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Barratir
Posted - 2011.01.19 14:02:00 - [241]
 

Suckety suck suck...this runs like a dog on my machine.
I want my round faced slap head guy with the tats back.
When I try to recreate something close in this new thing I end up with Marty McFly ( complete with life preserver) or Vinnie Jones....
I think we should at least be able to choose to keep the old portrait.
First time I came across a character creator that needs more graphics resources than the actual game. Something not quite right there eh?

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.19 14:18:00 - [242]
 

Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/01/2011 14:21:47

Originally by: Leon Razor

1) Race and bloodline limitations

  • I like my race and bloodline. I originally picked them partially based on the in-game description and partially on how the original portraits looked.

  • Since I don't get to re-pick this for the new character creator, I'm stuck with whatever CCP decided these bloodlines will look like.

  • One example, my original avatar was black. Now he cannot be black. I feel this could be offensive to a lot of people.




Exactly. There's been threads and posts about this for months now, even proposals to change bloodline and/or race and/or at least swap portraits with other races/bloodlines - and neither CCP or the CSM (who are supposed to represent us) have EVER written any comment about this issue.

When I picked my character I chose the one who looked what was the best available to me at that time; only Achura and Khanids had access to this nice sleek hairstyle. Now I'm forced to look asian and have a very tanned look, while my original character was pretty pale and looked european. This is definitely NOT what I would have picked in the frist place, it's just forced upon me. Yes I know, some people couldn't care less, well do I care a lot!

CSM? CCP? Stop ignoring this issue?

Master Akira
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.01.19 14:19:00 - [243]
 

Would love to try this...


But I can't, as it gets stuck in a blackscreen entering the character creator -.-

Laura Zero
Posted - 2011.01.19 16:15:00 - [244]
 

Originally by: PLEX Transporter
All this time i thought the new char creator was actually ok but I tried the old one just now and sow how much better the Vherokior clothing looks in the old one, there is no clothing in the new char creator that even looks alike the old clothes! I am very dissapointed and i hope you look at the old clothing and think aha this is how minmatar clothing looks like they don't have all theese new jackets we designed for them!

Mind you, there's an important difference. Old clothes were fixed polygons, just accessories for the portrait. The new ones are designed to be actually worn and interact realistically with the body they wrap.

Omega skitz
Posted - 2011.01.19 16:21:00 - [245]
 

Edited by: Omega skitz on 19/01/2011 16:21:25
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/01/2011 14:21:47

Originally by: Leon Razor

1) Race and bloodline limitations

  • I like my race and bloodline. I originally picked them partially based on the in-game description and partially on how the original portraits looked.

  • Since I don't get to re-pick this for the new character creator, I'm stuck with whatever CCP decided these bloodlines will look like.

  • One example, my original avatar was black. Now he cannot be black. I feel this could be offensive to a lot of people.






Exactly. There's been threads and posts about this for months now, even proposals to change bloodline and/or race and/or at least swap portraits with other races/bloodlines - and neither CCP or the CSM (who are supposed to represent us) have EVER written any comment about this issue.

When I picked my character I chose the one who looked what was the best available to me at that time; only Achura and Khanids had access to this nice sleek hairstyle. Now I'm forced to look asian and have a very tanned look, while my original character was pretty pale and looked european. This is definitely NOT what I would have picked in the frist place, it's just forced upon me. Yes I know, some people couldn't care less, well do I care a lot!

CSM? CCP? Stop ignoring this issue?



Exactly... and I'm having the opposite problem with another character. I chose Brutor because I liked the description and thought of a Germanic tribesman. Now apparently I'm stuck as being black.

Laura Zero
Posted - 2011.01.19 16:25:00 - [246]
 

Originally by: Rem arkable
Seriosuly guys if you want to look at a decent range of options for an avatar creation program look at city of heroes.


It's easy to add tons of content when you're not aiming for realism.

Laura Zero
Posted - 2011.01.19 16:28:00 - [247]
 

Originally by: Omega skitz
Exactly... and I'm having the opposite problem with another character. I chose Brutor because I liked the description and thought of a Germanic tribesman. Now apparently I'm stuck as being black.

