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Gibbo5771
Posted - 2011.01.18 12:48:00 - [1]
 

Can I finally have a black character?

I am African American in RL and would like to reflect my self image onto my character, is this possible?

I have been inactive for past 2 months or so, havent tested a thing lol

Wacktopia
Sicarius.
Legion of The Damned.
Posted - 2011.01.18 12:50:00 - [2]
 

You can and always could but only by playing Minmattar > Brutor. :)

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.18 12:51:00 - [3]
 

I don't know how you look like but I think the answer is yes.

Hemp Invader
Inverted Worlds
Posted - 2011.01.18 12:52:00 - [4]
 

You can have black skin if you are playing brutor.

If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist?

Crystal Cornelious
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:00:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Hemp Invader
You can have black skin if you are playing brutor.

If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist?


Bit shortsighted, if not an ignorant and blunt statement.
I'm pretty sure the roles were reversed if one could only create a black character, or only a male character.
Every player should have a chance to create a digital alter-ego, or representation of themselves, and although the OP's post is hardly racist, yours reeks of it with false accusations (or at least an insinuation).

Template 1
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:00:00 - [6]
 

Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black.

Irida Mershkov
Gallente
The Reformed
Chaos Theory Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:01:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
I don't know how you look like but I think the answer is yes.

Race changer required. CCP pls giv

Kirtaama Oinnatsu
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:02:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Template 1
Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black.


The playable minmatar are not the enslaved ones... and it's about lore. Not catering to player wishes. It's the same reason my caldari could not have a decent complexion or darker hair.

Kyo Haku
Minmatar
Gradient
Electus Matari
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:03:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Crystal Cornelious
Originally by: Hemp Invader
You can have black skin if you are playing brutor.

If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist?


Bit shortsighted, if not an ignorant and blunt statement.
I'm pretty sure the roles were reversed if one could only create a black character, or only a male character.
Every player should have a chance to create a digital alter-ego, or representation of themselves, and although the OP's post is hardly racist, yours reeks of it with false accusations (or at least an insinuation).


Someone has a hard time getting sarcasm...

Keta Fraal
Nul and Booleans
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:24:00 - [10]
 

Originally by: Kyo Haku
Originally by: Crystal Cornelious
Originally by: Hemp Invader
You can have black skin if you are playing brutor.

If you're not, you're going to have to settle for white. Don't you like white? Are you some kind of racist?


Bit shortsighted, if not an ignorant and blunt statement.
I'm pretty sure the roles were reversed if one could only create a black character, or only a male character.
Every player should have a chance to create a digital alter-ego, or representation of themselves, and although the OP's post is hardly racist, yours reeks of it with false accusations (or at least an insinuation).


Someone has a hard time getting sarcasm...


Hmmm.. Time for a haiku.

Sarcasm spoken in a fleeting moment.
This feather smells.

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:25:00 - [11]
 

Edited by: Rek Seven on 18/01/2011 13:26:15
Originally by: Kirtaama Oinnatsu
Originally by: Template 1
Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black.


The playable minmatar are not the enslaved ones... and it's about lore. Not catering to player wishes. It's the same reason my caldari could not have a decent complexion or darker hair.


Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race.

Has your issue with the caldari complexion and hair colour been changed with the new character creator?

Gibbo5771
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:36:00 - [12]
 

I just want a black character, I am amarr not minmatar, so I have to be white I guess.

[email protected] the slave thing btw,

Inappropriate text removed as per the forum rules. StevieSG.


Doddy
Excidium.
Executive Outcomes
Posted - 2011.01.18 13:45:00 - [13]
 

Originally by: Rek Seven
Edited by: Rek Seven on 18/01/2011 13:26:15
Originally by: Kirtaama Oinnatsu
Originally by: Template 1
Seems a little unfair that you have to play as a minmatar slave race to be black.


The playable minmatar are not the enslaved ones... and it's about lore. Not catering to player wishes. It's the same reason my caldari could not have a decent complexion or darker hair.


Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race.

Has your issue with the caldari complexion and hair colour been changed with the new character creator?


If all Minmatar were black i would say you have a point, but they aren't. White minmatar and black minmatar are all slaves together after all.

There are obvious fluff reasons why you can't have black caldari etc. They kinda ruined that by introducing an "asian" bloodline to each faction though (what a coincidence!). Trying to break into east asia market beats any fluff concerns ...

Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Spikes Chop Shop
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:08:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Doddy
...
White minmatar and black minmatar are all slaves together after all.
...


WERE slaves. this is a very important distinction. Minmatar are free people by their own hand.

Kveita
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:14:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Rek Seven
Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race.



No, the insult is the claim that some African Americans have to monopoly on slave ancestry. You do not have to go very far back in time to find a predominantly white Europe where the larger part of the population was enslaved one way or another, so please get your head out of your ass, and take your whining and self pity elsewhere.

