhere. I hope CCP does take that issue to heart and make adjustments accordingly.....

Tipsy
Gallente
X-Factor Industries
Synthetic Existence
Posted - 2011.01.20 20:18:00 - [704]
 

Please make the grey background for the world information optional, or at least make it scale to the width that is required for the essential text (ie. system names) after each jump. I play EVE in a window at 1024*768 and the grey boxes are 1/3 empty and are a distraction from the game environment. It should also be possible to turn off the display of constellation names in travel info - as it's possible to do this for the system you're already in it only seems consistent to allow it for autopilot information.

This is actually one of my bugbears with the EVE UI as a whole - there's a lot of empty space around the actual hard information. I like the pretty icons and text which tell you what the window does, but couldn't there be a way of filling this function without occupying so much (vertical in particular) space?
ugh

Jojico Dian
Posted - 2011.01.20 20:54:00 - [705]
 

I really missed an undo option in the character creation system. Subtle changes to the shape of the face are quite hard to undo. I'd be satisfied with even just 1 undo depth.

I hear you're making it possible to reportrait characters in future updates, I only ask that you do not allow changing face/gender type/muscularity. Please let hair be changeable too, and makeup. I would love an option to go back to the character creation system just to look at the entire character's body.

The fact that I can even change the size of calves or arms means that we can walk around in stations soon, right? Let me assure you, I would PAY THROUGH THE NOSE(in ISK) for clothes if station exploring becomes a reality. I think a whole market could spring up just around clothes. On that note, why aren't there any skirts, only pants?

Other than that, I'm very satisfied with this update. The character creation has enormous potential, and I hope it doesn't stay confined to just the beginning of one's journey through EVE Online (i.e. please let us walk around in stations soon!). Sadly, I'm not keeping my hopes up, since you guys have been talking about that since 2006. At least let us return to the character creation screen once in a while, it's incredibly fun.

Slave slaver
Posted - 2011.01.20 21:35:00 - [706]
 

Many constructive critic but not any reply from CCP.

Not a sentence like "Exploding PI pices is what we wanted."/"We want the Amarr look differnet to Minmatar" neither "Oops - we will fix that.".

:*(

Khandu Eesi
Minmatar
EVE University
Ivy League
Posted - 2011.01.20 21:36:00 - [707]
 

Don't know if anyone is still having the problem of character creator hanging up at 100% loaded but I finally got mine to work (on low settings).
I cleared my cache, quit the program, and (in windows XP) went to control panel >> device manager. Updated the video drivers via the option in the manager..
Started EVE and from the initial login screen, went to settings and optimized graphics for performance and applied.
I was then able to get past the "loading character creator" screen and succeeded in creating a character for an alt. Gonna mess around a bit and see if I can get better graphics running before I start on my main.

Amon Shirr
Posted - 2011.01.20 21:50:00 - [708]
 

Ok, first off I really like the way the new portraits look, simply gorgeus. But;

All that fuss, and that massivly elaborate creator. Chars having movement and such. And all you get from it is a portrait? Very uninspired in my humble opinion. If you make this sort of thing, do it all the way: Live portraits, that blink, make faces, smile laugh and frown. Give us voices so that when we blow eachother up, we see the face of our victim and hear them scream. That would have made this whole customization alot more interresting, and add a whole new level of depth to eve in general. Heck, we could even add this to rats, giving even trivial NPCs a little life.
To be honest I was sorely dissapointed that I didn't even have the 4 snaps available when I got into the game... even that would have made it just a little bit better.
Truthfully, it was actually quite a hollow feeling comming into the game again.

Now the creator looks great, but the choises within each race is horribly poor. The fact that you have so blatantly boxed the different races into steriotypes is horrible, and downgrades the diversity of the game. Sure, amarr males looked old before too, but this was a golden oppertunity to remedy that mistake. Not to mention the lack of choises in clothing hairstyles etc, as metionend before in this long thread. Don't you(CCP) dare start charging real money for those future costumization options Evil or Very Mad Would have much preferred that they were here allready, in the creator, where they are supposed to be.

Now... no more new things, no more inovations or ideas! Eve is a huge game, and it is absolutely packed with things that don't work. Sooooo many things that needs some love. So please please please, don't make more new stuff that breaks old, and old new stuff...
Overall: Not up to par. Could have been great, but isn't. Not as bad as apocrapha though, i'll give ccp that much. (That really was the worstest patch in mmorpg history, yuk!)

Sludgeface
Posted - 2011.01.20 22:01:00 - [709]
 

I know it's been brought up several times already but

"Some players are unable to remove neutral pilots from the overview."

..is really causing a lot of problems, and needs to be repaired/restored to its former functionality.

Please?

Shurikane
Posted - 2011.01.20 22:07:00 - [710]
 

Originally by: Amon Shirr
All that fuss, and that massivly elaborate creator. Chars having movement and such. And all you get from it is a portrait? Very uninspired in my humble opinion. If you make this sort of thing, do it all the way: Live portraits, that blink, make faces, smile laugh and frown. Give us voices so that when we blow eachother up, we see the face of our victim and hear them scream. That would have made this whole customization alot more interresting, and add a whole new level of depth to eve in general. Heck, we could even add this to rats, giving even trivial NPCs a little life.


Past devblogs have stated that the full-body setup is in preparation for Incarna. So the same character you just took a picture of will be used when walking outside your ship.

