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Hezbe Allah
State War Academy
Posted - 2011.01.18 17:43:00 - [181]
 

Edited by: Hezbe Allah on 18/01/2011 17:46:44
Originally by: Dungee Alstot
You just made my fiancee very angry. She thought I was done with this game finally.


Trolling removed. Please try to be civil to each other. Spitfire

Annoitte
Minmatar
Industrial Salvage and Excavations
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:01:00 - [182]
 

Well, this is nice. I guess I'll be taking a beak, after all. It's not like spending more money on upgrading was on my list of **** to do, right?

Zhula Guixgrixks
Increasing Success by Lowering Expectations
Posted - 2011.01.18 18:09:00 - [183]
 

Originally by: Hawk TT
PhysX DLLs for sure. Just recently they have been updated to use SSE2 ;-)


from ze internet: PhysX SDK 2.8.4: Optimized CPU Cloth Simulation

So the new avatar generator is to blame ??
loss: unhappy customers
gain: able to render a game mechanic irrelevant, small picture of your avatars nose.



Cactusito
Posted - 2011.01.18 19:12:00 - [184]
 

Short sighted the lot of yah......... 3000XP pro chip runs WoW for heavens sake.... but not eve,

I took a break from WOW to come back.. ah well....

/close account. LOG ON WOW.

Rin Ji
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.18 19:30:00 - [185]
 

Chances are, someone else will buy the PLEX you would have bought... Maybe we'll survive that loss.
Have fun with the elves.

Naughty me? Ooops...ugh

Mythio Delphi
Posted - 2011.01.18 19:46:00 - [186]
 

Well my computer is two years old. An Intel Celeron and I can log into the game but the character creator crashes my video. Great improvement. Not sure I am going to like being a silhuette on two accounts.

Ormus Vinge
Posted - 2011.01.18 20:05:00 - [187]
 

Don't you ppl. get it?

It's about the: "Hello Sir, we want to inform you, that the game will no longer work on your computer by TOMORROW"

That's all I am concerned of.


Sure, we can all get some dualcore whatever for 200 bucks... NOT the problem.


thx

Ormus


Dan Spitty
Gallente
Psychotic Disorders
Dangerous By Design
Posted - 2011.01.18 20:07:00 - [188]
 

I knew some bastard would force me to upgrade my steam-powered machine, didn't think it would be CCP...

Going to have to borrow a friends to swap skills until I'm upgraded :)

*sits by the fire with a pipe*

Dave Day
Amarr
Universal Freelance
CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
Posted - 2011.01.18 20:12:00 - [189]
 

Originally by: Ormus Vinge
Don't you ppl. get it?

It's about the: "Hello Sir, we want to inform you, that the game will no longer work on your computer by TOMORROW"


Well said. My PC was bought 2 days ago and i'm pretty sure it'll take whatever is thrown at it, so it doesn't affect me. But to the people on here who are having so much fun knocking those with older machines, Ormus is quite right. it's not so much the fact that Eve won't run on their machines anymore, it's the 12 hour notice period. Come on folks, show some understanding eh? **** might happen to you one day too.

Dan Spitty
Gallente
Psychotic Disorders
Dangerous By Design
Posted - 2011.01.18 20:20:00 - [190]
 

Originally by: Dave Day
it's not so much the fact that Eve won't run on their machines anymore, it's the 12 hour notice period. Come on folks, show some understanding eh? **** might happen to you one day too.


12 Hours it a bit rough, been busy with work and found out 90mins ago !! :)

To be honest, I'd play this damn game in wire-frame mode if that was the only option going for my system :)

Diaishi Akye
Posted - 2011.01.18 20:43:00 - [191]
 

'Come hither, Little One,' said the Crocodile. 'Why do you ask such things?'

Originally by: Tenn soki
some guy in local the other day was complaining how he had a semperion 3000+ and couldn't afford 100$ to buy a used P4 offa ebay, and that he had a 1 month old kid and a wife to look after... all i could think was... how the hell do you even have time to play eve?

real life is way more important than a videogame, so if you can't afford 100$ to upgrade your machine, there's a good reason for it.

Rixon01
Posted - 2011.01.18 22:20:00 - [192]
 

This is more than unreasonable, I'm in a mechanical engineering degree, running a over clocked Athalon XP 3200 and a HD 3870. I'm easily able to afford the monthly fee of eve, but FORCING a customer like me who is about to spend +100 CND on just subscriptions to be unable to run something they look forward to and enjoy? I don't have the time to work and build a new computer, nor the money.

CCP, I am EXTREMELY disappointed.

