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Aguilarr Cokey
Posted - 2011.01.15 19:26:00 - [1]
 

What do you think about this? Can it beat a rifter in a 1v1? I only put in what i could fit, but please feel free to suggest any changes so i may train for them.

[Punisher, Anti-Frigate]

Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
High Slot

Patterned Stasis Web I
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I

Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
'Bastion' 400mm Reinforced Steel Plates I

Rig Slot
Rig Slot
Rig Slot



Captain Die
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2011.01.15 19:47:00 - [2]
 

Edited by: Captain Die on 15/01/2011 19:50:28
Originally by: Aguilarr Cokey
What do you think about this? Can it beat a rifter in a 1v1? I only put in what i could fit, but please feel free to suggest any changes so i may train for them.

[Punisher, Anti-Frigate]

Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
High Slot

Patterned Stasis Web I
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I

Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
'Bastion' 400mm Reinforced Steel Plates I

Rig Slot
Rig Slot
Rig Slot





Without double checking module prices, that seems a bit expensive.

Imagine the Punisher as a Rifter with more tank and less mobility.

[Punisher, plate/sar/ac]
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Small Armor Repairer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

Rigs to taste. You could also swap out the neut for a nos to help with your own cap stability.

1600 RT
Posted - 2011.01.15 20:10:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Aguilarr Cokey
What do you think about this? Can it beat a rifter in a 1v1? I only put in what i could fit, but please feel free to suggest any changes so i may train for them.

[Punisher, Anti-Frigate]

Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
Gatling Pulse Laser II, Multifrequency S
High Slot

Patterned Stasis Web I
Fleeting Progressive Warp Scrambler I

Tracking Enhancer II
Damage Control II
Adaptive Nano Plating II
'Bastion' 400mm Reinforced Steel Plates I

Rig Slot
Rig Slot
Rig Slot





the 400mm bastion plate is a storyline item = rare = expensive

Omara Otawan
Posted - 2011.01.15 20:51:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Captain Die
...


AC punisher isnt really a good idea, you simply lack range control to make the most out of the guns.

Especially when fitting mwd.

Niho Benj
Republic Military School
Posted - 2011.01.15 20:57:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Niho Benj on 15/01/2011 20:56:49
i use something like this to pwn the usual losers with their can flipping rifters in trade hubs.

3x 150mm ac w/ barrage
web/2 pt
400mm plate, rep, corpii anp and a dcu
trimarks
best used with a slave clone ofc

Captain Nares
Posted - 2011.01.15 21:13:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Aguilarr Cokey
What do you think about this? Can it beat a rifter in a 1v1? I only put in what i could fit, but please feel free to suggest any changes so i may train for them.


1) Punisher catch small stuff hardly coz of 2 meds. If you want an universal frig - take Rifter or Merlin.

2) Rifter has no chance to kill properly fitted Punisher, but Rifter always can GTFO coz of 3 meds and speed.


[Punisher, AB]
Damage Control II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Centii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
[empty high slot]

Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

11.2k eHP, 36/88 active rep, 98 dps, 1 km/s in perfect.

Templar Dane
Amarr
Amarrian Retribution
Posted - 2011.01.16 00:20:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Captain Nares

2) Rifter has no chance to kill properly fitted Punisher, but Rifter always can GTFO coz of 3 meds and speed.



False. A rifter has a very good chance against a punisher, IF it fits a web or TD. Hell, I was soloed once by a rifter when I was in a pulse coercer. It was my first encounter with a TD rifter...


Lenartowicz
FireStar Inc
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2011.01.16 07:27:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Captain Nares
Originally by: Aguilarr Cokey
What do you think about this? Can it beat a rifter in a 1v1? I only put in what i could fit, but please feel free to suggest any changes so i may train for them.


1) Punisher catch small stuff hardly coz of 2 meds. If you want an universal frig - take Rifter or Merlin.

2) Rifter has no chance to kill properly fitted Punisher, but Rifter always can GTFO coz of 3 meds and speed.


[Punisher, AB]
Damage Control II
400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Centii C-Type Small Armor Repairer
Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane II

1MN Afterburner II
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
150mm Light AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
[empty high slot]

Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

11.2k eHP, 36/88 active rep, 98 dps, 1 km/s in perfect.


with what implants mate?

Captain Nares
Posted - 2011.01.16 13:40:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Lenartowicz

11.2k eHP, 36/88 active rep, 98 dps, 1 km/s in perfect.


with what implants mate?


3%

Dorian Tormak
M0N0LITH
Posted - 2011.01.16 14:27:00 - [10]
 

There are two ways to fit a punisher well:

Lasers, buffer tank, neut. Or lasers, active tank, nos. AC on a punisher is a joke, with lasers you can switch your ammo in a split second when things dont go as planned and they have a very versatile range with scorch.

fLitSer
NEOPHYTE.
EXTERMINATUM
Posted - 2011.01.16 15:15:00 - [11]
 




Without double checking module prices, that seems a bit expensive.

Imagine the Punisher as a Rifter with more tank and less mobility.

[Punisher, plate/sar/ac]
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Small Armor Repairer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Adaptive Nano Plating II

Catalyzed Cold-Gas I Arcjet Thrusters
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I

200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S
5W Infectious Power System Malfunction

Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

Rigs to taste. You could also swap out the neut for a nos to help with your own cap stability.


Love that setup well very similar to what i use...



ARES 003
Posted - 2011.01.16 17:19:00 - [12]
 

I think it works better the way dorian tells it.

Anubis Xian
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.01.16 17:40:00 - [13]
 

If you want your damage to go up in smoke, go with ACs. Punisher already has enough challenges doing damage without gimping yourself by fitting ACs. My advice:

Nano/gank pulse fit and scare the hell out of the Rifter when you play his game better than he does.

Lenartowicz
FireStar Inc
Majesta Empire
Posted - 2011.01.16 19:28:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Captain Nares
Originally by: Lenartowicz

11.2k eHP, 36/88 active rep, 98 dps, 1 km/s in perfect.


with what implants mate?


3%


no im just saying that eft doesn't give me those numbers, with 5's and no implants. dps, tank and speed.. so what gives?


 

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