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unemployed pilot
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:04:00 - [1]
 

i mean think about, pimply face carebear gets a word of incursion in a system then proceeds to the said system with his faction/officer fitted BS thinking he is the best pver in the field and destined to be the eve's savior from sansha only to realize that those group of tempest are not there to shoot at sanshas.

Jada Maroo
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:07:00 - [2]
 

You're the first person ever to think of this ever!

Jovan Geldon
Gallente
Lead Farmers
Kill It With Fire
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:11:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Jada Maroo
You're the first person ever to think of this ever!

unemployed pilot
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:13:00 - [4]
 

i know right? Laughing oh cant wait to see those kmsRazz

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:15:00 - [5]
 

Tbh, his worry isn't the Tempests — it's those Sanshas he thinks his BS will protect him against.

These are not your daddy's L4 mission rats.

Miagi Sans
Amarr
PURgE-Corp
PURgE Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:18:00 - [6]
 

I personally cant wait.....so many reds! I'll just be picking the first non blue or purple on my list! Very Happy

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:23:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Tbh, his worry isn't the Tempests — it's those Sanshas he thinks his BS will protect him against.

These are not your daddy's L4 mission rats.
better train logi 5 then.Cool

Sporked
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:25:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Tbh, his worry isn't the Tempests — it's those Sanshas he thinks his BS will protect him against.

These are not your daddy's L4 mission rats.


Not to mention that these Incursion rats often switch targets to newcomers. Ta muchly space zombies.

Nora Skuld
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:27:00 - [9]
 

Indeed, it will be like punching a baby in the face. Your mom will be proud, I'm sure.

Idiot.

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:31:00 - [10]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 11/01/2011 20:32:31
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Tippia
Tbh, his worry isn't the Tempests — it's those Sanshas he thinks his BS will protect him against.

These are not your daddy's L4 mission rats.
better train logi 5 then.Cool
Yes. Twice. Just for the record, some of the Incursion frigates I've seen do more damage than entire L4 missions.

Major MouseTrap
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:43:00 - [11]
 

And i plan too use(Wardec mechanics) I'm in a war with my alt, again getting people outside of my corp to RR me thus making them flashy to my alts corp, free kills go team Sansha .......so many carebears to grief soo little time until they learn game mechanics...YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:43:00 - [12]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Edited by: Tippia on 11/01/2011 20:32:31
Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: Tippia
Tbh, his worry isn't the Tempests — it's those Sanshas he thinks his BS will protect him against.

These are not your daddy's L4 mission rats.
better train logi 5 then.Cool
Yes. Twice. Just for the record, some of the Incursion frigates I've seen do more damage than entire L4 missions.


FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU-

Major MouseTrap
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:48:00 - [13]
 

Got 20 people fleeted up one of the 20 is not in my corp in a RR circle jerk? Awesome. I will shoot the one not in my corp to get all the other players concorded for RR a GCC. For maximum effect I will spread my guns around as much as possible through the fleet to make sure that I gain around a few billion ISK in killboard efficiency too.YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!

Alyth
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.11 20:53:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Major MouseTrap
Got 20 people fleeted up one of the 20 is not in my corp in a RR circle jerk? Awesome. I will shoot the one not in my corp to get all the other players concorded for RR a GCC. For maximum effect I will spread my guns around as much as possible through the fleet to make sure that I gain around a few billion ISK in killboard efficiency too.YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!YARRRR!!


Don't forget the covops transport to get the inevitable shinies.

Major MouseTrap
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:03:00 - [15]
 

The only way to stop guys like me is to make the Icursion sansha invasion pockets like 0.0 then it would stop alot of the high sec game mechanics from being used agaist you ....there would be no excuse from players doing it, because they would know its a 0.0 area before going in .....but sadly i don't see that happening which is great for meLaughingLaughingLaughingYARRRR!!

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:12:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: Tippia
These are not your daddy's L4 mission rats ... Just for the record, some of the Incursion frigates I've seen do more damage than entire L4 missions.


To clarify for the folks at home: I took my regular L4 mission-running yawnfest Drake into an incursion site populated by a dozen frigates. Those frigates had me almost into armour before I got out: they scram, they web, they jam, they neut, and they're small and fast. Angel Extravaganza bonus room doesn't hurt that hard, and is easier to clear!

Malcanis
Caldari
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:21:00 - [17]
 

Originally by: unemployed pilot
i mean think about, pimply face carebear gets a word of incursion in a system then proceeds to the said system with his faction/officer fitted BS thinking he is the best pver in the field and destined to be the eve's savior from sansha only to realize that those group of tempest are not there to shoot at sanshas.


Always assuming said ganker can be bothered to travel all the way to the incursion from Motsu or Dodixie.

Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:23:00 - [18]
 

Originally by: Major MouseTrap
The only way to stop guys like me is to make the Icursion sansha invasion pockets like 0.0 then it would stop alot of the high sec game mechanics from being used agaist you ....there would be no excuse from players doing it, because they would know its a 0.0 area before going in .....but sadly i don't see that happening which is great for meLaughingLaughingLaughingYARRRR!!


I'm pretty sure they just won't invite idiots like you into fleet.



Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:25:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Mara Rinn
Originally by: Tippia
These are not your daddy's L4 mission rats ... Just for the record, some of the Incursion frigates I've seen do more damage than entire L4 missions.
To clarify for the folks at home: I took my regular L4 mission-running yawnfest Drake into an incursion site populated by a dozen frigates. Those frigates had me almost into armour before I got out: they scram, they web, they jam, they neut, and they're small and fast. Angel Extravaganza bonus room doesn't hurt that hard, and is easier to clear!
…or, for more perspective, a standard Sansha gatecamp I tested against (1 BS, 2× Cruisers, 2× Frigates) delivered just over 1200 DPS omnidamage. The frigates stood for 300 of those. And that's just a small "nuisance" group that's just there to be annoying, not to provide much in the way of a fight.

Happy hunting! Very Happy


Medarr
Amarr
Ghost Festival
Naraka.
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:25:00 - [20]
 

Edited by: Medarr on 11/01/2011 21:29:28
1 - fit omni resists
2 - bring logie's
3 - do not warp in alone. BS should warp 1st logies a bit later and as last the rest, cruisers, frigs, pods ect.
4 - set up fleet boosters to help deal with system wide incursion effects.
5 - incursions show up on map so carebears can see wich systems they should avoid.

[edit:speeling]

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:32:00 - [21]
 

Incursion checklist:
1. New PvE content. Check.
2. PvE content that encourages public participation and cooperation. Check.
3. Hyper-competitive "winning fleet takes all" reward. Check.
4. If too many people participate in a public event, the rewards are reduced. Check.
5. BPC reward can be ninja'd. Check.
6. Concord aggression mechanics can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
7. War decs can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
8. PvE fittings will be at a disadvantage in PvE content. Check.
9. NPC abilities are way out of whack compared to what PC capsuleers can do. Check.
10. PvE incursion content makes current PvE content (lower bounties, reduced resists, etc..) less fun. Check.
11. Players who don't have the time, inclination, skills, and/or ships/resources can either sit in station or view the scenery while jumping from gate to gate with their stuff to a new system. Check.
12. ????
13. Incursion expansion is successful!


Seriously, is there a dev named MyMedsStoppedWorking on the payroll at CCP?


Triple Entendre
Atrocity.
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:45:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
Incursion checklist:
1. New PvE content. Check.
2. PvE content that encourages public participation and cooperation. Check.
3. Hyper-competitive "winning fleet takes all" reward. Check.
4. If too many people participate in a public event, the rewards are reduced. Check.
5. BPC reward can be ninja'd. Check.
6. Concord aggression mechanics can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
7. War decs can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
8. PvE fittings will be at a disadvantage in PvE content. Check.
9. NPC abilities are way out of whack compared to what PC capsuleers can do. Check.
10. PvE incursion content makes current PvE content (lower bounties, reduced resists, etc..) less fun. Check.
11. Players who don't have the time, inclination, skills, and/or ships/resources can either sit in station or view the scenery while jumping from gate to gate with their stuff to a new system. Check.
12. ????
13. Incursion expansion is successful!


Seriously, is there a dev named MyMedsStoppedWorking on the payroll at CCP?




I support this product and/or service.

CCP MyMedsStoppedWorking, WE LOVE YOU!

stoicfaux
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:47:00 - [23]
 

Originally by: Tippia
…or, for more perspective, a standard Sansha gatecamp I tested against (1 BS, 2× Cruisers, 2× Frigates) delivered just over 1200 DPS omnidamage. The frigates stood for 300 of those. And that's just a small "nuisance" group that's just there to be annoying, not to provide much in the way of a fight.



How much of that DPS is from your reduced resists and how much is from the NPCs having increased firepower?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.11 21:52:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: stoicfaux
How much of that DPS is from your reduced resists and how much is from the NPCs having increased firepower?
I tested those numbers on hull… Can't remember right now if the suitcase was actually affected by the system effects. For armour and shield, resists were down by ~10%, so if the same held true for the hull resists, the raw output was ~1100 DPS total, so it's still nasty.