Amy Elteam
Posted - 2011.01.18 22:29:00 - [193]
 

Originally by: Zhula Guixgrixks
Originally by: Hawk TT
PhysX DLLs for sure. Just recently they have been updated to use SSE2 ;-)


from ze internet: PhysX SDK 2.8.4: Optimized CPU Cloth Simulation

So the new avatar generator is to blame ??
loss: unhappy customers
gain: able to render a game mechanic irrelevant, small picture of your avatars nose.



Perhaps the reason that CCP have been so quiet on the exact cause is because of the amount of rage that this would cause. CCP keep telling us that Incarna will be optional and won't directly affect players who don't want to participate, well I'd say that dropping support for hundreds of players because they won't be able to simulate hair correctly is a direct effect. Even moreso when you consider that the 'hair physics' is only used during avatar generation, and even then it's optional.

Of course, I'd love for CCP devs to come forward and prove me wrong - I love hearing the juicy technical details of things breaking.

Knalldari Testpilot
Posted - 2011.01.19 00:09:00 - [194]
 

Originally by: Chribba
Now that was a short heads up... Sad

this!

Zachstar
Posted - 2011.01.19 00:11:00 - [195]
 

Again will you people PLEASE stop acting like idiots.

CCP again had NO INTENTIONS of forcing SSE2 use (Especially in only 2 days THINK idiots!)

Nvidia decided all the sudden to go SSE2 which had been a request of many devs from many studios alot bigger than CCP for a WHILE now. Yes it is for the cloth simulation but had CCP known and the issue big enough I am almost 100 percent sure in my opinion that CCP would do something to have helped such as a way to play without using the creator for some time. However 96 percent of other folks HAVE cores that can run eve and it would not be fair in the slightest to have delayed because YOU refused to upgrade.

If CCP has offered a way to help I say follow their instructions in my opinion. Perhaps they can give you a free month or two once you return or maybe implement a way to run without the creator for now. I don;t know but it doesn't help when you come up here spreading lies about CCP.

Rixon01
Posted - 2011.01.19 00:46:00 - [196]
 

Originally by: Zachstar
Again will you people PLEASE stop acting like idiots.

CCP again had NO INTENTIONS of forcing SSE2 use (Especially in only 2 days THINK idiots!)

Nvidia decided all the sudden to go SSE2 which had been a request of many devs from many studios alot bigger than CCP for a WHILE now. Yes it is for the cloth simulation but had CCP known and the issue big enough I am almost 100 percent sure in my opinion that CCP would do something to have helped such as a way to play without using the creator for some time. However 96 percent of other folks HAVE cores that can run eve and it would not be fair in the slightest to have delayed because YOU refused to upgrade.

If CCP has offered a way to help I say follow their instructions in my opinion. Perhaps they can give you a free month or two once you return or maybe implement a way to run without the creator for now. I don;t know but it doesn't help when you come up here spreading lies about CCP.

I see what your proving, but you don't have to call us idiots, and refuse to upgrade our hardware. You can see my reasons, and other peoples reasons. It's not who decided to make cloth simulation a standard for most cpu computing, but it's how ccp just broadsided customers like me and others and implemented it without mentioning in a blog that there will be an option for PAYING customers to not use the character creator, it isn't that large of a aspect to loose a estimated .3% of their player base off.

Dungee Alstot
Autistic Sharks
Test Alliance Please Ignore
Posted - 2011.01.19 01:02:00 - [197]
 

Originally by: Hezbe Allah
Edited by: Hezbe Allah on 18/01/2011 17:46:44
Originally by: Dungee Alstot
You just made my fiancee very angry. She thought I was done with this game finally.


This game is for adults, little children shouldn't be playing this game. Speaking of age, are you old enough to get married, considering you still need to be told what to do.


Here we see the HurpusDurpus in it's natural environment. It is a bizarre creature prone to random fits of unexplainable rage followed by either uttering incomprehensible sounds which would appear to be it's language, or as in this case, creating crude squiggles in an attempt to assert it's perceived dominance

Zeg Quul
Posted - 2011.01.19 01:17:00 - [198]
 

Although I REALLY love the new editor, the way how it was handled (surprise surprise!) is wrong. Just give the non-sse2 folks their old avatar images. While waiting for real Incarna, all can upgrade without rush.

Again,nice work with the editor!

