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Kile Kitmoore
Posted - 2011.01.12 18:50:00 - [91]
 

Reply and Watch thread notifications via e-mail?

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.01.12 18:59:00 - [92]
 

Edited by: Aineko Macx on 12/01/2011 19:11:36
Originally by: CCP Alice
Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though..

Let's make it quick and point you to a concrete proposal with 100% approval rating: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1252948

Haradgrim
Systematic Mercantilism
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:10:00 - [93]
 

Oh, Snap! Thats secksae looking!

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:12:00 - [94]
 

Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: CCP Alice
Now it just remains to be seen who will get that coveted /first post.

Lock the forum until Chribba has had the first post!

+9000 to this one!!!

You owe it to Chribba.


hi this is why you need the dislike button so this trash can see how much everyone wants him to get out

Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:12:00 - [95]
 

Edited by: Xailia on 12/01/2011 19:18:30
Finally Snitz 2000 will be a long distant memory!

It has been replaced with kittens and storm troopers!

\o \o/ o/

Oh and as for feedback, has Team 18-hours-of-static considered appearance changes for highly ranked posts, to make them stand out more?

Also does a method to suppress unhelpful posts fit into your design philosophy for the new forum. i.e. can we have a dislike button that will collapse or reduce the opacity of posts with a significantly higher number of dislikes than likes?

Galandil
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:13:00 - [96]
 

Edited by: Galandil on 12/01/2011 19:17:47
There was a feature that I like from the World of Warcraft forums (Shut up, I don't play that **** any more) that I wish that all MMO forums had. It was Jump to Next dev message button. It's rare but Sometimes when some threads get really long and it's nice to just jump from dev post to next dev post and read just their replies.

Originally by: Dev
Admittedly, the old forum search function was not up to modern standards


That's an understatement Laughing

Xailia
Unsteady Corporation
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:21:00 - [97]
 

Originally by: Galandil
...It was Jump to Next dev message button...


Or maybe even better would be a "dev view" mode for threads, that shows only the dev/gm posts.

Also a "Chribba mode" that shows only Chribba posts.

Azia Burgi
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:21:00 - [98]
 

Originally by: Altaree
IBC. STILL?!?
I think someone might have unplugged him...

Sedilis
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:32:00 - [99]
 

Quote:
Admittedly, the old forum search function was not up to modern standards


Hey you can't say that about eve-search.com! It works perfectly fine... oh wait you meant that box in the top right? Laughing

Speaking of which is Chribba ok?

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:44:00 - [100]
 

Edited by: Razin on 12/01/2011 19:46:04

Is there an option to disable the "like" and "share" functionality? If not, when do you plan to add this option?

Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:46:00 - [101]
 

In at the same time as myself!

@forums... since they are on Lé gate, will they be available to the public or do we need to log in to read them? Is there a way to see images/info without having to log on?

Signature splitting in html?

Will be interesting to see it's launch while I will miss the old forums coz they are cool.

/c

Chainsaw Plankton
IDLE GUNS
IDLE EMPIRE
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:53:00 - [102]
 

in after the big C!

and if "we are all happy to start with a nice, clean slate on our awesome new forum." what does that mean for forum bans Twisted Evil


Dogo Duma
Posted - 2011.01.12 19:54:00 - [103]
 

Edited by: Dogo Duma on 12/01/2011 20:02:02
Originally by: Kile Kitmoore
Reply and Watch thread notifications via e-mail?


That would be so much more useful than Facebook "like" crap.

It's a community forum. Not a ****ing contest, for that we have CAOD, look at how well that works and that even only has that kind of functionality with post contents. Seriously.

Is Facebook all you guys do at work? Or doesn't anybody consider the negative impact potential of node crashes and outages and threadnoughts on Google exposure and advertising ....


Also: can we set seperate forum passwords for the new forums, as in seperate from account management?


Herschel Yamamoto
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2011.01.12 20:05:00 - [104]
 

Damn it, spent too much time reading. IAC :(

@CCP: Welcome to the 21st century!

Not importing the old forums is silly, though. Maybe leave all the 90locked posts dead if it's extra work, but all active threads have really got to be imported. It's not like it ought to be hard - just treat them as posts where the OP didn't specify any tags or anything. Surely you're not forced to tag, so leaving it blank ought to be fine. If an old post wants tags, the OP can edit them in.

A few features that'd be nice: varying the number of posts on a page, "View as one page" like Eve Search has(which I always use to find dev posts on long threads, just keep page-downing until you hit blue bars), and an option to turn off the profanity filter.

