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Mynas Atoch
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:42:00 - [31]
 

Awesome job, Blizz. Will the new forum avatars show the clothes we are wearing and our latest hairstyle too? Also, if we could get options for full body or just head and torso, and for them to rotate? That would be peachy!

Makko Gray
Pheno-Tech Industries
Crimson Wings.
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:43:00 - [32]
 

Originally by: Hemmo Paskiainen
cool, does that mean that u have more time now to fix the black op ships?


Yeah, because ASP.NET web developers know all about game development in C and Python. Then if they're not too busy they could perform brain surgery on my aunt. Rolling Eyes

I presume it's done in ASP.NET anyhow - would love a post covering more technical detail such as what solutions and components you've used to tackle the problems you faced. Would I be right in thinking you've gone down the route of ASP.NET MVC - how have you approached search, are you using basic full text indexing or are you using something such as Lucene. These things interest me. Laughing

particle9
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:44:00 - [33]
 

can you make it so that our blinging medals are shown and maybe all of our certifications, certifications are hardly used it is so sad!!!1!

Yiorgos P
Gallente
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:45:00 - [34]
 

Nice job with the new ideas and pics, but is the forum going to have the same speed as your current eve gate implementation? If yes, please, reconsider and leave the current forum. It might not be nice, and lack the new search, etc. features, but at least is operational, kind of.

Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:48:00 - [35]
 

A "dislike" button is an absolute requirement.

Kerfira
Kerfira Corp
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:48:00 - [36]
 

Originally by: CCP Alice
Now it just remains to be seen who will get that coveted /first post.

Lock the forum until Chribba has had the first post!

Azia Burgi
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:03:00 - [37]
 

Any chance we can get an RSS feed for the broadcast log and maybe EVE Gate groups so we can aggregate feeds from different people?

K'tanno
Silver Sword Industries
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:05:00 - [38]
 

Edited by: K''tanno on 12/01/2011 16:08:08

I was very happy after seeing this. They look wonderful, and much nicer than what we're using now. Then a corpmate of mine said this to me via email:

Originally by: "Aidan Patrick"
About ****ing time!!!

Just needs corp forums built in.

I would LOVE to see corporation forums built into EVE Gate. CEO's would need to be able to set them public or corp-only, maybe even have access by standing? Directors would have moderation access to their corp's forum (making stickies, moving/deleting posts, etc).

K'tanno
Silver Sword Industries
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:07:00 - [39]
 

Edited by: K''tanno on 12/01/2011 16:07:50

Originally by: Azia Burgi
Any chance we can get an RSS feed for the broadcast log and maybe EVE Gate groups so we can aggregate feeds from different people?


That's another thing. I'd like to have the EVE Gate broadcasts accessible in-game. We already have a mail/notification system capable of displaying it. Make a Broadcasts tab so that people can send/receive them in-game too! That'd be nice.

CCP Alice


Caldari
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:14:00 - [40]
 

I'll try to answer what I can here, as best I can okay :)

Originally by: Tres Farmer
Edited by: Tres Farmer on 12/01/2011 15:15:34
IBTC

edit:
How does the badge look when DEV, CSM, GM and ISD have answered in the thread? Shocked
Or does this only work for OP being by that aforementioned guys?

edit2:
Any news/details on Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums?
I thought you would at least say some words about those.. Crying or Very sadCrying or Very sadCrying or Very sad


The badge shows up if a DEV or GM started a new thread or replied in one(same as it is now). You can see it in this image from the blog. CSM and ISD don't have badges in this view, but they do have a grey badge over their avatar in the thread itself when they post something.

Unfortunately, I don't have any news or details for Assembly Hall and Feature and Ideas Subforums. Definitely open to hearing what you guys have to say or ideas for features you'd find useful though..

Azia Burgi
Caldari
Science and Trade Institute
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:15:00 - [41]
 

Edited by: Azia Burgi on 12/01/2011 16:17:20
Originally by: K'tanno
That's another thing. I'd like to have the EVE Gate broadcasts accessible in-game. We already have a mail/notification system capable of displaying it. Make a Broadcasts tab so that people can send/receive them in-game too! That'd be nice.
Yeah, please do this! I hate how it logs you out every time you close the IGB.

While I remember can you test the usability with various smartphones, please? You can't send mails via eve gate on my 'droid, it keeps selecting the background image and won't spawn the keyboard. Oh and the "comment" link doesn't work on 'droid either.

So far have only used EVE gate while on holiday and while waiting for trains.

edit: added politenes

EdwardNardella
Capital Construction Research
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:16:00 - [42]
 

I heard that fancy "share" buttons like the one you described are often used to track users browsing habits across different websites. Have you worked hard to make sure that this does not happen?

