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Batolemaeus
Caldari
Free-Space-Ranger
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:39:00 - [31]
 

Originally by: Dossie Kielle

Really, I've said it before, P3 and Athalon XP CPUs should be in museums, not inside your PC.
@ ancient CPU users: Does ship spinning lag you out on lowest graphics?


Quote:
cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 6
model : 10
model name : AMD Athlon(tm)
stepping : 0
cpu MHz : 1052.377
cache size : 512 KB
fdiv_bug : no
hlt_bug : no
f00f_bug : no
coma_bug : no
fpu : yes
fpu_exception : yes
cpuid level : 1
wp : yes
flags : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 mmx fxsr sse syscall mmxext 3dnowext 3dnow up
bogomips : 2107.31
clflush size : 32
power management: ts




That rig actually did run a acout alt once upon a time.

Now it is a firewall..

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.01.17 04:44:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Edited by: Iman Jacobi on 17/01/2011 04:36:38
Will a Intel Celeron(P) 325 2.53 GHz run it?

Its for a friend and Ive spent about a half hour lookiung I cant even fint the Celeron P lol

You also have to realize not everyone has their mom buy their PCs for them. Some ppl have to work and save to afford them


http://www.techpowerup.com/cpudb/23/Intel_Celeron_D_325.html
So, yeah... it will work.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.01.17 05:00:00 - [33]
 

God, some of you are so young it's frightening...

Harotak
Malicious Destruction
Posted - 2011.01.17 05:27:00 - [34]
 

DL3TC crew checking in

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.01.17 06:35:00 - [35]
 

Hey Frank, let me dub your PC TOOLS disks.

Captain Fortune
Posted - 2011.01.17 07:23:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Edited by: Iman Jacobi on 17/01/2011 04:36:38
You also have to realize not everyone has their mom buy their PCs for them. Some ppl have to work and save to afford them


Not really true with EVE, you could easily buy something second hand that would cost you double figures.

And hell if you want to splash out well you're only talking about a couple of hundred minimum. I went through 3 complete computer upgrades while I was full time at college, working at a minimum wage part time store job.

Originally by: Borun Tal
God, some of you are so young it's frightening...


I still have my AthlonXP machine here, it's kinda funny to see remarks like 'decades old' when it was fully capable of running Call of Duty 2, Half Life 2, FEAR etc Laughing

Oh and by the way, for a quick and easy system info (Like to see what CPU you have) I like to use Speccy, made by the same guys as CCleaner, Piriform.

Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:10:00 - [37]
 

Do you KNOW how much I paid for this Pentium Pro 200MMX when I bought it???

And now you tell me it's useless?

Iman Jacobi
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:15:00 - [38]
 

Originally by: Captain Fortune
Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Edited by: Iman Jacobi on 17/01/2011 04:36:38
You also have to realize not everyone has their mom buy their PCs for them. Some ppl have to work and save to afford them


Not really true with EVE, you could easily buy something second hand that would cost you double figures.

And hell if you want to splash out well you're only talking about a couple of hundred minimum. I went through 3 complete computer upgrades while I was full time at college, working at a minimum wage part time store job.



He doesnt HAVE a job.
Work market sucks so bad here, Disney isnt even hiring.
So, yeah, no money = no new computer.

Natalia Kovac
Minmatar
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:19:00 - [39]
 

I think CCP is just really screwing over us 286 users for no good reason. Evil or Very Mad

Firkragg
Blood Covenant
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:20:00 - [40]
 

Seriosuly are people really complaining that they cant play a modern game on their 8 year old computer?

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:22:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Originally by: Captain Fortune
Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Edited by: Iman Jacobi on 17/01/2011 04:36:38
You also have to realize not everyone has their mom buy their PCs for them. Some ppl have to work and save to afford them


Not really true with EVE, you could easily buy something second hand that would cost you double figures.

And hell if you want to splash out well you're only talking about a couple of hundred minimum. I went through 3 complete computer upgrades while I was full time at college, working at a minimum wage part time store job.



He doesnt HAVE a job.
Work market sucks so bad here, Disney isnt even hiring.
So, yeah, no money = no new computer.



Oh my god!!!

Skip lunch tomorrow, take the money and go buy a processor made this millennium.

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:34:00 - [42]
 

Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Originally by: Captain Fortune
Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Edited by: Iman Jacobi on 17/01/2011 04:36:38
You also have to realize not everyone has their mom buy their PCs for them. Some ppl have to work and save to afford them


Not really true with EVE, you could easily buy something second hand that would cost you double figures.

And hell if you want to splash out well you're only talking about a couple of hundred minimum. I went through 3 complete computer upgrades while I was full time at college, working at a minimum wage part time store job.



He doesnt HAVE a job.
Work market sucks so bad here, Disney isnt even hiring.
So, yeah, no money = no new computer.



He clearly has some source of income, since he can keep on living and keep on playing games. People with no income live in boxes on the street and they don't own computers or pay for internet access.

The point is that even minimal amounts of money, few months of subscription cost at max, will buy you a working used computer. That kind of money is easily saved from even minor income by stretching your dollar and getting rid of all non-necessary expenses for a while or selling a few things on e-bay or local second hand stores. I've been there and so have others. It only requires little effort/sacrifice. If that is truly outside what someone is capable of or can afford, and not just inconvenient or hard because you are strapped for cash, your inability to play EVE is the least of your problems.

Fr0g'us
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:34:00 - [43]
 

quoting myself.
Originally by: Fr0g'us
Edited by: Fr0g''us on 17/01/2011 08:25:32
i got a pc with a p3 750, 2 gb ram, 7900 gt video card.
i use it mostly to run some websites on it, but it can run 2 clients of eve just fine. low settings of course.
is not my main rig, but was nice to be able to do a team viewer on it, and change skills when i was away, in places with limited internet acces.
so ... /frown.


and for the people with buy a new proc :

if you buy a new proc, you need to change motherboard/memory/video card aswell.

an second hand p4 does not work on 370 socket (i hope i'm not confusing sockets here), so at minimum you need to change the motherboard aswell.

