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Leon Razor
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:04:00 - [211]
 

First, I am very impressed with the technology behind this new character creator. I love the high quality textures, the resolution, and the dynamic clothing and hair effects.

With that said, I'm very reluctant to make my character right now because like so many others, I don't want to get "stuck" with something I hate only to wish I had waited until the next iteration on this feature.

The two major problems I'm having right now:

1) Limited variety of options. Examples (most have been mentioned before):

  • No height adjustment

  • No accessories

  • Limited hair styles and lengths

  • Only one style of sunglasses in New Eden

  • Need more clothing



1) Race and bloodline limitations

  • I like my race and bloodline. I originally picked them partially based on the in-game description and partially on how the original portraits looked.

  • Since I don't get to re-pick this for the new character creator, I'm stuck with whatever CCP decided these bloodlines will look like.

  • One example, my original avatar was black. Now he cannot be black. I feel this could be offensive to a lot of people.



Now, I can see down the road actually walking around in stations with our new characters and visiting barber shops, dress makers, and eye wear boutiques, and then they (better) let us take new character portraits on a regular basis so we can show off our new shiny new hat (did I mention I miss my hat thing?). Things like character height do not seem like they would be flexible though, so I guess everyone will always be at eye level. Also, having multiple photos is a great idea which looks like it's already implemented, but it's just a tease by CCP. Right now, people are literally afraid to use this new toy, and that just sucks.

CCP, we need some elaboration on whats quoted below.

Originally by: mkmin
Originally by: CCP Caedmon
On the topic of more options, we really wanted to have tattoos out in this release but for various reasons we had to postpone them. Work is now underway to get tattoos as well as scars, piercings and more glasses in the game. In the next release we plan to introduce the option to re-customize your character from within the game to take advantage of all the new options. Expect to see more and more options coming in future releases. We have a lot of things we would love to see and we will be using feedback from this and other threads to help us make decisions on what we put in and when.


If you gave us a firm commitment in a blog that we would all be able to redo our potraits once in the month of June, well, then I could cheerfully jump in here , do my best.. give some feedback about what I'd hope improved between now and June.. practice more on the test server and be readdy then to give it a final shot on the system you'd have then with all your planned bells and whisltes in place.

If I knew I'd get to do it all again in June, I could dwell on the positives of what is there in this first iteration and eagerly anticipate the extra we'd get down the road.[/quote

Kaldor Mintat
Adhocracy Incorporated
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:39:00 - [212]
 

The creator itself is impressive but unfourtanetly for me that pales because of the very limited options. Not even close to get a decent likeness on most of the charachters (all of which i actually worked on when i created them to get something i liked).

Now most of the bloodlines look more or like the same. Same looks on many, same hairstyles, same clothing. I realize this is said to be expanded on later but we have all heard that song before. For soemthing that was meant to be one of two major parts of an expansion i class it a dissapointment so far.

Pasmerktas
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:52:00 - [213]
 

/This ->

Originally by: Leon Razor

CCP, we need some elaboration on whats quoted below.

Originally by: mkmin
Originally by: CCP Caedmon
On the topic of more options, we really wanted to have tattoos out in this release but for various reasons we had to postpone them. Work is now underway to get tattoos as well as scars, piercings and more glasses in the game. In the next release we plan to introduce the option to re-customize your character from within the game to take advantage of all the new options. Expect to see more and more options coming in future releases. We have a lot of things we would love to see and we will be using feedback from this and other threads to help us make decisions on what we put in and when.


If you gave us a firm commitment in a blog that we would all be able to redo our potraits once in the month of June, well, then I could cheerfully jump in here , do my best.. give some feedback about what I'd hope improved between now and June.. practice more on the test server and be readdy then to give it a final shot on the system you'd have then with all your planned bells and whisltes in place.

If I knew I'd get to do it all again in June, I could dwell on the positives of what is there in this first iteration and eagerly anticipate the extra we'd get down the road.



I was able to get my char look good enough for me and close as possible to old one, but i was forced to cut down my hair. Although I really hope we will be able to adjust height, head size and put on new stuff. CCP please respond

gulftobay
Posted - 2011.01.19 02:52:00 - [214]
 

Originally by: Argonaught

Can't redo my Char until all the features are in place for this.
My Char is Minmatar and no matter what way i do him up he looks like a pleb without his Tattoos.

Hopefully you'll have the extra items added in before you make us design a new face.

Argonaught.



Malo Ginneko
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:01:00 - [215]
 

Plz someone tell me where can I find 4 portraits. in my PC ? or somewhere? and My question, actually its not a question but a conplain, is why do we need to take 4 portraits even we can NOT chose one of them? In game portrait is NOT one of 4 portraits I took before got in game play.

Shade Millith
Caldari
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:07:00 - [216]
 

Edited by: Shade Millith on 19/01/2011 03:08:05
My review

"There's plenty of things wrong with it.

The character won't bloody sit still

The face has too few moveable areas, and the movable parts have too smaller movement area. Making a snarl is impossible.

The lighting should be a moveable light source, not 7 preset ones.