Pasteur
Posted - 2011.01.19 01:20:00 - [199]
 

I am one caught in this mess with an AMD XP. I don't think that most of the high tech sarcastic comments are funny nor are they appropriate. Surprising as it might seem, some of us just play the game instead of spending all of our time reading forums. For lo these many years that I have played, I have never responded to a forum message. But this caught me totally off guard. I think that it was very poorly done and that there should have been time, as one writer responded, for those of us "old guys" with the "vintage gear" to have the delivery people get a solution to our doorsteps! This is very bad business practice. And I for one am betting it is way more than .3% or whatever that estimate was. If there was ever a log on message to this effect, I will have to humbly bow and apologize, but I am quite certain that there never was any such thing. I am angry and sickened to be treated in such a tacky manner.

Nationalizator
Space Shadows
Posted - 2011.01.19 01:47:00 - [200]
 

New CPU is: new motherboard, new memory, new video. Need replace the all hardware fully.
The general problem is not hardware and not price, not even the time spent on the selection and assembly of new computer configuration. The general problem for me is installation the all my software to the new computer. This applies to all new licensions for the software, new operation system, new download and new installation client eve-online, migration the all my files and my eve options in the new computer and more other. I can't do it for two days, even for a week I would be hard to do if there is free time.
I've been playing for five years in the eve-online. Maybe it's a really long time and now I present a good reason to take a break from playing all of my accounts because I got an kick from CCP on my ass. ugh
All the same, I expect a change of system requirements are not earlier than the exit nearest incarna summer.

p.s. excuse me for my english

Zachstar
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:18:00 - [201]
 

Edited by: Zachstar on 19/01/2011 02:18:01
Originally by: Pasteur
I am one caught in this mess with an AMD XP. I don't think that most of the high tech sarcastic comments are funny nor are they appropriate. Surprising as it might seem, some of us just play the game instead of spending all of our time reading forums. For lo these many years that I have played, I have never responded to a forum message. But this caught me totally off guard. I think that it was very poorly done and that there should have been time, as one writer responded, for those of us "old guys" with the "vintage gear" to have the delivery people get a solution to our doorsteps! This is very bad business practice. And I for one am betting it is way more than .3% or whatever that estimate was. If there was ever a log on message to this effect, I will have to humbly bow and apologize, but I am quite certain that there never was any such thing. I am angry and sickened to be treated in such a tacky manner.


Um I found out via news in EVE it was there and there was notice.

Zachstar
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:21:00 - [202]
 

Originally by: Rixon01
Originally by: Zachstar
Again will you people PLEASE stop acting like idiots.

CCP again had NO INTENTIONS of forcing SSE2 use (Especially in only 2 days THINK idiots!)

Nvidia decided all the sudden to go SSE2 which had been a request of many devs from many studios alot bigger than CCP for a WHILE now. Yes it is for the cloth simulation but had CCP known and the issue big enough I am almost 100 percent sure in my opinion that CCP would do something to have helped such as a way to play without using the creator for some time. However 96 percent of other folks HAVE cores that can run eve and it would not be fair in the slightest to have delayed because YOU refused to upgrade.

If CCP has offered a way to help I say follow their instructions in my opinion. Perhaps they can give you a free month or two once you return or maybe implement a way to run without the creator for now. I don;t know but it doesn't help when you come up here spreading lies about CCP.

I see what your proving, but you don't have to call us idiots, and refuse to upgrade our hardware. You can see my reasons, and other peoples reasons. It's not who decided to make cloth simulation a standard for most cpu computing, but it's how ccp just broadsided customers like me and others and implemented it without mentioning in a blog that there will be an option for PAYING customers to not use the character creator, it isn't that large of a aspect to loose a estimated .3% of their player base off.


They had TWO days TWO days TWO days! You cant do JACK in that time especially something as big as keeping the engine disabled until someone goes into the editor that takes a huge effort due to how physics are implemented into the game these days.

If you will be patient they have not written you off indications are they are trying to get something together to help those effected in my opinion. However that is likely to only mean game time in the end. You STILL have to upgrade.

Zachstar
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:23:00 - [203]
 

Edited by: Zachstar on 19/01/2011 02:23:59
Originally by: Nationalizator
New CPU is: new motherboard, new memory, new video. Need replace the all hardware fully.
The general problem is not hardware and not price, not even the time spent on the selection and assembly of new computer configuration. The general problem for me is installation the all my software to the new computer. This applies to all new licensions for the software, new operation system, new download and new installation client eve-online, migration the all my files and my eve options in the new computer and more other. I can't do it for two days, even for a week I would be hard to do if there is free time.
I've been playing for five years in the eve-online. Maybe it's a really long time and now I present a good reason to take a break from playing all of my accounts because I got an kick from CCP on my ass. ugh
All the same, I expect a change of system requirements are not earlier than the exit nearest incarna summer.

p.s. excuse me for my english



I call BS on (All your accounts) That is a classic whine and nobody believes it so stop using it.

