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Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.01.14 14:38:00 - [31]
 

The minnie female on the page linked in the OP has a tattoo. Are tattoos a feature of this "expansion"?

Djeedjee Beckhally
Posted - 2011.01.14 14:39:00 - [32]
 

When is the next very anticipated expansion - Guristas Excursions coming ?

Evanga
Amarr
Trust Doesn't Rust
Posted - 2011.01.14 14:40:00 - [33]
 

Edited by: Evanga on 14/01/2011 14:40:26
BIG t i t t i e s here i come :D

Estimated Prophet
Ye Olde Curiosity Shoppe and Trading Company
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.01.14 14:42:00 - [34]
 

Originally by: Turay
Some questions:

  • Are we forced to create a new avatar or can we do it later?

  • Are we allowed to change bloodline in order to change char view from asian style to for example european style?

  • Are chars like me with only one name are forced to add a second name?




* You'll have about a month to create your new avatar

* You won't be able to change bloodline

* Your name won't change

Karia Sur
Posted - 2011.01.14 14:53:00 - [35]
 

the timer on the features page is wrong.

Illadelph Justice
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
Posted - 2011.01.14 15:04:00 - [36]
 

does the character creator work the way its supposed to yet?

zandayus
Posted - 2011.01.14 15:08:00 - [37]
 

content are they who expect nothing. for they shall not be disappionted.and that is me.for every titanic of technology there is an iceberg.

SellOrder Forum
Posted - 2011.01.14 15:10:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: SellOrder Forum on 14/01/2011 15:22:42
Originally by: PryMary
OMFG Does everybody just moan that plays this game? EVERY time something chagnes all you lot do is moan FFS people give CCP credit for once! It's not like you could do any better!!


Yes. And some people moan about people moaning can you believe it.

Feed back or criticisms weather it is of the constructive or EmoRage variety is still feedback/ criticism, without it CCP would not have been able to keep this game going as long as they have. Every change will result in some player liking it and some players hating it and its through this mechanism CCP are able to strike a balance and for the most part keep everyone content just look at the active user/ subscription base, it has a slight upward trend.

On topic Good work CCP and I like the hidden patch notes it make patch day speculation more interesting no longer is it spelt out in black and white to the masses where to invest their isk's leave much better opportunities to those that research and think.

Gailion Jut
Caldari
Carbon Credit Hogs
Posted - 2011.01.14 15:24:00 - [39]
 

"Full patch notes of Incursion 1.1 will be published during this downtime."
sounds too much like:
"We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."
I hope the changes to planetary Interaction is in it. My mouse's right click button it getting worn out.

Panhead4411
Posted - 2011.01.14 15:42:00 - [40]
 

Originally by: Gailion Jut
"Full patch notes of Incursion 1.1 will be published during this downtime."
sounds too much like:
"We have to pass the bill so you can find out what's in it."
I hope the changes to planetary Interaction is in it. My mouse's right click button it getting worn out.


You haven't been paying attention have you?

Planet stuffs wll take just as many, if not more clicks, if you want to keep optimal extraction. It will also take more time as well. Now, if you don't give a care about your dwindling extraction rates, then it wil be much quicker.

On that note, i heard in one of the dev vids something that sounded like the planetary deposits will slowly deplete? is this correct, and if so, is there any plan to "re-seed" the empty planets later?

Turay
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.14 15:48:00 - [41]
 

Originally by: Estimated Prophet
Originally by: Turay
Some questions:
  • You won't be able to change bloodline




I hope this is your opinion and not offical. I would be very angry Evil or Very Mad if I would be forced to create an asian style avatar. Nothing against people from asia but this char is not designed to be a asian like char. I bet there are many other players who will agree to my point of view.

Joss56
Gallente
Unleashed' Fury
Posted - 2011.01.14 15:56:00 - [42]
 

Edited by: Joss56 on 14/01/2011 15:59:56
When the patch be there he'll be there and then you can allways flame/troll and all the usual blah blah, until then stop spec about what would your granma do if she was your granpa.

Let them do their job, and if the patch fails somewhere so what?
I'm pretty sure you will not gonna see any sancha wake you up in the night to kick your ass while you are out of your pod scratching your wifes/husbands back Laughing

Common people, all i'm waiting is for fix of rails and walleships, all the rest i don't realy care, it will be there when it will be.
It will not change the fact that i spent 6months traing hybrids/gall just to figure that i have to spend 6more months training another race to expect to have some fun.

