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Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2011.01.10 17:49:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Iamien on 10/01/2011 18:21:58
http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=836
CSM minutes released. might as well have a thread in General Discussion as the one in Information Portal is insufficient.

My first reaction is that very few gameplay issues were addressed, seemed more of a summit discussing the CSM as well as FanFest.

Also, the forums will have like buttons that give the poster karma. No dis-like though.

Edit: Apparently this is 1/3 of the complete minutes. Seems to be the chronological last third as well.

Forum Guy
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:04:00 - [2]
 

Originally by: Iamien
Also, the forums will have like buttons that give the poster karma. No dis-like though.



Well that makes it all worthwhile, lmao.

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:13:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Iamien
..might as well have a thread in General Discussion as the one in Information Portal is insufficient.
*snip*

I'm curious, insufficient how?

Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:16:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Iamien
..might as well have a thread in General Discussion as the one in Information Portal is insufficient.
*snip*

I'm curious, insufficient how?


+1 karma

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:20:00 - [5]
 

Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Iamien
..might as well have a thread in General Discussion as the one in Information Portal is insufficient.
*snip*

I'm curious, insufficient how?


There are many more people that will be made aware of the minutes by this being in general discussion, those who don't check the dev-blog page every few hours. The general forum-goer is general more aware of a new thread in general discussion rather than in Information Portal which due to it's nature very rarely has new threads to read and is less lurked.

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:26:00 - [6]
 

Originally by: Iamien
Originally by: Tres Farmer
Originally by: Iamien
..might as well have a thread in General Discussion as the one in Information Portal is insufficient.
*snip*

I'm curious, insufficient how?

There are many more people that will be made aware of the minutes by this being in general discussion, those who don't check the dev-blog page every few hours. The general forum-goer is general more aware of a new thread in general discussion rather than in Information Portal which due to it's nature very rarely has new threads to read and is less lurked.

Yeah, advertising of those blogs is.. well.. non existent. You'd think they'd have a sticky in GD for them.
*thumb up*

Erin Eraser
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:37:00 - [7]
 

People are going to 'karma' their own posts with their 235 accounts. Glad to see CSM is doing good work.

Forum Guy
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:39:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: Erin Eraser
People are going to 'karma' their own posts with their 235 accounts. Glad to see CSM is doing good work.


I hope this was not just the CSMs idea, because if it was we need some new CSMs.

Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:44:00 - [9]
 

I glanced at the minutes, but must have missed the part where the CSM asked about a timeframe for getting bugs fixed in the game product. Could someone tell me what the resolution to the bugs issue was?

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:49:00 - [10]
 

there's nothing really interesting in the new minutes, at least compared to what's been hinted at elsewhere

Originally by: Forum Guy
Originally by: Erin Eraser
People are going to 'karma' their own posts with their 235 accounts. Glad to see CSM is doing good work.


I hope this was not just the CSMs idea, because if it was we need some new CSMs.


If you read the actual minutes, it was CCP's idea/implementation and the CSM pointed out how comically exploitable it is

Forum Guy
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:58:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
there's nothing really interesting in the new minutes, at least compared to what's been hinted at elsewhere

Originally by: Forum Guy
Originally by: Erin Eraser
People are going to 'karma' their own posts with their 235 accounts. Glad to see CSM is doing good work.


I hope this was not just the CSMs idea, because if it was we need some new CSMs.


If you read the actual minutes, it was CCP's idea/implementation and the CSM pointed out how comically exploitable it is


So CCP don't listen to the CSMs, that's even worse. So what was the point of the CSMs?

Obsidian Hawk
RONA Corporation
RONA Directorate
Posted - 2011.01.10 19:05:00 - [12]
 

Ahem. *clears throat*

ATTENTION STUPID PEOPLE OF THE FORUMS.

Just because it was discussed there and those things were tossed around DOES NOT mean it will make it into the final product. CCP reserves the right to put in those features discussed or not to implement them at all.

The purpose of these dev blogs are to gauge player reaction to some of the proposed changes, and they will adjust implementation accordingly. That being said, karma buttons are a bad idea. Cause in eve negative karma means you are doing something right.

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2011.01.10 19:09:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Chaos Incarnate on 10/01/2011 19:09:31
Originally by: Forum Guy
So CCP don't listen to the CSMs, that's even worse. So what was the point of the CSMs?


from the context it sounds like the CSM wasn't aware of said feature until the work had already been completed, so i think the better question is 'why did CCP not request feedback from the CSM beforehand?'

Pesky LaRue
Brotherhood Of Fallen Angels
Etherium Cartel
Posted - 2011.01.10 19:12:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Forum Guy
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
there's nothing really interesting in the new minutes, at least compared to what's been hinted at elsewhere

Originally by: Forum Guy
Originally by: Erin Eraser
People are going to 'karma' their own posts with their 235 accounts. Glad to see CSM is doing good work.


I hope this was not just the CSMs idea, because if it was we need some new CSMs.


If you read the actual minutes, it was CCP's idea/implementation and the CSM pointed out how comically exploitable it is


So CCP don't listen to the CSMs, that's even worse. So what was the point of the CSMs?
Yeah, exactly, CCP should follow everything the CSM say, without hesitation or question.

Forum Guy
Posted - 2011.01.10 19:34:00 - [15]
 

Originally by: Pesky LaRue

Yeah, exactly, CCP should follow everything the CSM say, without hesitation or question.



Nope, not saying that at all. But it is a pretty dumb idea and the flaws have been pointed out by the CSM. So hopefully nothing will come of it.