Also, very important question - is the 4000 character limit still in force? Or the ridiculously small number for sigs?

Gil Danastre
Amarr
JAF-CO Exploration
Posted - 2011.01.12 20:12:00 - [105]
 

So, is that really the best picture to compare the old to new forums? One looks shiner and cooler than the other, but neither can shoot the broad side of a barn LaughingLaughing Should we take that as a literal translation to forum usage and performance?YARRRR!!

Javelin6
Dirt Nap Squad
Posted - 2011.01.12 20:39:00 - [106]
 

Okay, first off hats off to the Devs for the new forums. Special kudos to the RSS feeds and the integration to Evegate. Very very cool.

Now for the love of (your deity of choice), PLEASE give us RSS feeds for Corp/Personal Chatter and EVEMail too! Some sort of external notification of those is something that should have been included from day one of Evegate and cannot understand why is was not.

Again, good job and please help us.

Dreed Roberts
Posted - 2011.01.12 20:52:00 - [107]
 

Probably been already covered, however I read the blog and had to say this.
Where is the dislike button? - This isn't some happy clappy facebook app.

Hachi Ironfist
Gallente
Rubbish and Garbage Removal
Atlas.
Posted - 2011.01.12 21:03:00 - [108]
 

We NEED a dislike button!!!11oneone!sin^2(a)+cos^2(a)!!

Seriously though, here is why:

At this stage it's either you have an opinion (that you like what he posted) or you have NO opinion at all. This is not the answer! WE NEED to be able to say NO, I DON'T LIKE YOUR POST.

So, please do implement a "Dislike" button , it's mandatory! (like some poster said above me , maybe even gray-out some posts that have too many dislikes! It's much better than having Like and nothing.

p.s I hate facebook -.- (this being one of the reasons, the others being the privacy concerns)

Ben Derindar
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Posted - 2011.01.12 21:03:00 - [109]
 

Some various thoughts and concerns:

Quote:
Each post has a Share option, so you can share it to a social networking site of your choice outside of EVE Gate.
These options open up some really nasty possibilities for the metagaming types. We already have forum dumps and DDOSed voice comms etc, and now anyone who isn't careful could reveal their RL identities to the world. You can't tell me some people won't take advantage of that.

Quote:
The old forum will remain on eveonline.com in an archived state for read only reference and won't be ported to the new forum. This was a technical decision and besides, we are all happy to start with a nice, clean slate on our awesome new forum.
Sorry, but that reads like a cop-out. Obviously the underlying DB structure for each set of forums may be different to some degree, but I don't see how that can't be worked around. Need a better explanation for this please; I know you can do it, there have been one or two very nice techy blogs lately.

Quote:
For the ever busy amongst you, we have included a Quick Reply that will allow you to post a reply to a thread without loading a reply page with full formatting options.
Will there still be a timer of some sort preventing too many posts too quickly? If not, then this Quick Reply feature is a very bad idea. Any post made without at least some thought put into it is a bad one. For proof of this, I give you CAOD.

Quote:
So now you can finally tro.. err, let the world know about your 1337 posting skillz!
Speaking of which, where is the Report button? This is the single most important feature on the existing forums; how will anything ever get moderated in the new one without it?

Quote:
Each post has a Like button. This allows you to Like a post which is pretty self-explanatory!
No it's not. I don't see the point of this at all, unless it's to prevent empty +1 posts particularly in places like the Assembly Hall, in which case you should also implement a minimum character length, as many will continue to post +1s anyway.

Finally, I like my number columns right-aligned. That means fixing the Replies and Reads columns, please.

/Ben

PC l0adletter
Posted - 2011.01.12 21:28:00 - [110]
 

This looks nice despite being way, way, way overdue. Better late than never.

Originally by: CCP Alice

Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though..



Listen, you seem nice, and these forums you've been working on look good, but this is a bit much. I mean, have you even looked at the Assembly Hall? Have you spent 3 minutes thinking about what purpose it serves (measuring support), and how it might better serve that purpose? Have you looked at various ideascale and stackexchange and other forum-type methods for crowdsourcing, discussing, and prioritizing ideas? What about previous proposals that are directly on point from the Assembly Hall and perhaps even the CSM itself?

This really shouldn't be a brand-new issue for you. If the truth is that you looked at and thought about those things, but nothing of the sort was in the budget and/or spec that your boss gave you, then fair enough. In that case, my only complaint would be that you're not allowed to come right out and say so. However, sunny naivite is hard to swallow when these issues have been so thoroughly discussed and there is literally years of feedback on the functionality of the forums.