Clothing options are almost nonexcistant. You have maybe 3 choices per item, and the rest is palate swaps.

There's less options for personalising the character. My character used to have metal plates on his face.

There is no proper preview of what your photo is, you get 4 tiny ones that don't show any detail. I can't even tell on them if the characters eyes are closed, because the character blinks!

Worse thing is, I'm going to be stuck with this, even if they fix these things later. Very unimpressed."

Divenia
Minmatar
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:23:00 - [217]
 

I gave up trying to make my new portrait look like my old one, as I kept thinking "well it's vaguely like her, but it's just not her."

I thought about it for awhile and decided that would bother me endlessly. So I starting fresh and gave her a major new look. Although I managed to at least give her the same expression and attitude she had before.

I think having the character blink on the portrait finalisation stage is unnecessary, especially when photos are being taken at this point. A larger variety of clothes would also be nice.

However overall I'm satisfied with the new portrait. I'm also getting a kick out of seeing everyone elses. Amazing variety now.

Jawfish
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:27:00 - [218]
 

Edited by: Jawfish on 19/01/2011 03:38:28
Quote:
Plz someone tell me where can I find 4 portraits. in my PC ? or somewhere? and My question, actually its not a question but a conplain, is why do we need to take 4 portraits even we can NOT chose one of them? In game portrait is NOT one of 4 portraits I took before got in game play.


I ran into this problem too. I really hope we get to do these portraits again at some point soon. When I was setting up my portrait, I took 4 snap shots, 2 of which I really liked. When I clicked "Save", I thought I was going to pick from one of the four snap shots. This seemed perfect logical. Nope! I hate this portrait, and its only the first day of me dealing with it Embarassed

I think this lack of final confirmation is terrible. It should at least show you the final portrait and be like "This will be your portrait [Confirm] / [Cancel]" It is very frustrating to be excited for this change then end up with a portrait I hate on the first try.

Black Necromunger
Amarr
Viziam
Posted - 2011.01.19 03:45:00 - [219]
 

Originally by: Nebula Wolf
Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad
Character creation crashes my client. And I don't care that it does.
Which would be a problem if I wasn't planning to keep my old profile picture. I have become attached to that profile pic. It has come to represent an ever immersive fantasy of me as a space pilot in a game called eve. Forcing me to change that image of who I have come to think of as myself (in game), is extremely disturbing. I don't even like playing alts as it destroys the illusion that I have a unique identity in this game. I don't think this was thought out and I am sure that there are other players that find this move invasive. I don't remember randomly messing with players accounts in the EULA as the character creation does not effect game play.
Evil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very MadEvil or Very Mad


Yep, totally agree with ya on that one. What I find most odd though, is that I can create a completely new character in a free slot I have with no problems at all, but when I try to create a new face for my main character the one I actually use, it does not load in, so theres a mystery for ya. Any ideas on that one?, because I am completely bloody baffled by the whole thing. Did it really need to be changed?. Why change something that worked well, in exchange for something that is quite frankly a bit dubious.

I think maybe some creative work should be put in to the corporation management, it is more needed because at the moment it is a complete cludge fest regarding POS security blah blah, just a hint there on what you really should be working on CCP.

Ta

Black Necromunger

Lord Kumoy
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:36:00 - [220]
 

Mine is like seriously messed up.... Right when it says entering character creator the whole thing just sits there.. nothing comes up.. help?

Oddeon
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:41:00 - [221]
 

Has there been an issue with actually entering the character creation mode?` I say yes to enter the creation part then I watch with anticipation as the progress bar shows full and then it just stops. Have tried it with each of my toon ans over the period of an hour. Seen this before?

Thx.

FV12
Gallente
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:47:00 - [222]
 

man i liked the long sleek hair...it made me look just like the old character but you had to remove it and leave some crappy dreadlocks which sucks. Thanks CCP :/

Harrigan VonStudly
Original Sin.
Underworld Excavators
Posted - 2011.01.19 04:57:00 - [223]
 

Hats off to CCP for the new character creator. Got myself looking better than I imagined. Worlds of difference between old and new.

Oddeon
Posted - 2011.01.19 05:07:00 - [224]
 

Looks like Lord Kumroy and I have the same problem...

Blueclaws
Rabid Beavers
Posted - 2011.01.19 06:55:00 - [225]
 

Originally by: Hirana Yoshida
Originally by: Rocius
Caldari pic there = Awesome improvment

Amarrian lady = Horrible looking ...

Hahaha yea, Caldari one turns from a night shift steel worker into a bad-ass action hero, while the Amarr goes from holier-than-thou regal "don't mess with this" to a dishevelled anorexic Goth high-school washout.


You have to give people a reason to want to be Caldari.

ph46
Posted - 2011.01.19 08:03:00 - [226]
 

Originally by: CCP Caedmon
As Bella Bee already confirmed there will be a grace period of around one month. The end-date will be announced when we know it and with enough notice for players to react. During the grace period players will be able to log into the game without having to go through the new character creator. As Bella Bee also pointed out, for those of you with alts whose appearance doesn't matter to you, there is the randomize option to allow you to speed through the process.