Are you serious? Brutor were black with the old creator as well.

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Lord Cherudek
Posted - 2011.01.19 16:31:00 - [248]
 

Originally by: Barratir
I think we should at least be able to choose to keep the old portrait.


Sure, and then walk as a living cartoon among human being when Incarna comes out. Cool

Muul Udonii
Minmatar
THORN Syndicate
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.01.19 16:41:00 - [249]
 

Originally by: Laura Zero
Originally by: Omega skitz
Exactly... and I'm having the opposite problem with another character. I chose Brutor because I liked the description and thought of a Germanic tribesman. Now apparently I'm stuck as being black.

Are you serious? Brutor were black with the old creator as well.



You could be very pale skinned. The first of the alts I remade was a brutor female. I got very annoyed when I couldn't make her have the same skin colour she had before.

Laura Zero
Posted - 2011.01.19 16:50:00 - [250]
 

Originally by: Muul Udonii
You could be very pale skinned. The first of the alts I remade was a brutor female. I got very annoyed when I couldn't make her have the same skin colour she had before.


Yes, but features were still very black. You could be pale but you would never have passed even remotely for Germanic. Not without a black grandaddy at least.

Sothryn Omidira
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.19 17:12:00 - [251]
 

This is my Brutor male creation. I'm much happier with this version than I was with the version that looked like a tattooed Mr. T. While he is dark, he looks more like a well tanned California beach-bum than a person of African descent.

Lillica Black
Posted - 2011.01.19 17:28:00 - [252]
 

Edited by: Lillica Black on 19/01/2011 17:30:40
Edited by: Lillica Black on 19/01/2011 17:29:49
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/01/2011 14:21:47

Exactly. There's been threads and posts about this for months now, even proposals to change bloodline and/or race and/or at least swap portraits with other races/bloodlines - and neither CCP or the CSM (who are supposed to represent us) have EVER written any comment about this issue.

When I picked my character I chose the one who looked what was the best available to me at that time; only Achura and Khanids had access to this nice sleek hairstyle. Now I'm forced to look asian and have a very tanned look, while my original character was pretty pale and looked european. This is definitely NOT what I would have picked in the frist place, it's just forced upon me. Yes I know, some people couldn't care less, well do I care a lot!

CSM? CCP? Stop ignoring this issue?


It's exactly the same for me.

When I finally managed to get the thing to log in to the character creator, instead of being able to recreate my original character, ( whom I loved the look of and spent ages on trying to get her just right, ) I found that I was only able to create a rather bland looking oriental. My character looked nothing like an oriental, but now i'm forced into having one or loose my skills.

The new portrait system is rubbish, the options are few and far between, the ability to choose colours for specific parts is non existent and were limited to whatever CCP think we should look like.

I originally chose my race for the portrait and the ships it had, ( I hate non symetrical starships ), but I had to leave for a bit due to various thngs, I came back to the game because I was intregued about the new Incarna system.

If it stays as it is, then i've decided that i'm not going to renew my account when the current time runs out. I refuse to play as a character that I can no longer recognise as my own.

Cindra Bane
Posted - 2011.01.19 19:25:00 - [253]
 

Not to jump subject but someone mentioned capturing portraits of people they know ingame. I remember this being possible I just don't recall how or if it is still possible.

How does one now do that?

Tinteq NoHelp
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.20 02:42:00 - [254]
 

is there going to be anyway to keep the characture from moving around ? it's like sculpting in the back of a bus on an unused dirt road with a drunkard at the wheel.

Omega skitz
Posted - 2011.01.20 06:07:00 - [255]
 

Originally by: Laura Zero
Originally by: Muul Udonii
You could be very pale skinned. The first of the alts I remade was a brutor female. I got very annoyed when I couldn't make her have the same skin colour she had before.


Yes, but features were still very black. You could be pale but you would never have passed even remotely for Germanic. Not without a black grandaddy at least.


My other character pulled it off by changing the features to my liking and the color palette allowed for a much lighter skinned Brutor.