This is what is worring me, the rest, bah let them rool.

(sry for my english always so poor Laughing )

Kai Lomu
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:14:00 - [43]
 

Arnar Hrafn Gylfason, senior producer of EVE Online, said this in late 2010:

The internet is flowing with portraits and video footage of the new characters and the feedback we've been getting is overwhelmingly positive at this point, even though only about 50 percent of the functionality has been made available in this initial test server release (my italics)

This I think bodes really well for the patch next week Very Happy

Full article can be read here for anyone who is interested:

Full article

Transfer point
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:15:00 - [44]
 

This was mentioned on the feature page

Quote:
Upgradable Command Centers will allow players to increase and decrease the CPU/Power capabilities of their colony without having to tear it all down (existing undeployed command centers will be migrated to the new system).


What about CC's that are already deployed ? I've been looking around and can't seem to find any mention of whether they'll be migrated to the new system or just wiped from the planet. It would be nice to know ahead of time.

Nijaza
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:26:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Transfer point
This was mentioned on the feature page

Quote:
Upgradable Command Centers will allow players to increase and decrease the CPU/Power capabilities of their colony without having to tear it all down (existing undeployed command centers will be migrated to the new system).


What about CC's that are already deployed ? I've been looking around and can't seem to find any mention of whether they'll be migrated to the new system or just wiped from the planet. It would be nice to know ahead of time.


i also am concerned about this...

drinking12many
Minmatar
Nine Inch Ninja Corp
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:28:00 - [46]
 

Originally by: Evanga
Edited by: Evanga on 14/01/2011 14:40:26
BIG t i t t i e s here i come :D



Every Female character in eve might as well start defaulted to the largest balloons possible Cool

Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:33:00 - [47]
 

Genuinely looking forward to this patch, thanks CCP =)

Djakku
Pod Liberation Authority
HYDRA RELOADED
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:38:00 - [48]
 

BUT PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!!!!! DJAKKU NEEDS HIS BLUE OVERALLS!!!!!! Sad

Cyaxares II
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:39:00 - [49]
 

Edited by: Cyaxares II on 14/01/2011 16:54:17
Originally by: Saana Nara
Originally by: Jimnoo


I disagree. If you pull a change at the last minute how can you test the impact of the removal? Software testing is very hard. The standard approach is to freeze code quite a while before release, to allow through testing.


Oh yeah, software testing is a complicated process. I should probably have been a bit clearer. If CCP are doing some final testing on Monday and find a problem with something they can remove or change that one part of the update, rebuild the update and test it again. If that is still going to be a problem it could well be a late night Monday :P

I imagine there has been a lockdown on code but testing will still continue and there is still quite a lot of time to make any last minute fixes. I'm not saying that they're still starting new art assets for the Character creator or anything :P

the opposite view of that would be "better have well-documented bugs than rushed fixes"

say you find a non-critical (but annoying), non-exploitable bug shortly after the "official" code freeze - what do you do?
rush to write a fix and get it into the tree by blackmailing/bribing QA? or take the time to investigate the bug thoroughly, look for possible workarounds/mitigations and write a detailed advisory for your clients so they know how to deal with the bug until you had time to write a patch and put it through the usual testing protocols?

In most cases the first approach will probably work ok-ish - but if you are unlucky the stripped down QA process will find some issues that forces you to decide whether to fix the bugfix and delay release (by a few hours) or rip it out again (which might render your last round of tests invalid if you had been testing more than one bugfix in a single step) and if you are extremely unlucky your clients will run into weird corner-cases of the bugfix after release that could only have been caught in a "full" QA process (say because your bugfix interacts in some weird way with a completely different part of the software causing it to fail and nobody was aware of that link between the two modules).

but as CCP doesn't run a public bug tracker with detailed information & workarounds that's a moot point Neutral

also: it's just a game and you didn't want that boot.ini anyways

MisterAl tt1
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:43:00 - [50]
 

No word is said about adding Neutro to Sleepers. (refer to this topic: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1415820)

Is it going to be implemented or not? I think you must understand, that lack of information regarding the point may cause pilots to lose multibilion ships right after the update, just because they were not informed they will no longer be able to tank what they used to tank.