And CCP diddnt kick your ass. It was Nvidia that blindsided you and CCP but moreso your lack of computer and industry knowledge kicked your own ass.

Alina Emily
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:03:00 - [204]
 

Now what are my 36 sweatshop children suppose to do all day?

This makes me so ronery!

Eulysees Chelt
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:32:00 - [205]
 

Originally by: Tres Farmer
I wonder how vocal on the forums those 0.3% will be Laughing


VERY !! I happen to run one of those "Ancient Machines" and as such have now been forced to stop playing because I get a "Your CPU will not support this game" message...A lot of us cannot afford a new pc....I am a fee paying customer and have lodged two petitions (externally)...I am a proper P1553d of bunny....it is bang out oforder to spring this crap on ppl when they are the ones that afford your new pc's in order that you develope games that are accessable to said ppl....ffs sort this out pls Evil or Very MadExclamation

Eulysees Chelt
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:51:00 - [206]
 

Originally by: Zachstar
Originally by: Rixon01
Originally by: Zachstar
Again will you people PLEASE stop acting like idiots.

CCP again had NO INTENTIONS of forcing SSE2 use (Especially in only 2 days THINK idiots!)

Nvidia decided all the sudden to go SSE2 which had been a request of many devs from many studios alot bigger than CCP for a WHILE now. Yes it is for the cloth simulation but had CCP known and the issue big enough I am almost 100 percent sure in my opinion that CCP would do something to have helped such as a way to play without using the creator for some time. However 96 percent of other folks HAVE cores that can run eve and it would not be fair in the slightest to have delayed because YOU refused to upgrade.

If CCP has offered a way to help I say follow their instructions in my opinion. Perhaps they can give you a free month or two once you return or maybe implement a way to run without the creator for now. I don;t know but it doesn't help when you come up here spreading lies about CCP.

I see what your proving, but you don't have to call us idiots, and refuse to upgrade our hardware. You can see my reasons, and other peoples reasons. It's not who decided to make cloth simulation a standard for most cpu computing, but it's how ccp just broadsided customers like me and others and implemented it without mentioning in a blog that there will be an option for PAYING customers to not use the character creator, it isn't that large of a aspect to loose a estimated .3% of their player base off.


They had TWO days TWO days TWO days! You cant do JACK in that time especially something as big as keeping the engine disabled until someone goes into the editor that takes a huge effort due to how physics are implemented into the game these days.

If you will be patient they have not written you off indications are they are trying to get something together to help those effected in my opinion. However that is likely to only mean game time in the end. You STILL have to upgrade.


With this sort of CCP defence I'm surprised that there isn't a CCP before your name and just how is it that you are privvy to what is in the minds of the devs ?

Mr MILFHunter
Posted - 2011.01.19 06:02:00 - [207]
 

Originally by: Hezbe Allah
Edited by: Hezbe Allah on 18/01/2011 17:46:44
Originally by: Dungee Alstot
You just made my fiancee very angry. She thought I was done with this game finally.


Trolling removed. Please try to be civil to each other. Spitfire


maybe we'll just sick the paedo police on your ass and have them have a real good long hard lok at your hd....see how clever you are then

Malla Nkomi
GoonWaffe
Posted - 2011.01.19 06:30:00 - [208]
 

Originally by: Ormus Vinge
Edited by: Ormus Vinge on 18/01/2011 15:27:56
"We urge everyone who encounters this specific error to submit a petition to our customer support department. We will have updates on the next steps we take with this issue immediately after the weekend but we wanted to get a blog up ASAP to inform everyone about the issue."


Don't forget to peti, if you have Problems.



and the reply you will get is

"If you wish I can move this petition to the billing category for you, so you may discuss a refund?"

rittersporn2
Coreward Technologies
Posted - 2011.01.19 07:18:00 - [209]
 

Here goes my AthlonXP-2100+/1,5GB-RAM/Geforce-6800...

It served me well since May 2011.

And yes, it ran EVE flawless.

Intergalactic Ethan
Posted - 2011.01.19 07:19:00 - [210]
 

if we're supposed to petition that we're affected by this problem, but can't get into the game to issue the petition, how do you expect to hear from us?

I've been running the game successfully for 1.5 years, 2 accounts, 2 computers... both affected by this change lol.

checking craigslist for cheap hand-me-downs that will work.... are my computers REALLY worth less than $15? geez.


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