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Dr Sheepbringer
Halinallen veroparatiisi
Inglorious Carebears
Posted - 2011.01.19 08:40:00 - [451]

I also agree that the creator is...well small. The whole idea was to get some more depth to the character and setting. I can fully understand this and also the new technical things (they being rendered by the hamsters) that help with lag, but....

if the thing was to achieve a more personal and in depth experience of the eve-universe...then why oh why are there SO LITTLE choices!? Long hair...oh, one. model with different shades?! I don't want a top-gun lookalike! I wanted something like the glasses Jeremy Irons wore in die hard 3! Yes, I know you can't make EVERYTHING, but still..if you are going to make a "revolutionary" tech around characters then by all means have choices!

I did get a "ok" avatar, but it was far from what I see myself in Eve. I'm gallente so we don't really have that much tattoos, but for christ sake! Matari are tribal people!!! They HAD tattoos.

On a that the avatar is done...and all the funky 3D choices made...Yay, I got a avatar. That's it? Is that all we get until incarna comes out? No idle character "station rotation"? Is incarna the next place where I will SEE my character?

Posted - 2011.01.19 08:42:00 - [452]

Edited by: Ragnoroc on 19/01/2011 08:52:30
Originally by: Petunia666
all u guys ranting about a little picture, its just pathetic, maybe u wanna check out some other game like wow.

It seems to me that those of us who are *****ing have been around for 7 years and got used to our faces, most in this category have multiple accounts and have been supporting CCP for years with our money.

Strange, but after all this time you do get attached to your toon, it becomes part of you, not being able to recreate the you of 7 years is a real bummer!

(Remaining faceless till they fix this even if it means not being able to login after 'grace period')

Elara Vrossendream
Posted - 2011.01.19 08:47:00 - [453]

Now I'd like to see a big big letter from the CCP Crew with an explanation of this failure.
As you see all customers are really mad and aren't satisfied at all.

Yokai Mitsuhide
Yokai Syndicate
Posted - 2011.01.19 08:49:00 - [454]

Love the more realistic mature characters...but the lack of options makes us all look alike...its kind of disappointing :(

Posted - 2011.01.19 08:51:00 - [455]

Absolutly amazing ! Eve online for ever !

Posted - 2011.01.19 08:51:00 - [456]

Originally by: Captain Jew
how does this damn camera even work, how am I supposed to know that it's on?


Posted - 2011.01.19 08:52:00 - [457]

yes wery dissapointed with the character creator, wan't more hairstyles,clothes,tattoos,piercings/jewelry/implants etc

Posted - 2011.01.19 08:58:00 - [458]

Horizontal autoplot dots are horrible, now the dots are under my chat windows and can't see them. Don't really want to do a total over haul of my personal window positions. Or if I'm using the market then they also get hidden....

Posted - 2011.01.19 09:04:00 - [459]

Originally by: Levaria

ARRRGHH!!!!! I spent almost 2 hours drooling over the 4 different portraits none of which I can now use to swap in and out. The one I created, alas was the least sexiest of the 4 when I hit save. Seriously CCP Whiskey Tango Foxtrot... How about a little warning next time before I hit save telling me that this grin will eternally be in eve.

Yes, i can only agree to this... spending hours to create the new char and 4 portraits and then *click* all is gone.
Now i wish i could go one step back or as said have a little warning BEFORE...

is it possible to get a the "no face status" back?
again i would spend some hours for my char re-creation, but i would be a bit more cautious when i choose "the final version".

Too switch between the portraits - as i thought - will probably remain a wish


Br'ed Pitt
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:12:00 - [460]

Bug: daytrading is bugged

I cannot make remote buy orders, although I have the skill at 5
Being 8 jumps from the station, I get the message that I should be within 50 jumps to make a remote buy order

Pls fix

Posted - 2011.01.19 09:12:00 - [461]

While i sure do find the new creator amazing some major "best in industry" features are definitely missing:

# undo (ctrl+z) !!
# save / resume (at least you should go on from where you left last time)

There's absolutely no way of doing anything incrementally, yet it's so vast with the 2 stages sculpting and shooting;

Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:15:00 - [462]

Well the Character creator is simply stunning visually wise, no issues with the installation either.

My concerns are lack of more customization clothing dept wise and in addition that any Ammar toon I try to make looks like they are in their late 40's no matter how youthful I try to make them. Oh and a little warning before letting us hit save to let us know That this is the portrait that we want to use, I do hope CCP addresses this as many were affected by it.

Cerys Magente
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:21:00 - [463]

Hugely disappointed in the character creator - would rather have no face at all than settle for what the character creator permits.

Can we please have a burqa option so we can shroud our characters rather than have to look at those awful hairstyles, terrible makeup and hideous clothes?

Tylian Sera
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:21:00 - [464]

A popup message would be nice explaining, that if you click on the next button, the selected picture will be your new profile pic.