Thus I think you really need to provide some information regarding this matter.

Perkar
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:45:00 - [51]
 

Originally by: PryMary
OMFG Does everybody just moan that plays this game? EVERY time something chagnes all you lot do is moan FFS people give CCP credit for once! It's not like you could do any better!!


^^ this

Largo Coronet
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:45:00 - [52]
 

Originally by: drinking12many
Originally by: Evanga
Edited by: Evanga on 14/01/2011 14:40:26
BIG t i t t i e s here i come :D


Every Female character in eve might as well start defaulted to the largest balloons possible Cool
It's unfair, I tell you. The guys should be able to give themselves bodacious ta-tas, too.

"In space, there are no transvestites." Shocked

El'essar Viocragh
Minmatar
Meltdown Luftfahrttechnik
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:46:00 - [53]
 

The real masterplan is the fact that during downtime, the patchnotes page is not available; therefor no patchnotes need to be provided at all and everything can be considered a feature.

Apart from that, I have to agree with a lot of other players here.

Removing parts of a software is not as straight forward as one might like to think. If there are two features A and B, A working and B not working, the removal of only B does not mean that A is still working correctly, since the failed execution of B might have masked a subtle race condition in A that could not be noticed while B was still in place.

Bladacticus
SOL Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:51:00 - [54]
 

Originally by: achoura
How soon after patching can we expect to find the patch/client .torrent on eve files? Is ccp at last going to seed proper torrents or are they going to continue trying to quietly install bit torrent dna on peoples computers without telling them.

Lack of torrents has made eve patching a pain for years, despite repeated complaints :(



It's been a pain? EVE patching has been the easiest of any games I've played!

Bladacticus
SOL Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:56:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: PryMary
OMFG Does everybody just moan that plays this game? EVERY time something chagnes all you lot do is moan FFS people give CCP credit for once! It's not like you could do any better!!


I completely agree! Jeez people! We get 'free' expansions very regularly, and while there are plenty of things that aren't perfect, you people need to be a lot more grateful to the great game we play and the great job CCP does!

Blinn DZarr
Posted - 2011.01.14 16:58:00 - [56]
 

Originally by: PryMary
OMFG Does everybody just moan that plays this game? EVERY time something chagnes all you lot do is moan FFS people give CCP credit for once! It's not like you could do any better!!


We whine and complain too. However, your point is well taken. Software QA is just as much an art as it is a science; you think you have all your test cases lined up and then the real world smashes all your preconceptions...

Night Epoch
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
Posted - 2011.01.14 17:01:00 - [57]
 

I can't wait. The new character creator is actually pretty awesome. Probably the best I've ever seen in an MMO, by far.

Question: that gorgeous new "volumetric lighting" that we saw on SiSi (the "god rays" when your ship eclipses the star).... will that be in ALL solar systems, or only in systems where there are active incursions?


REiiGN15
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.14 17:05:00 - [58]
 

Change what you feel CCP I'm new to this game so I don't have any moans. Finally I'll be able to create my lex luthor.

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2011.01.14 17:06:00 - [59]
 

Hi Obsidian here with a few questions -

First what is the tennative size of the patch?

Second, after trying onto sisi several times with this, the patch was almost always corrupt of failed and needed a big fat repair tool which also failed a ton of times and could not get on. IS there a way if the patch does not work or is corrupt that the individual files could be downloaded, and then run the repair tool? And with instructions of where to put the individual files and what not?

Honestly I have noticed with the larger patch sizes installers and patches tend to corrupt more and lose more info. Plus honestly downloading it in sections really makes my isp happier.

Final note, im sure im not the only one that has these problems, just offering thoughts on an alternate solution.

Umarillian
Posted - 2011.01.14 17:07:00 - [60]
 

Originally by: malaire
Are you finally going to add new keyboard shortcuts as explained in this dev blog or has this been cancelled?

Features-page still incorrectly claims that this has already been implemented in 30th November 2010 patch.


^^ What is going on with this update? Has it been delayed or will it be implemented with this release? Try as I might against all claims of the dev blog and feature page I can not find a single one of the promise shortcuts supposedly released the 30th Rolling Eyes

Feature Page

Thanks for all the great content; I hope I can get my collar back at least with the new avatars. Going to be a bit peeved if the only clothing available falls in the Gang member or business professional category as it was last time I was able to launch Sisi.


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