Major MouseTrap
Posted - 2011.01.11 22:02:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Artemis Rose
Originally by: Major MouseTrap
The only way to stop guys like me is to make the Icursion sansha invasion pockets like 0.0 then it would stop alot of the high sec game mechanics from being used agaist you ....there would be no excuse from players doing it, because they would know its a 0.0 area before going in .....but sadly i don't see that happening which is great for meLaughingLaughingLaughingYARRRR!!


I'm pretty sure they just won't invite idiots like you into fleet.



My alt's are all ready in the corp's i plan to get concorded don't Blame me.Blame CPP there the one who are creating this mess and the way for me to do it.....trust me i want it to be successful ....but if they don't change the mechanic for it in High sec its going to be one big fail.........
Originally by: stoicfaux
Incursion checklist:
1. New PvE content. Check.
2. PvE content that encourages public participation and cooperation. Check.
3. Hyper-competitive "winning fleet takes all" reward. Check.
4. If too many people participate in a public event, the rewards are reduced. Check.
5. BPC reward can be ninja'd. Check.
6. Concord aggression mechanics can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
7. War decs can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
8. PvE fittings will be at a disadvantage in PvE content. Check.
9. NPC abilities are way out of whack compared to what PC capsuleers can do. Check.
10. PvE incursion content makes current PvE content (lower bounties, reduced resists, etc..) less fun. Check.
11. Players who don't have the time, inclination, skills, and/or ships/resources can either sit in station or view the scenery while jumping from gate to gate with their stuff to a new system. Check.
12. ????
13. Incursion expansion is successful!


Seriously, is there a dev named MyMedsStoppedWorking on the payroll at CCP?



Dante Marcellus
Minmatar
Belligerent Underpayed Tactical Team
Posted - 2011.01.11 22:04:00 - [26]
 

So, to clarify (since I haven't tested any of the Incursion stuff on SiSi), not only do I want to fit a ship for PVP, but I want to join a fleet, because my Hurricane, all by itself, will die horribly? Even in .5+ systems? Seriously?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2011.01.11 22:09:00 - [27]
 

Edited by: Tippia on 11/01/2011 22:24:18
Originally by: Dante Marcellus
So, to clarify (since I haven't tested any of the Incursion stuff on SiSi), not only do I want to fit a ship for PVP, but I want to join a fleet, because my Hurricane, all by itself, will die horribly? Even in .5+ systems? Seriously?
It's team-oriented content. Some of the simpler ones can probably be run solo (as can some of the "open-space" cleanup), but you'll need some rather beefy hardware to do so and you'll get paid less if you do it with more or less people involved than the site is intended for.

To give some examples of the sites and what they think you'll need for them:

Industrial Proxy
Distress Beacon
Forward Recon Outpost
Propaganda Cluster

Mining Colony
Commander Outpost
Override Transfer Array

Overwhelmed Civilian Facility
Consolidation Network
Commander Stronghold

Provisional Headquarters
Research Center
Rebirth Facility

Goose99
Posted - 2011.01.11 22:09:00 - [28]
 

I, carebear, will be participating in the form of a covops, rdy to loot your bps :3

Ranger 1
Amarr
Ranger Corp
Posted - 2011.01.11 22:10:00 - [29]
 

Edited by: Ranger 1 on 11/01/2011 22:10:23
Originally by: Triple Entendre
Originally by: stoicfaux
Incursion checklist:
1. New PvE content. Check.
2. PvE content that encourages public participation and cooperation. Check.
3. Hyper-competitive "winning fleet takes all" reward. Check.
4. If too many people participate in a public event, the rewards are reduced. Check.
5. BPC reward can be ninja'd. Check.
6. Concord aggression mechanics can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
7. War decs can be abused to grief pick-up fleets. Check.
8. PvE fittings will be at a disadvantage in PvE content. Check.
9. NPC abilities are way out of whack compared to what PC capsuleers can do. Check.
10. PvE incursion content makes current PvE content (lower bounties, reduced resists, etc..) less fun. Check.
11. Players who don't have the time, inclination, skills, and/or ships/resources can either sit in station or view the scenery while jumping from gate to gate with their stuff to a new system. Check.
12. ????
13. Incursion expansion is successful!


Seriously, is there a dev named MyMedsStoppedWorking on the payroll at CCP?




I support this product and/or service.

CCP MyMedsStoppedWorking, WE LOVE YOU!


Indeed, sounds pretty much perfect. Signed.

Seriously though, anyone attempting an Insursion flying with people he doesn't know is foolish to say the least. Darwinism should sort that out quickly enough.

Of couse, since the Logi will likely be primary, as well as any new ships warping in for a quick gank, that Darwinism may go both ways. Laughing

Professor Tarantula
Hedion University
Posted - 2011.01.11 22:24:00 - [30]
 

Darwin believed in god, and thought mass extinctions never happened.

That is all.


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