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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.07 21:05:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Wyke Mossari on 10/01/2011 12:50:45

Large parts of the PI market is distorted by large numbers of players selling PI goods significantly below their real cost.

In other markets this situation is automatically regulated through recycling.

I propose that PI goods can be recycled, into either P0 or the previous tier what ever the CSM/Dev consider is most appropriate.

This proposal is seeking support for the principle of recycling if PI rather than focusing on a single specific mechanic, but feel free to make suggestions for the CSM/Devs to consider.

captain foivos
Posted - 2011.01.07 21:08:00 - [2]
 

If this was implemented with a bit of a material loss and the PI goods turned into lower-level PI resources, it would be a good idea. Not so sure about finished products, though, like POSes 'n stuff.

Deandra Walran
Posted - 2011.01.07 22:43:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Wyke Mossari

I propose that PI goods can be recycled.


Before I can support, I must know what do you want PI goods to be recycled into? Back to P0s or minerals?

Cassina Lemour
Minmatar
Staner Industries
Posted - 2011.01.10 00:40:00 - [4]
 


De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2011.01.10 14:11:00 - [5]
 

Supporting recycling back to previous tier.

mchief117
Posted - 2011.01.10 16:44:00 - [6]
 

the main problem i have with this is most stuff you make is not easy to reverse so to say.

like how am i going to turn a pile of reserch notes back into cows and what ever else. if i have allready cut up the cow or reduced it to a pile of goo i dont think im getting it back

or how am i going to take a vial of vacine and get a virus out of it

i personaly dont see how being able to recycle PI materials is going to help and honistly if you are going to buy those PI materails that are so cheap put them to use by 1 billion units of water and ionic solution and produce coolent. having some one sell you something at 1/4 regular cost is not a problem its an advantage

Durin Sarga
Posted - 2011.01.10 18:35:00 - [7]
 

I support Wyke's proposal that some sort of PI recycling/reprocessing should be made available.

An exact mechanic would need to be worked out, quantities balanced, etc. However, this is a necessity.

T2 components can be retrieved from reprocessing T2 ships, etc. Cap components can be retrieved from reprocessing capital ships. Minerals can be regained from reprocessing cap components or anything T1. Salvage can be recovered from reprocessing Rigs.

We should be able to retrieve PI products from 'higher' tier PI products. Especially if they are an end product used for things other than PI. I.E> Coolant, robotics, all the P4, etc.

Wyke Mossari
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.12 13:15:00 - [8]
 

Originally by: mchief117
the main problem i have with this is most stuff you make is not easy to reverse so to say.

like how am i going to turn a pile of reserch notes back into cows and what ever else. if i have allready cut up the cow or reduced it to a pile of goo i dont think im getting it back

or how am i going to take a vial of vacine and get a virus out of it

i personaly dont see how being able to recycle PI materials is going to help and honistly if you are going to buy those PI materails that are so cheap put them to use by 1 billion units of water and ionic solution and produce coolent. having some one sell you something at 1/4 regular cost is not a problem its an advantage


I understand that some don't make much sense but the same holds true for many moon materials as well.

I think the benefit of fixing the PI market vastly outweighs that issue.

Also supporting my own proposal. Embarassed

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service
Posted - 2011.01.12 15:49:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Tres Farmer on 12/01/2011 15:50:54
Originally by: Wyke Mossari
Originally by: mchief117
the main problem i have with this is most stuff you make is not easy to reverse so to say.

like how am i going to turn a pile of reserch notes back into cows and what ever else. if i have allready cut up the cow or reduced it to a pile of goo i dont think im getting it back

or how am i going to take a vial of vacine and get a virus out of it

i personaly dont see how being able to recycle PI materials is going to help and honistly if you are going to buy those PI materails that are so cheap put them to use by 1 billion units of water and ionic solution and produce coolent. having some one sell you something at 1/4 regular cost is not a problem its an advantage

I understand that some don't make much sense but the same holds true for many moon materials as well.

You can't revert reactions (advanced materials are fixed and can't be recycled).
All you can do is recycle the T2 components and get advanced materials.

For comparison: this would be like recycling POS modules or whatever comes after the advanced commodities. As this is the case you're fine.

You even have a case that's WAY WORSE.. T3 subsystems. Those are made from subsystem components and CAN'T be recycled. So if you want something to be recyclable start there.. not with the PI stuff.

/not supported, working like everything else

Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
Posted - 2011.01.17 11:25:00 - [10]
 

That's what I am saying for a long time.

I'm 5particus
Minmatar
REV0LTING
Posted - 2011.01.20 10:28:00 - [11]
 



 

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