Also, moving faces in the chat interface might not be desirable, especially in-space where you seek to keep your FPS count high.

jimosoi
Posted - 2011.01.20 22:21:00 - [711]
 

it took an hour for me to load the character creation after my 4th attempt.
I made the avatar with the very limited choices of hair/clothes/glasses etc and now going to the portrait wont load.
ive turned all setting to minimum, even tho my machine is good and still nothing.
I like character creators, but this doesn't even work.

Skyreth
Revelation of Wrath
Posted - 2011.01.20 22:35:00 - [712]
 

The OP post on this thread has changed. Check out the Character Creator Update link. Re-customisation will be available several times in the future when new options are released, inc new accessories and even tattoos.
So, take a chill pill people, CCP seemed to have actually listened.

Although next time they may want to post (instead of altering the OP) that they have checked the threads =P

Sgt Hans
Brutor Tribe
Posted - 2011.01.20 23:03:00 - [713]
 

How about fixing the jukebox endless scrolling to next track bug?

This has been raised many time since 09, pull your fingers out ccp.

Tropikana
Amarr
The Rough Riders
Ares Protectiva
Posted - 2011.01.20 23:43:00 - [714]
 

Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:45:41
Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:43:38
What I created using the character creator (thats what I originaly had on the login screen)

After having disconected I now look like : this

I had tested a robe with a hood just before but I decided not going with the robe. Switched for a jacket(i didnt put the hood back down)... Seems CCP's server wanted me to have a jacket with a hood :s

Bhattran
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:33:00 - [715]
 

Originally by: Tropikana
Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:45:41
Edited by: Tropikana on 20/01/2011 23:43:38
What I created using the character creator (thats what I originaly had on the login screen)

After having disconected I now look like : this

I had tested a robe with a hood just before but I decided not going with the robe. Switched for a jacket(i didnt put the hood back down)... Seems CCP's server wanted me to have a jacket with a hood :s

I dub it hoodie, if anyone else wants one it costs 1 plex.

Glyken Touchon
Gallente
Independent Alchemists
Posted - 2011.01.21 00:52:00 - [716]
 

somehow, my in-space FPS has increased from ~30max to ~48max (old backup laptop with min settings while waiting for new rig).

Some of the CC colour buttons don't seem to match what is displayed (but that could be this PC..)
fidgetting should stop when a sculpt area is highlighted.
The history bar in the CC got so many positive comments on Sisi- why didn't it make it to TQ?
Eyelids should be a posable option for portraits rather than blinking.
Current clothing options seem deliberately limited to stimulate a demand in incarna- either via MT or player-made. Not necessarily a bad thing, but has disappointed a lot of people.

While the portraits may look different, the faces in them often don't, which is worrying for Incarna. Hopefully tattoos/implants/headgear/more hairstyles will allow facial recognition.

Will the portrait post-incarna adapt to whatever clothes the character last wore?

PI seems good overall- The UI is one hell of an improvement, but I'll give it a couple of weeks to settle in before judging the numbers (fitting/output etc).

Retriever- please tell me this is a bug with the skin/render? the procurer & covetor still look "normal".

Jaric Ivainson
Caldari
Level 5 Industries
Posted - 2011.01.21 01:48:00 - [717]
 

Thoughts...

Character Creator: Other than causing game to crash after saving my new portrait and logging in a new alt...no problems and rather pleased with the outcome except that you don't have a choice of a full-body pose.

Hot-Keys: No idea, didn't use before and probably won't for a while until the bugs are worked out from what I've read here.

PI: Ah...now that is something I have a lot to say about...

I love the fact that the clickfest is gone...amen. While it took some playing around with, I like the way the new ECUs/Drillheads work, especially with the information as to the total output over the program time VERY USEFUL INFORMATION Very Happy

I am also pleased to see that you can't see other players networks...always thought that was a rip off to the guys (and gals) that spent the time training Planetology to the max and all someone else had to do was look to see where they were extracting. (at least I can't see where my other alts new set-ups are) HOWEVER...

With the new ECUs showing you where the best extracting points are AND that it seems HOTSPOTS MOVE AROUND NOWEvil or Very Mad...what is the purpose of having Advanced planetology in the first place. Recalled seeing in the blog notes that resources would move after the patch, not that they would move on a daily basis. THAT makes no sense to me (Unless we're talking a school of fish swimming around in the ocean)...resources don't just get up and migrate 500+ KMs from one day to the next. Evil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad

Since I've always been a single resouce / planet operation, I actually find I'm able to extract and process more than I could before. This is especially noticeable on large planets (Gas) as you are not losing as much PG/CPU on links. Very HappyVery Happy

So overall:

Character Creator: 8/10
Hotkeys: No Opinion
Planetary Interface (mixed): Clickfest 12/10; Ease of use 9/10; the "NEW" Moving Resources: -1/10

Clementine A
Posted - 2011.01.21 02:04:00 - [718]
 

Character creator drawback : my character is constantly moving while I try to morph it !! Given the slow FPS on mac, this is almost impossible to use...

Mistress Frome
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.01.21 02:28:00 - [719]
 

Setting shortcuts that use more than one key is damn near impossible. Would be nice if this was fixed.

Niraad Khaaz
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.01.21 02:58:00 - [720]
 

I kinda like my new look tbh. Options for all those that really need to have thier char look like it did b4 would have been nice though.


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