Illrean
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:19:00 - [43]
 

Something I would like to see is a button in any post by a Dev/GM etc etc that will bring you to the next post in that thread by a dev/GM etc etc.

Takeshi Ryuu
Black Octopus
Blind Octopus
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:19:00 - [44]
 

If you are going to improve Eve Gate, then can you please make the most usefull improvement ever - make it OpenID provider.

CCP Alice


Caldari
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:20:00 - [45]
 

Originally by: Malcanis
Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds?


Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Malcanis
Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds?

Logging in every single time I want to post is a non-negotiable part of my enjoyment of the EVE Online Forum Experience.


This crucial detail was discussed at the December Summit. To quote the relevant minutes:

"The new forums will not randomly log you out anymore, although there was significant support in the CSM for restoring this beloved legacy feature."

I personally am pushing CCP Alice to add random logout as a preference setting.


Haha yes I remember this during our discussion, made me smile! And I'm happy to say the new forums still don't support this feature :p

woddel
Gallente
Canis Industries Ltd
Avaricious Cartel
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:22:00 - [46]
 

Edited by: woddel on 12/01/2011 16:24:11
hia ccp devs

yes, that looks nice and promising. there are only two things i would like to comment on which you might consider:

- try to make the whole stuff vertically a bit more compact. lot's of unused space looks sleek, but results in more scrolling and worse readability. this counts especially for the channel view pages. also on the detail pages: one having a 'mobile' device or netbook with like 1024*768 screen res gets to see like two single posts before scrolling himself to death.

- if you prefer more pages with less content and therefore more page switching (like the 20 threads on the channel views where there could easely be like 30 or 40) - be sure the make the performance work so you don't have to wait to long to click and click and click and stuff. page rendering should take like less that 125 ms - under load... this does not always seem to be the case with eve gate at the moment.)

but keep up the good work. too bad you don't import the old stuff, but i guess that would be too cruel to such a nice clean sheet (until it is stained, dirty and bloody from daily use anyway within a few hours).

woddel

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:24:00 - [47]
 

Edited by: Iamien on 12/01/2011 16:37:54
Can we add EveGate as a trusted site and then be auto-logged in when we use the IGB and thus able to reply quickly? Lets say I'm logged in as Iamien and someone links a forum thread in-game. Can I just click the link and then reply without having to login?

Also if you decide to reply to my post: Any progress on the CSM suggestion that we get to re-order the channels to our liking? It would be useful to have the 4 channels that I care about at the top with the others below it.

One last thing, Please include the title(truncated if needbe) of the last-posted-in topic above the post date, in order to quickly see what is being discussed in the entire forum with one view.

Aidan Patrick
Aldebaran Foundation
Tauri Federation
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:25:00 - [48]
 

Originally by: K'tanno
Edited by: K''tanno on 12/01/2011 16:08:08

I was very happy after seeing this. They look wonderful, and much nicer than what we're using now. Then a corpmate of mine said this to me via email:

Originally by: "Aidan Patrick"
About ****ing time!!!

Just needs corp forums built in.

I would LOVE to see corporation forums built into EVE Gate. CEO's would need to be able to set them public or corp-only, maybe even have access by standing? Directors would have moderation access to their corp's forum (making stickies, moving/deleting posts, etc).


Must say while it was expected and mentioned in the past that this was coming, I'm very excited to see it finally come to fruition.

Now with that said I have a couple things I want to add:

First, corporate forums. Yep, as my corpie posted I think they need to be added. But keep it simple, stupid. (lawl...) Only members of the corporation and view or post in it, and the CEO/Directors are given moderator access. This prevents any need to screw with the roles system or create an extra system of control on the forums themselves. Each corp forum would be automatically created upon corp creation, and deleted upon corp closing. The same system would be created for alliances with the CEO of every corp in the alliance having moderation privileges.

Corp and alliance forums would then be only shown in the list of forums for members of the appropriate corp and alliance. These corporation forums would thus allow you to provide easier communication, more avenues for spying, or providing counter espionage and it brings the social aspect of eve out of game, while keeping it connected.

Now that I got my spliel about corp forums out of the way... I have some other concerns about EVE Gate.

First and foremost, nothing should be able to be done on EVE gate that cannot be done in game. For instance, Broadcasts. At this point in time to make a broadcast you need to load a browser (either in game or out of game) and post it, pulling you AWAY from the game. This is poor design plain and simple. Second, when playing, you have no active or automatic notification of broadcasts. This is an even poorer design. It turns broadcasts into a delayed message system, which defeats the whole purpose of what I perceive the broadcast system is for, and at this point you might as well just use EVE Mail, because it actually sends a notification.