Syn Callibri
Minmatar
21st Eridani Lighthorse
Posted - 2011.01.10 19:43:00 - [16]
 

Edited by: Syn Callibri on 10/01/2011 19:43:46
Originally by: Iamien


Also, the forums will have like buttons that give the poster karma. No dis-like though.



Oh boy...just what the forums need, an "I love me" button. Rolling Eyes


Boxless
Posted - 2011.01.10 23:11:00 - [17]
 

I do love me.

fukier
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
Flatline.
Posted - 2011.01.11 01:03:00 - [18]
 

for me the best part was when the csm's talked about how hybrids need a fix...

Grimpak
Gallente
Midnight Elites
Echelon Rising
Posted - 2011.01.11 01:22:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: fukier
for me the best part was when the csm's talked about how hybrids need a fix...
now then, it's part 1 of 3.



then again, I'm expecting nothingugh

dkbjitawhore
Posted - 2011.01.11 10:36:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Grimpak
Originally by: fukier
for me the best part was when the csm's talked about how hybrids need a fix...
now then, it's part 1 of 3.



then again, I'm expecting nothingugh


Apparently we only have to wait until friday for the complete set.

Marlona Sky
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2011.01.11 11:16:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: dkbjitawhore
Apparently we only have to wait until friday for the complete set.


Gotta collect them all!

Myst Shadowheart
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.11 13:00:00 - [22]
 

"The idea of booth babes (pretty girls dressed up in EVE costumes, handing out stuff) was discouraged by the CSM"



ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

Ok i see what you did here....babes handing out stuff....
no wait I don't see it...WTF???????

CCP StevieSG

Posted - 2011.01.11 15:14:00 - [23]
 

Moved to CSM discussion from EVE General.

Br41n
Amarr
Ministry of War
Posted - 2011.01.11 15:54:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Myst Shadowheart
"The idea of booth babes (pretty girls dressed up in EVE costumes, handing out stuff) was discouraged by the CSM"


OK THAT DOES IT!!!!

Lets start resolution of no confidence in this CSM

Forum Guy
Posted - 2011.01.11 16:34:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Myst Shadowheart
"The idea of booth babes (pretty girls dressed up in EVE costumes, handing out stuff) was discouraged by the CSM"



ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked

Ok i see what you did here....babes handing out stuff....
no wait I don't see it...WTF???????



Hmm, is there something wrong with that CSM? Or was it the stuff the babes were handing out?

Myst Shadowheart
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.11 16:59:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Br41n
Originally by: Myst Shadowheart
"The idea of booth babes (pretty girls dressed up in EVE costumes, handing out stuff) was discouraged by the CSM"


OK THAT DOES IT!!!!

Lets start resolution of no confidence in this CSM


Oh the horror,THE HORROR!!! Every time someone reads that line from CSM an angel loses the wings.....and a glass of beer gets wasted somwhere around the globe!!

Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.12 13:50:00 - [27]
 

Originally by: Myst Shadowheart
"The idea of booth babes (pretty girls dressed up in EVE costumes, handing out stuff) was discouraged by the CSM"


Well, you have to look at it this way. CCP has only so much money to spend on Fanfest, so the options were:

1) Spend a lot of money on booth babes (aka Summer Glau Instant Virgin Detectors). Hundreds of players totally fail to get anywhere with them, and drown their sorrows in astronomically over-priced Icelandic booze.

2) Spend the booth-babe money on subsidizing alcohol sales. Hundreds of players depressed by the lack of booth babes drown their sorrows in only stratospherically over-priced Icelandic booze.

It was a tough call, but that's what we're (not) paid for. Twisted Evil

You will note that we fought hard to get you cheaper alcohol at the Party at the Top of the World, in the hopes that more inexpensive intoxication would induce a particularly potent beer-goggle effect in the Icelandic Maidenry.

Aineko Macx
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:21:00 - [28]
 

So you are saying particularly potent beer-goggles are required to enjoy the icelandic maidenry?

Myst Shadowheart
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.12 22:12:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Trebor Daehdoow
Originally by: Myst Shadowheart
"The idea of booth babes (pretty girls dressed up in EVE costumes, handing out stuff) was discouraged by the CSM"


Well, you have to look at it this way. CCP has only so much money to spend on Fanfest, so the options were:

1) Spend a lot of money on booth babes (aka Summer Glau Instant Virgin Detectors). Hundreds of players totally fail to get anywhere with them, and drown their sorrows in astronomically over-priced Icelandic booze.

2) Spend the booth-babe money on subsidizing alcohol sales. Hundreds of players depressed by the lack of booth babes drown their sorrows in only stratospherically over-priced Icelandic booze.

It was a tough call, but that's what we're (not) paid for. Twisted Evil

You will note that we fought hard to get you cheaper alcohol at the Party at the Top of the World, in the hopes that more inexpensive intoxication would induce a particularly potent beer-goggle effect in the Icelandic Maidenry.



Beer...babes....beer....babes........

Cut the babes by half....and spend the money in beer support.....where's the point in being drunk if I cant get humiliated by trying to hit on an uber hot girl?!?!?

Call me a dreamer but I will fight the system.....

CCP BEER&BABES(TM) please!

Trebor Daehdoow
Gallente
Sane Industries Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.13 00:34:00 - [30]
 

Originally by: Aineko Macx
So you are saying particularly potent beer-goggles are required to enjoy the icelandic maidenry?


No, I'm saying that they have to be wearing coke-bottle thick beer-googles for EVE players to have any shot at them whatsoever.

Except, of course, for the guys who voted for me, or will vote for me in the future, who are all total studs.


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