Posted - 2011.01.19 09:31:00 - [465]

Originally by: Tylian Sera
A popup message would be nice explaining, that if you click on the next button, the selected picture will be your new profile pic.

I'm Amarr so OBVIOUSLY I am unhappy with the character creator.. Looking friggen 50-60 years old and all, I didn't choose Ni Kunni for a reason, you used to be able to make Amarr look younger.

I hope CCP drops an explanation or lets people pay to switch races, I would be Caldari in a heart beat now.

Posted - 2011.01.19 09:33:00 - [466]

Edited by: lushn on 19/01/2011 09:37:37
CCP give up . accept that it doesnt work.

Give up to keep one cerver cluster, seperate servers. Most MMORG doing that.

One server for avatar lovers. Something like imvu They buy clothes, wigs for their characters,

One server for PVP lovers , no need complex game like eve for them. only one fire , one reload button enuf . They bully each other there.

And finaly one server for us, industrials-miners , change PI as smae as before. We mine, build there quietly , in peace.

Or please develop eve offline version SO I can buy as cd/dvd. Bcuz Im sick of these forced interactions, mandatory updates

Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:34:00 - [467]

For those asking for cloth remember that for the moment you are only taking a snapshot of you characters head/face. The need for awesome looking clothes is not yet needed as CCP can add those in later and let you get changed once Incarna hits.

What the Character creator does need is a massive look at the avatar faces and head options. Currently I am sat in empire looking at local and with every image generated I am able to tell the difference in only a few bloodlines. CCP seem like they wanted to hold onto the unique aspect of their bloodlines but didn't focus on developing the things that made them unique.

The Brutors sunglasses have now been unlocked for everyone and this is the only accessory that seems to be implemented at this time. There were some major changes to the basics of the bloodlines which I'm still annoyed with and seem to have upset many others here.

EVE Online has one option at the moment to make it's players stand apart from one another that is our portraits, I would hope that CCP sees all the tears and complaints here and actually takes them on board instead of thinking this update was a massive success. It has potential but you needed to focus more on what was there with the bloodlines and less on what you could change for them. Locked hairstyles and clothes are not a bad thing! the problem was you changed who had what after we made our choices! Would you be happy if you brought a car because it was blue then a year later someone came and resprayed it orange? a strange way of putting it but it's kind of what happened here.

I was one of the few who sat and tested Carbon from it's first release on SISI it started well you were taking our feedback and making lots of great changes and additions most of the features in it now are things that people asked for during development.
Myself and a few other Deteis players testing asked for one thing which was you add black hair back in (it was in until the final test version was released). Others told you that characters moving around and blinking was annoying while you make a character and we needed and on/off option for that.

I hope there are Devs reading this who want to make the haters love again, portraits may have no impact on the game but they are our one way to truly express ourselves in this game. now it seems to have been changed into something many are not happy with.

/me ends rant.

Tylian Sera
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:38:00 - [468]

Originally by: Lego Maniac
This must have been asked already, but as far as Minmatar glasses go, is there anything besides aviators that eat up half your face? They make me feel like I'm about to go play beach volleyball with Tom Cruise in some flaming 80's movie about Navy pilots.

I know, I know, I should work on that security thing. But honestly.

I've Lolled :D, Top Gun FTW

Bright Shadowstar
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:47:00 - [469]

This may be answered BUT it took me 11hrs to finally be able to download this upgrade then I went to bed.
Trying to use the character thingy and all I can see is a set of teeth on a black background! What can I do??

Karos Vandarl
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:51:00 - [470]

I have 2 acc. one toon on each.

my main karos did well from the chacter creator , he looks exactly the way ive alays imagined him, my second chacter is sarok and hes amarrian.....and the chacter creater cant make him look good i tried for nearly 2 hrs and the best i could manage was to turn the lighting down and face him at an angle so you cant see how bad he looks.

also the clothing selection is VERY VERY poor. far too few options. no customisation nand mostof the avalable options are bland and indisinct.

The new PI system now means means my production has droped by about 1/3 making it useless. so ill not be bothering with it anymore.

The yellow reteiver and the orange makky are just plain HIDEOUS....please find out which dev gave his 7 y/o child the colouring crayons and make him look at them for an hour or so until he realises what a terrible mistake he has made.

so to summerise

1) clothing : lame
2) PI : broken
3) mining barges : Ugly

Posted - 2011.01.19 09:57:00 - [471]

Originally by: Karia Sur
very disappointed.

Created 1 character on my first account, remember reading that you could tinker about with it for a grace period, so hit save as wanted to see the rest of the updates ingame. Logged out and back in to find that once you hit save your fecked, your stuck with that portrait for ever (unless you intend lining CCPs wallets even more in the future).


Exactly. And when checking patch notes if I remember it well, there is green sentence ADDED, that we are now stuck with portrait for ever! CCP be so kind and put some "reset" button so we can have at least 3 attempts.