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:37:00 - [44]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 17/01/2011 08:38:45
Originally by: Fr0g'us
quoting myself.
Originally by: Fr0g'us
Edited by: Fr0g''us on 17/01/2011 08:25:32
i got a pc with a p3 750, 2 gb ram, 7900 gt video card.
i use it mostly to run some websites on it, but it can run 2 clients of eve just fine. low settings of course.
is not my main rig, but was nice to be able to do a team viewer on it, and change skills when i was away, in places with limited internet acces.
so ... /frown.


and for the people with buy a new proc :

if you buy a new proc, you need to change motherboard/memory/video card aswell.

an second hand p4 does not work on 370 socket (i hope i'm not confusing sockets here), so at minimum you need to change the motherboard aswell.


So skip 2 lunches...

Teibor
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:54:00 - [45]
 

This wont affect me, but to let anyone who does have 1 of these older chips know only 2 days prior to the update stinks imo.

Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
Posted - 2011.01.17 08:55:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Theodoric Darkwind
That a P3 or Athlon XP would even run EVE is suprising to me


Me too, wonder how many other MMO's would run on such an old processor set?

RaTTuS
BIG
Gentlemen's Agreement
Posted - 2011.01.17 09:15:00 - [47]
 

it will probably be hard enough to find a GFX card that will run on that system

Fr0g'us
Posted - 2011.01.17 09:27:00 - [48]
 

Edited by: Fr0g''us on 17/01/2011 09:27:48
Originally by: Serge Bastana
Originally by: Theodoric Darkwind
That a P3 or Athlon XP would even run EVE is suprising to me


Me too, wonder how many other MMO's would run on such an old processor set?



mmorpg that worked fine on my p3 (i play them when i was bored at work, and had the system near by -> now is in a server room, not all accounts beign mine.)
worked fine means medium/low details, 30+ fps, 1024 res.
of course, a 80+ man raid or 500 people battles was not possible.

wow precataclysm
warhammer
battleforge
tabula rasa
guild wars
city of heroes, villains.
ddo
lineage 2
eve online

not playable :
lotr
aoc

Illwill Bill
Svea Crusaders
Posted - 2011.01.17 09:31:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: Borun Tal
1980 called... it wants it's microprocessors back.
Pff. 68030 > all.

*brofist*

Who needs more than 256 bytes of cache anyway?

Y Berion
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.17 09:46:00 - [50]
 

So, no more EVE on my ZX Spectrum 48K? Booooo

Serge Bastana
Gallente
GWA Corp
Posted - 2011.01.17 09:48:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: Y Berion
So, no more EVE on my ZX Spectrum 48K? Booooo


EVE runs just fine on my Difference Engine.

EnslaverOfMinmatar
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.17 09:49:00 - [52]
 

In ~2 days we'll find out who has those CPUs

Afrid Zaror
Posted - 2011.01.17 10:13:00 - [53]
 

I didn't even know Pentium 3's could run it to begin with. I mean, back in like 2001, I bought a PC for about 399 and if I remember rightly even that came with a Pentium 4 as standard... who the hell is still using P3?

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.01.17 10:20:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: Iman Jacobi
Edited by: Iman Jacobi on 17/01/2011 04:36:38
Will a Intel Celeron(P) 325 2.53 GHz run it?

Its for a friend and Ive spent about a half hour lookiung I cant even fint the Celeron P lol

You also have to realize not everyone has their mom buy their PCs for them. Some ppl have to work and save to afford them


Pretty sure it will, since that's a P4 core.

Lindsay Logan
Posted - 2011.01.17 10:30:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Borun Tal
1980 called... it wants it's microprocessors back.


1990 called, they laugh at your computer history.

Pohbis
Neo T.E.C.H.
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:20:00 - [56]
 

No more EVE on my HTPC and the big screen :(

NiiKleagh
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:22:00 - [57]
 

How about my AMD Dual-core 4600+ 2.4 GHz?

I've killed a LOT of people with it, and I don't play eve for the graphics; they have always been set to the lowest settings, and my Eve screen to the smallest size (to sorta see parts of two-characters' clients on one screen).

mechtech
SRS Industries
SRS.
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:29:00 - [58]
 

Originally by: NiiKleagh
How about my AMD Dual-core 4600+ 2.4 GHz?

I've killed a LOT of people with it, and I don't play eve for the graphics; they have always been set to the lowest settings, and my Eve screen to the smallest size (to sorta see parts of two-characters' clients on one screen).


4600+ is definitely fine.

The CPUs that won't work are old AMD Barton core CPUs (non 64-bit AMD XP pricessors), and Pentium 3s.

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:33:00 - [59]
 

Edited by: Cyaxares II on 17/01/2011 11:36:10
Originally by: Thuul'Khalat
Do you KNOW how much I paid for this Pentium Pro 200MMX when I bought it???

And now you tell me it's useless?

set up a lean Linux system, run Bochs on it, install Windows inside a Bochs VM, run EVE

(the last 2 steps might take a loooooong time on that hardware^^)

edit:

on a serious note: there probably are projects out there that can emulate SSE2 instructions using SSE without having emulate a whole PC - but the sort of hardware that does not support SSE2 would probably not be able to take the performance impact of this emulation either.

Neamus
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:47:00 - [60]
 

Actually I run the EvE client on a piece of A4 and a set of coloured crayons, its fine at the moment. But does this mean that I will have to write SSE2 before I play every time now? Or will I need a new set of crayons?


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