Sothryn Omidira's creation looks great. I need to figure out what they did with the lighting. Frankly, I'm still disappointed CCP didn't let us change bloodlines.

LaserFurry
Posted - 2011.01.20 07:04:00 - [256]
 

So what happens when grace period is over ? I liked my old avatar more , I like "anonymous" avatar more than monstrocities born by new facegen.

Ayerdhal
Amarr
PamPam Flying Circus
Astromechanica Federatis
Posted - 2011.01.20 10:01:00 - [257]
 

Edited by: Ayerdhal on 20/01/2011 10:04:06
Edited by: Ayerdhal on 20/01/2011 10:03:14
Edited by: Ayerdhal on 20/01/2011 10:02:50
Hello,

This character creator is a real nice tool, but something bothers me.
You can't create really old or fat toons, or at least "realistically" ugly.
This is particulary true regarding the female creation.
Whatever you do, you always end up with some sexy futuristic or manga-like b.... .
I tried to make an old female retired pod pilot on one of my accounts and the only thing I could get was some kind of 30 yo sexy (more or less) blond.
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Leave that part to the coreean MMORPG and their frustrated teen players!
Give us the right to get real mature avatars inspace! Very Happy

Veldar Zeran
Posted - 2011.01.20 10:52:00 - [258]
 

Actually I liked the new creator, its realism and especially that the characters can now be more diverse. But I've already faced some bug in my character's portrait - in the game it appears with the robe hood on his head, though I made it without one and it wears no hood on start page image. Now I'm waiting for the promised opportunity to redesign the portrait.

Amara Valde
Posted - 2011.01.20 12:13:00 - [259]
 

Originally by: Jennifer Starling

When I picked my character I chose the one who looked what was the best available to me at that time; only Achura and Khanids had access to this nice sleek hairstyle. Now I'm forced to look asian and have a very tanned look, while my original character was pretty pale and looked european.


I've never seen an Achura or Khanid who looked anything other than Oriental under the old system, but I agree that the old portraits were a major factor in deciding which bloodline to choose (since there was negligible difference in the skillsets, and you could just fly to whichever part of New Eden you wanted to work in). It shouldn't be difficult to swap bloodlines (even if it's not realistic, but hey, changing your face halfway through your life isn't either) and I'd happily train Gallente Frigate or any other racial skills if it allows me to change bloodline and look like what I wanted to look like. I'm lucky my Ni-Kunni didn't really suffer much, while the Oriental portraits are all improvements in my opinion (they were always meant to be Oriental). Deteis, Brutor, Intaki and several others really need some love, though, or the option to change to something nicer.

Valdemir Nonato
Posted - 2011.01.20 12:53:00 - [260]
 

Edited by: Valdemir Nonato on 20/01/2011 13:04:03
Also what about a little bit more more than the few limited choices we have regarding to hairstyle? There is like no interesting hair, especially for male characters; it's all short (except from the dreadlocks). Also usability in for example the backgrounds is far below optimal. And surely it should be possible to at least change clothing colours, limited and arguably unimaginative as they are?

Besides that: I do love it :) Like the way my chara turned out too, even if his old Saiyan hairstyle wasn't available :(

As example:
Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.

From a right empress oozing power to Plain Jane the Boring And Then Some More. Say what now?

Brandy Kaundur
Posted - 2011.01.20 16:47:00 - [261]
 

Edited by: Brandy Kaundur on 20/01/2011 16:51:30
Originally by: Omega skitz
Edited by: Omega skitz on 19/01/2011 16:21:25
Originally by: Jennifer Starling
Edited by: Jennifer Starling on 19/01/2011 14:21:47

Originally by: Leon Razor

1) Race and bloodline limitations

  • I like my race and bloodline. I originally picked them partially based on the in-game description and partially on how the original portraits looked.

  • Since I don't get to re-pick this for the new character creator, I'm stuck with whatever CCP decided these bloodlines will look like.

  • One example, my original avatar was black. Now he cannot be black. I feel this could be offensive to a lot of people.