Davina Varan
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:03:00 - [472]

My hair should be very dark brown or black.

Could not choose this color on this character.

Dont they have hair dye in the future ?.

Aramaki Section9
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:10:00 - [473]

To me, new character creator and the engine is awesome. However, considering we can not customize our look untill the incarna (buying clothes, eye wears, in station barbers....I hope) there should have been more clothes, diffrent hair styles and definately more eye wear styles for this expansion. I believe that 1.2 gigs of patch wasnt necessary to just create a portrait, but it makes me to wait incarna impatiently.

CCP give people 3 chance of creating their portrait for a month period, this way you can make most of us happy and satisfied.

Posted - 2011.01.19 10:14:00 - [474]

I am really disappointed too. The number of clothes, hair styles, backgrounds, etc., itís a joke right ? I hope so, like many others, and I really hope that when Incarna comes out we will have option to one more time recreate characters with new stuff and fixed bugs, its not so hard so common, make people paying you satisfied. And also whats the thing with modify market order, why the window is not in focus anymore ? And for gods sake allow some/any market shortcuts and make our playtimes easier. Common CCP!!

Mrs Zor
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:24:00 - [475]

Originally by: Imiarr Timshae
Edited by: Imiarr Timshae on 18/01/2011 18:20:11

Entire Character Creation System looks rushed and generally unpolished

Character Creation :

1. No Black Hair.

Yeah, I dont like not being allowed to choose black hair for Caldari characters.

Also, PI is broken. After dismantling extractors as required by game mechanics, I cant install any Extractor Control Units in their place. Now all of my planets are down and my POS fuel is still burning without replacement fuel. I hope this gets either fixed ASAP or someone explains how to use the new items, because I cant figure it out.

Posted - 2011.01.19 10:32:00 - [476]

Originally by: Hellinsane
And for gods sake allow some/any market shortcuts and make our playtimes easier.

Amen to that!
It's great that they try to improve the UI, but the Market has always been a clickfest with ever changing menus.
I also don't understand why it's not possible to view market details from the modify dialog. It's always those little things...

Greig Hul
Ore Extraction Technologies
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:34:00 - [477]

I do *like* the character a tool its very neat. The quality of the avatars you can make with it are brilliant.

What i *don't* like, is despite a giant thread on the test server feedback forum screaming for more assets, we are left with very little variability and choice.

There needs to be more assets - deployed over the next few weeks via patches. During this time people should get free edits of their characters.

Galactic Defence Initiative
Fade 2 Black
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:35:00 - [478]

Edited by: Polgara on 19/01/2011 10:35:34
Originally by: Never Mri
I had a Planet that, after some tweaking could comfortably extract 4 resources. Those were processed into Processed Materials, and the output processed once more to make a Specialized Commodity... Transcranial Microcontrollers.
I even had a few extra basic industry processors.

But no more. Even with an Elite Command center, I simply can't get a 4th Extractor Control Unit running. I don't have the powergrid to add a single head unit to it. (The other 3 only run 1 head unit, and I've eliminated all extra industry and storage.)

It feels like someone decided that I had it too easy. And that nobody should be allowed to make Specialized Commodities without carrying stuff from planet to planet.

I second this, I cant even process 4 resources into t1 on a planet with a lvl5 CC
I was making Vaccines on this planet befor the change, is ther some way to harvest 2 resources from 1 ECU that i do not know of??

Posted - 2011.01.19 10:41:00 - [479]

Edited by: Kuea on 19/01/2011 10:52:02
Originally by: Jay Wareth
Saw the golden retriever on SiSi... now it's on TQ. I love you CCP. YARRRR!!

It took me a minute to realize what you meant. Golden. Retriever... get it?

Summary of the feelings for this patch:

Effect on flying spaceships (for me):

+ New shortcuts are nice.
- You might get bumped a bit by a WH.
- Those two are the complete list.


+ 14 day programs are nice
- the output loss is very steep
- less functionality; reduction of what you can do on one planet
- Not fun to set up colonies anymore, they've been simplified greatly

Character creator:

+ Looks good
- A whole lot less variety then even what SISI had at one point. Hair color options?!
- Bad UI for finalizing changes - no warning that changes are final.
- No option to go back and redo; combined with the previous item this is a killer.

Customer Relations:

- NEOCOM delayed, but no official announcement of this other than the lack of it in the patch notes.
-- No new contracts UI, despite it actually BEING in the patch notes! No announcement even now.
EDIT: Found a mention of this on the forums:
What happened to contract changes?

- See: Character creator

Vanessa Fong
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:57:00 - [480]

There aren't much clothes to choose from but I love the available makeup and hair dye options for the female characters. Eyeliners, blush and a different hair root color. Love it!

It would be great if there were hair accessories.

Although I'm thinking of filing a petition since my character seems to be too zoomed out of the portrait compared to the snapshots I've taken before saving it. Sad

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