I'm inclined to agree that there needs to be a dislike for the F&I and Assembly Hall forums. I don't really see a pressing need for it elsewhere, although there's a lot of comic potential if you allow us to dislike dev blogs or official news posts (I'm looking at you, GM Grimmi).

Also, can you sort by most liked?

Originally by: Makko Gray
Originally by: Hemmo Paskiainen
cool, does that mean that u have more time now to fix the black op ships?


Yeah, because ASP.NET web developers know all about game development in C and Python. Then if they're not too busy they could perform brain surgery on my aunt. Rolling Eyes



Fixing black ops doesn't require any programming. Just up the jump range and give them a better tank, and whatever else players who have given this way more thought than I ever could have decided. You don't have to be a programmer to adjust ship stats, you just change a number in a database. The best part is if you screw it up, you can roll it back or tone it down just as easily.

Originally by: Iraherag

Quote:Admittedly, the old forum search function was not up to modern standards.

It was up to some kind of standard?!
Really, which one?



Wins this thread.

trjcquee
Posted - 2011.01.12 21:30:00 - [111]
 

I use these forums. I won't use that ****. You really have to try to **** up these forums more than they already are. Congratulations, you've done it.

Abdiel Kavash
Caldari
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
Posted - 2011.01.12 22:14:00 - [112]
 

Will the new forum have the option to stay logged in when I close the window?
And will it at least *try* to keep my forum settings (default character) saved?
Maybe most importantly, will the time flux posting limit be finally removed?

Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
Posted - 2011.01.12 22:31:00 - [113]
 

Edited by: Bagehi on 12/01/2011 22:31:09
Originally by: CCP Alice
Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though..


Originally by: Mynxee
Assembly Hall needs at minimum a Dislike or Unsupported button, with statistics for Like/Support and Dislike/Unsupported stats summarized at the top of each thread.

This.

Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission
EVE Trade Consortium
Posted - 2011.01.12 22:39:00 - [114]
 

Originally by: Hachi Ironfist

At this stage it's either you have an opinion (that you like what he posted) or you have NO opinion at all. This is not the answer! WE NEED to be able to say NO, I DON'T LIKE YOUR POST.

So, please do implement a "Dislike" button , it's mandatory! (like some poster said above me , maybe even gray-out some posts that have too many dislikes! It's much better than having Like and nothing.



Not only that, but "Dislike" should be ticked by default. EVE is - after all - a cruel and harsh universe. We're not here to "like" each other, we're here to kill each other, y'a know ... Wink

Sahmul
The Grimreapers.
Posted - 2011.01.12 22:41:00 - [115]
 

Originally by: Galandil
Edited by: Galandil on 12/01/2011 19:17:47
There was a feature that I like from the World of Warcraft forums (Shut up, I don't play that **** any more) that I wish that all MMO forums had. It was Jump to Next dev message button. It's rare but Sometimes when some threads get really long and it's nice to just jump from dev post to next dev post and read just their replies.


Yeah, the jump to next Dev button was sweet, would be nice if we had one of those on the new forums

Daan Sai
Polytrope
Posted - 2011.01.12 22:58:00 - [116]
 

Can I block posts by selected chars?

Janos Saal
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.12 23:00:00 - [117]
 

Whoop de ****, you finally got forum features that everywhere else on the net got ten years ago. Praising this is like praising a ******ed toddler for managing to take a **** in the potty instead of all over the floor.

Ugleb
Minmatar
Sarz'na Khumatari
Ushra'Khan
Posted - 2011.01.12 23:39:00 - [118]
 

Quote:
Thread view:

Once you go into a thread, it's all fairly straight forward. Each post shows the avatar picture, name, corporation and alliance information (if set to visible).


Why oh why oh why is this information disabled by default? I would have thought it would be something you'd switch to always on rather than deliberately keep as it is now.

It is really annoying to have to search for a character just to find out which corp/alliance they are in when the functionality is right there to tell you straight away. So why not just turn it on by default?

That is something that has frustrated me since I started using these forums all those years ago, its beyond me why you would not want to change it! ugh

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2011.01.12 23:46:00 - [119]
 

I will miss the old forums. Maybe I'll retire when the new forums roll out. :)

-Liang

Mashie Saldana
Minmatar
Veto Corp
Posted - 2011.01.12 23:47:00 - [120]
 

Will you update the rules for forum signatures, the old 24000byte limit was good back in 2003 when some people actually used dialup. Well we are now in 2011 so making that limit 3-4x bigger so we can fit transparent PNG files would be awesome. Keep the pixel limit as it is though.


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