Exactly. There's been threads and posts about this for months now, even proposals to change bloodline and/or race and/or at least swap portraits with other races/bloodlines - and neither CCP or the CSM (who are supposed to represent us) have EVER written any comment about this issue.

When I picked my character I chose the one who looked what was the best available to me at that time; only Achura and Khanids had access to this nice sleek hairstyle. Now I'm forced to look asian and have a very tanned look, while my original character was pretty pale and looked european. This is definitely NOT what I would have picked in the frist place, it's just forced upon me. Yes I know, some people couldn't care less, well do I care a lot!

CSM? CCP? Stop ignoring this issue?



Exactly... and I'm having the opposite problem with another character. I chose Brutor because I liked the description and thought of a Germanic tribesman. Now apparently I'm stuck as being black.



Yes this indeed needs to be fixed. Would be nice to have more modifications to avatar then just stretch a lil here and a lil there.I mean come on if you are going to stick us with this toon let it be something that we like.not something we have to settle with.YARRRR!!
They should allow people to pick between races for these new avatars not everyone wants to look like trolls. Just saying.Shocked

Ranka Mei
Caldari
Posted - 2011.01.20 17:20:00 - [262]
 

Now that the expansion update has been postponed, this would be a good time to add larger snapshot thumbnails. Especially since snapshots are really that: taken just when your character may have her eyes closed or something. It's really important to get that right. Like the clipping errors in my hair. I assure you, they weren't there in 'big'.

Actually, the problem is even worse. Not only is the snapshot-making process, for the forum images, rather fickle, but apparently a different snapshot is being used for the log-in portrait (or vice versa?). To wit:


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George Bush Walker
Posted - 2011.01.21 22:09:00 - [263]
 

I really liked this creator...Can we use this to create a duplicate of ourselves as well? :P

Sora De'Quasar
Minmatar
Cosmodynamics
Posted - 2011.01.22 09:49:00 - [264]
 

Edited by: Sora De''Quasar on 22/01/2011 09:50:16
first I was annoyed that we couldnt put any tattoos or piercings, as Minmatar its a big issue... but hey, I got my excitment back when CCP said that they will put that option later on... so... in total, I love the new charactr portaits ^^
Can't wait to put the last touches for my Minmatar character :)

NightFalc0n
Posted - 2011.01.22 20:09:00 - [265]
 

I think my character is glitched

Tinteq NoHelp
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.23 21:02:00 - [266]
 

i finally got the character creator to work/load quickly, i had to switch to window'd mode, set all graphic to minium and use the mouse buttons at the top left (looks like two circles with a bar between) and not the labeled buttons on the lower right until your ready to finish.

i think the old character creator had a greater breadth of definitions and was a little easier to use. i can't understand why they didn't attempt to use our old toons to make new ones and let us tweek them.

Deus Ex'Machina
Amarr
modro
R.A.G.E
Posted - 2011.01.23 21:38:00 - [267]
 

As amarr female don't use "eyeliner 6" it's bugged. Black will be white :|

Anti Pod
Posted - 2011.01.24 05:08:00 - [268]
 


Floydd Heywood
Posted - 2011.01.24 14:30:00 - [269]
 

Originally by: Barratir
First time I came across a character creator that needs more graphics resources than the actual game. Something not quite right there eh?


Chances are that everybody who cannot run the Character Creator now won't be able to run the game at all once Incarna is upon us. So they should take this as a warning, go to a friend with a modern computer to recreate their chars and in the meantime save some money to upgrade their hardware before the next expansion...

...or quit. Computer games are expected to evolve as hardware evolves, and the price for that is that we have to own reasonably modern machines. EVE may lose some players who are unable or unwilling to modernize their computers every few years, but it will gain or keep others who would quit if EVE's graphics were to stagnate.

Nai Weil
Caldari
M. Corp
M. PIRE
Posted - 2011.01.25 12:53:00 - [270]
 

It would also be great if we could double-click any of the 4 thumbnails and have all settings revert to when the pic was taken, so you can modify the pose in pic 1 or pic 2 a little and see the difference.


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