So fix that too please. Even if a broadcast is just sent via Notification to anyone who would be able to see it, it needs to be done.

CCP Alice


Caldari
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:29:00 - [49]
 

Originally by: Dierdra Vaal

But will I be able to restrict my search to a few subforums at once? For example: Search for topics in both the Assembly Hall forum and the Jita Speakers Corner forum.


Not in this version, but that is one of the ideas we thought of as well for adding to search in the future. Another one was to be able to search within a time-frame, think that would be really useful too.


Komen
Gallente
Capital Enrichment Services
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:31:00 - [50]
 

Originally by: CCP Alice
Originally by: Malcanis
Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds?


Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Malcanis
Will the new forum support the most important feature of the old one: randomly logging people out every 60-120 seconds?

Logging in every single time I want to post is a non-negotiable part of my enjoyment of the EVE Online Forum Experience.


This crucial detail was discussed at the December Summit. To quote the relevant minutes:

"The new forums will not randomly log you out anymore, although there was significant support in the CSM for restoring this beloved legacy feature."

I personally am pushing CCP Alice to add random logout as a preference setting.


Haha yes I remember this during our discussion, made me smile! And I'm happy to say the new forums still don't support this feature :p



I've never even had this happen. And now I never will. I feel I shall have missed out, somehow.

Grez
Neo Spartans
Laconian Syndicate
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:32:00 - [51]
 

Edited by: Grez on 12/01/2011 16:32:27
Can you add the "Jump to post" icon to the channel view? I only see it on the forum view, and I would MUCH rather have it on the channel view than the forum view.

dungabee
Minmatar
Molden Heath Software Company
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:42:00 - [52]
 

Screenshots look good - well done CCP.

Now my question is when will CCP make EveGate as secure as the main Eve website? When I login to eveonline.com, it asks me a security question such as "type in the name of one of your characters". In EveGate you can login with the same details and see the answer to that very question.

This security question is completely redundant while EveGate doesn't have it.


Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:44:00 - [53]
 

Edited by: Iamien on 12/01/2011 16:49:48
Originally by: CCP Alice
We still have a lot of work remaining before we launch the forum on EVE Gate, as we want to launch with a solidly working, polished product. Before we commit to a final design and implementation, we want to get your feedback. To that end, we are going to put the new forum technology up on Singularity first and have you begin evaluating it next week


Is this the sly way of telling us that the new forums will not be coming with the rest of incursion pt 3 on the 18th? If so you may want to take it off the feature page.

H3llHound
Nex Exercitus
Raiden.
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:44:00 - [54]
 

Did I read this correctly? The new forum will not have any playermade posts in them when launched? So you wont bring any threads over from the old forum to the new one? Even those which arent locked?

Can you add a dislike button?

Is it possible when we have threads with multiple pages to highlight the threads page-links(The 1,2,3,..etc) in blue/red when a dev posted on that page. Often saves browsing through 10 pages of thread and ultimatly finding that the devs havent responded since the last time I checked.

Can you make notifications when a thread of mine was replied to/locked?

Can you make a list of all the threads I started?

Off-topic: Can you make eve-gate show me if I have notifications pending and not just mails?

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:47:00 - [55]
 

Originally by: Kerfira
Originally by: CCP Alice
Now it just remains to be seen who will get that coveted /first post.

Lock the forum until Chribba has had the first post!

+9000 to this one!!!

You owe it to Chribba.

The Snowman
Gallente
Aliastra
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:47:00 - [56]
 

Wow, do that many shades of grey really exist? Shocked

ivar R'dhak
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:51:00 - [57]
 

I always had the slight suspicion that I was surrounded by A..holes on the old forum.
Thnx for the CCP sanctioned heads up. Razz

New fora will be populated by obedient clones. Yay?
Wink

Okie Wren
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:54:00 - [58]
 

Awesome! Very Happy

Though may I suggest a button that takes you to the next Dev or GM comment in the thread?


Miles Dekkon
Posted - 2011.01.12 16:57:00 - [59]
 

is the evegate ever going to be mobile ready? is there someone working on the CSS?

Razin
The xDEATHx Squadron
Legion of xXDEATHXx
Posted - 2011.01.12 17:00:00 - [60]
 

Looks good.

The forum needs a clickable path to the current page (Forums/Section/Thread/etc.) at the bottom of each page as well as the top.


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