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:24:00 - [16]
 

Jeebus H. Christ, why canīt you PC fanatics have your own Internet so that you can leave us normal "racists" unmolested with your contrived grievances. Rolling Eyes

Julien Brellier
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:51:00 - [17]
 

Never mind about black or white!!!

The real question is....KAN WE HAZ TAILZ SO WII KAN BE TEH FURRIEZ?Rolling Eyes

Rek Seven
Gallente
Zandathorn Industries
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:51:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Kveita
Originally by: Rek Seven
Obviously the playable Minmatar are not slaves but they are part of a race where a third of the people are enslaved. So the insult remains... If you want to play as a black character, you must choose to be part of a slave race.



No, the insult is the claim that some African Americans have to monopoly on slave ancestry. You do not have to go very far back in time to find a predominantly white Europe where the larger part of the population was enslaved one way or another, so please get your head out of your ass, and take your whining and self pity elsewhere.


Don't be silly little boy. Nobody's head is "up their ass". What, this African American crap? Iím black from the UK, i donít go around calling myself African English, that just sounds ******ed lol

However, i agree with you and i am not oblivious to that fact the black people have not been to only slaves throughout history but it is the most recent example of an entire race being viewed as a lesser people and subsequently being enslaved, which is why this is an issue for me.

If CCP released a chronicle where a character named Mitler when on a campaign to round up and kill all Amarrian because of their religion, would that be acceptable in your world?


Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.01.18 14:54:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Julien Brellier
Never mind about black or white!!!

The real question is....KAN WE HAZ TAILZ SO WII KAN BE TEH FURRIEZ?Rolling Eyes

Furry Megathron best Megathron.

Seul Manus
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:00:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling
I don't know how you look like but I think the answer is yes.


Eeek, its Morpheus. Shocked

Col cast
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:01:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Rek Seven

However, i agree with you and i am not oblivious to that fact the black people have not been to only slaves throughout history but it is the most recent example of an entire race being viewed as a lesser people and subsequently being enslaved, which is why this is an issue for me.


Actually one could argue that the Jews and Slavs are a more recent example with the **** Labour camps. But I'm just being pedantic.

I agree with you.

Kveita
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:02:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Rek Seven


Don't be silly little boy. Nobody's head is "up their ass". What, this African American crap? Iím black from the UK, i donít go around calling myself African English, that just sounds ******ed lol

However, i agree with you and i am not oblivious to that fact the black people have not been to only slaves throughout history but it is the most recent example of an entire race being viewed as a lesser people and subsequently being enslaved, which is why this is an issue for me.




You are wrong, boy. A more recent example is the white-skinned slavic peoples, who were destined by the ****s to be the slaves of the third Reich.

FlameGlow
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:06:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Gibbo5771
Can I finally have a black character?

I am African American in RL and would like to reflect my self image onto my character, is this possible?

I have been inactive for past 2 months or so, havent tested a thing lol

Hahaha, you're from US aren't you? You can't call even yourself blackLaughing

Joghurt Drink
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:08:00 - [24]
 

Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ...

Seul Manus
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:13:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Joghurt Drink
Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ...


Actually black people in the UK never call themselves 'English' they call themselves British, or as I have heard some call themselves black British.

VaL Iscariot
Caldari
The Concilium Enterprises
Spectrum Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:16:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Joghurt Drink
Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ...


ooo politics AND race related subjects! do please, go on. Twisted Evil

Davich MacGregor
Minmatar
Stellar Products and Quality Resources
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:16:00 - [27]
 

This thread is in need of locking. This is a game, not a political forum.

Joghurt Drink
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:17:00 - [28]
 

Originally by: Seul Manus
Originally by: Joghurt Drink
Always found it strange that black people in the US call themselves african american. I mean the whites do not call themselves caucasian american do they? Why insinuate that there are more than one type of american? If your a black person in UK your still an englishmen, if your chinese with a german passport your still a german, same for french etc. I don't get why you are trying to split your country further into subgroups, as if right wing conservatists don't do a good enough job on their own ...


Actually black people in the UK never call themselves 'English' they call themselves British, or as I have heard some call themselves black British.


Ah yes you are probably right, i forgot that quirk. British =! English Embarassed

Nicholas Barker
Deez Nuts.
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:21:00 - [29]
 

Were all minmatar enslaved? Or did some manage to escape it?

Not talking about converting to the Amarrian faith, i mean managing to completely avoid it by hiding, or the amarrians simply not crusading over the whole of minmatar space.

I know a lot of them managed to remain free kind of, but still under amarr law.

bfBigTime
Posted - 2011.01.18 15:22:00 - [30]
 

Because in the future melanin did not make it in the gene pool of all races but the most primitive. Brutor. However, I heard theyve been searching for it in deep frozen space and once they find it you'll be able to fill your character with melanin. Available at the eve store.


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