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EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:54:00 - [31]
 

Anything without a role bonus or cov ops cloak shouldnt be able to regen cap. The AFK Cloakers that are ****ting up the thread dont really have any argument beyond "Waaa this isnt fair let us abuse cloaks"

Korg Leaf
Super Batungwaa Ninja Warriors
0ccupational Hazzard
Posted - 2011.01.19 11:35:00 - [32]
 

Wow, im shocked a cloak change that I can agree on that doesnt ruin cov ops cloakers

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.19 12:34:00 - [33]
 

Supportin this.

Also, how about a similar penalty to shield recharge?

Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.19 12:42:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Garst Tyrell
yes please lets punish 'stupidly brave' pilots? Confirming that bravery has no place in EVE, so lets all jump in a blob


You're only 'stupidly brave' if you're carrying out an action with a high risk involved, not just dropping your supercap on unsuspecting jump freighters.

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.19 12:45:00 - [35]
 

Edited by: Marlona Sky on 19/01/2011 12:46:12
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Also, how about a similar penalty to shield recharge?


I was thinking about that but was worried it might not go over so well and the cap penalty not get the support. If there is enough people that think it would be a good addition as well, then I will add it to the OP. After all, you can't armor repair while cloaked so it makes sense. Again people, remember this is for all NON-Covert Ops Cloaks.

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.01.19 13:01:00 - [36]
 

Oh think of the tears potential Twisted Evil
Nice idea to nerf drive by DDing.

Darek Castigatus
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
Posted - 2011.01.19 13:59:00 - [37]
 

I support this with one caveat - that Black Ops and ships that fit covert cloaks are unaffected.


james1122
Posted - 2011.01.19 14:01:00 - [38]
 

Epic idea is epic

(so long as black ops arnt affected by said change)

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.19 14:07:00 - [39]
 

Originally by: james1122
Epic idea is epic

(so long as black ops arnt affected by said change)


I agree, OP updated.

Jaik7
Posted - 2011.01.19 14:23:00 - [40]
 


Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
Posted - 2011.01.19 17:45:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Marlona Sky
Edited by: Marlona Sky on 19/01/2011 12:46:12
Originally by: Scatim Helicon
Also, how about a similar penalty to shield recharge?


I was thinking about that but was worried it might not go over so well and the cap penalty not get the support. If there is enough people that think it would be a good addition as well, then I will add it to the OP. After all, you can't armor repair while cloaked so it makes sense. Again people, remember this is for all NON-Covert Ops Cloaks.


I'd be for that.

Daedalus II
Helios Research
Posted - 2011.01.19 18:10:00 - [42]
 

Agreed!

Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.19 18:49:00 - [43]
 

Originally by: Paskis Robinson
If this was about stopping people cloaking up for hours and hours in any ship at all (other than covops/recon) then I'd actually be all for it. However cloaking to regen cap is not something I'd look to change. I'd probably go with something like "Cloak duration = 15 minutes, can be stopped at any time, but has a 5 min re-cloak timer" to start with - to force 'visible' time onto any cloaked ship.
I believe the entire cloaking mechanic should be re-evaluated after CCP removes local as intelligence tool.

Until that happens, AFK cloaks are necessary to negate some of the power of local chat.

HolyNerfBatman
Posted - 2011.01.20 02:31:00 - [44]
 


Solomon XI
Hidden Souls

Posted - 2011.01.20 06:32:00 - [45]
 

Not a bad idea, to be honest. Helps with the whole AFK cloaking thing and is a pretty fair nerf to non-covert cloaking.

Ephemeron
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.20 06:37:00 - [46]
 

Those that think this idea is for AFK cloaking - reread the OP

it does nothing to stop AFK cloaking. It just stops recharge so caps can't cyno out easily after waiting cloaked.

EdFromHumanResources
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:32:00 - [47]
 

Originally by: Ephemeron
Originally by: Paskis Robinson
If this was about stopping people cloaking up for hours and hours in any ship at all (other than covops/recon) then I'd actually be all for it. However cloaking to regen cap is not something I'd look to change. I'd probably go with something like "Cloak duration = 15 minutes, can be stopped at any time, but has a 5 min re-cloak timer" to start with - to force 'visible' time onto any cloaked ship.
I believe the entire cloaking mechanic should be re-evaluated after CCP removes local as intelligence tool.

Until that happens, AFK cloaks are necessary to negate some of the power of local chat.


Fly away little troll

Double Dee
Caldari
Perkone

Posted - 2011.01.20 12:28:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Double Dee on 20/01/2011 12:55:17
O hey look, a great idea!

Mamba Lev
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.01.20 14:48:00 - [49]
 

Supported.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2011.01.20 15:41:00 - [50]
 

Edited by: TimMc on 20/01/2011 15:41:28
A good idea tbh.

My only concern would be about covert ops ships running out of cap as they move around. A few warps and they are out of cap, forcing them to decloak and recharge.

Not that its a bad thing.

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:31:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: TimMc
My only concern would be about covert ops ships running out of cap as they move around.


:facepalm:

I guess I need to update my OP and use the largest font available to say this has...

NOTHING TO DO WITH COVERT OPS CLOAKS!

Corina Jarr
Posted - 2011.01.20 20:19:00 - [52]
 

Not a bad idea at all.

Zorn Aldridge
Caldari Provisions

Posted - 2011.01.21 03:34:00 - [53]
 

YARR!!!

CarnegieSteel
Posted - 2011.01.21 04:23:00 - [54]
 

While on the topic, why not give black ops a bonus to cap and shield regen while cloaked?

OmgNoFreeNames
Posted - 2011.01.21 04:46:00 - [55]
 

Don't fix what's not broken Razz
not supported, sorry

Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
Posted - 2011.01.21 07:39:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: OmgNoFreeNames
Don't fix what's not broken Razz
not supported, sorry


But it is broken.

Leviathan9
Gallente
Royal Hiigaran Navy
South Pole Dancers
Posted - 2011.01.21 08:27:00 - [57]
 

Sounds like a great idea, adds more risks for dropping caps on people.

Brian Khan
Amarr
StarHunt
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2011.01.21 11:36:00 - [58]
 

This is good idea.

OmgNoFreeNames
Posted - 2011.01.21 12:10:00 - [59]
 

Originally by: Val'Dore
Originally by: OmgNoFreeNames
Don't fix what's not broken Razz
not supported, sorry


But it is broken.

No it's not.
Trying to fix capital issues by braking cloaking devices is something like a rectal surgery on the eye.

fyi capital ships can refit near each other, and they can cap transfer to each other, no cap pilots will be affected by this, xpt a lonely Jackie Chan on a route from Chribba meeting point to his home system.
Did you noticed a lot of cloaking devices in a capital kill mails?

Marc Younbrog
Posted - 2011.01.21 12:12:00 - [60]
 

I do not support your proposal.
You have neglected to explain why NON-Capital ships should also be affected by this change.

If you simply edit your proposal to be exclusive to capital ships, I shall approve. Or, please add an explanation as to why subcap ships should also be affected by this change.


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