On the topic of more options, we really wanted to have tattoos out in this release but for various reasons we had to postpone them. Work is now underway to get tattoos as well as scars, piercings and more glasses in the game. In the next release we plan to introduce the option to re-customize your character from within the game to take advantage of all the new options. Expect to see more and more options coming in future releases. We have a lot of things we would love to see and we will be using feedback from this and other threads to help us make decisions on what we put in and when.


Excellent, thank you! :)

Kobaalt CalrijianZata
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:14:00 - [227]
 

I have a big problem with the portrait editor,i just can't access to it:black screen.It must be my graphic card unfortunatly.I really need to change my computor too!
But i can't change it now,and i'm wodering if i can make my portrait in a few month without pay something?

Ak'athra J'ador
Amarr
Imperial Shipment
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:32:00 - [228]
 

fishnets and ridiculous jewellery...you cant be Amarr without it.

muktorthebutcher
Posted - 2011.01.19 09:53:00 - [229]
 

I can not access character creation tool just like others

Laura Zero
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:29:00 - [230]
 

I absolutely love how the new character creator works and I'm deeply satisfied with the results. Sure, there could have been more options, but I am sure you will be able to buy more clothes in stations, maybe even have tattoos.

This said, people must be very short sighted when they complain about Dev waste of time, they should concentrate on gameplay things, etc. Since when graphic artists are the same programmers working on deep gameplay mechanics? They are different departments and using resources from one won't remove them from the other.
Rolling Eyes

Buzzy Blue
Gallente
Posted - 2011.01.19 10:44:00 - [231]
 

I wanna change Bloodline Old Intaki female are better than new ones ugh

Sassy babe
Posted - 2011.01.19 11:33:00 - [232]
 

The point Id like to make is this:

These are supposed to be people from vastly different cultures that have been living on alien worlds for tens of thousands of years so why do they all dress like mordern day westerners? Do we dress like people from 100 years ago let alone 40,000 years ago and from another planet!

The tool its self is awsome but there needs to be more options and much more differences in style between the races and ability to make them look much more futuristic or alien in culture. Why the hell would an Amarrian be wearing a leather biker jacket, cargo pants and trainers!! Its just stupid and like saying that modern day dress is the peak of human evolution( in dressing terms lol) At least the amarr can still wear the hooded clock and look evil.

Argus Xen
Minmatar
Adventurers
Posted - 2011.01.19 11:50:00 - [233]
 

Well, I just got to see the new char creator today, and I think it's quite good. At least I've been able to shape the face as I like very quick (and I just couldn't make it in the old editor...) It was good to see much more hairstyles (which were almost non-existent for Sebiestors before...) The lighting for photos also looks amazing.

But, of course, as many people already said, the distinct features of all races should be brought back. You can hardly tell the difference between races now.
By distinct features I don't even mean facial features, but rather tatoos, headsets, decorations, and cloathes. Really. There must at least be variety in clothes for each race. What we have now merely suits Caldari, or, maybe, Gallente.
And it would be really nice if those features were implemented and we were given an opportunity to edit our avatars once again.

isk4trade
Caldari
Cogitation Mining and Industrial Trading
Posted - 2011.01.19 11:55:00 - [234]
 

Originally by: Sassy babe
The point Id like to make is this:
... At least the amarr can still wear the hooded clock and look evil.


Yes it is quite valuable for telling the time, but not letting others see what it is, to wear the hooded clock!

Very ... erm ... "clock and dagger".

I myself say that the sliders' ranges are pitifully inadequate. At maximum, the age slider is only capable of a FEW wrinkles and at its full extent, the scarring looks like what might be left by a moderately bad attack of pubescent acne.

isk4trade sighs heavily.

me

Pod Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.19 11:59:00 - [235]
 

Originally by: John McCreedy
I don't know if you guys at CCP are aware of this or if anyone has mentioned it but the latest copy of PC Gamer UK has a big article on Eve and cites this character creator as by far the best there is out there or on the current horizon for any game Smile


They are aware of it because they have paid for the review.
You really think this is not how it works?

Almost all of the reviews that are on the web these day for all the industries being electronics games and what not are paid.

There is eve banners plastered all over the website do you think they will ever post anything negative?

I know bit cynical unfortunately this is the reality.




Hell big electronic companies are paying "amateur" [see hired actors]
to make reviews and post them on youtube. There are departments for this.



Xantor Bludberry
Amarr
Posted - 2011.01.19 12:29:00 - [236]
 

Originally by: Sassy babe
The point Id like to make is this:

These are supposed to be people from vastly different cultures that have been living on alien worlds for tens of thousands of years so why do they all dress like mordern day westerners? Do we dress like people from 100 years ago let alone 40,000 years ago and from another planet!


Yes, it's really just frustrating. Clothes just ridiculous, what a Harlem hip-hop style? Sunglasses are killing me outright. One kind of glasses? People, at least you've seen "The Fifth Element"? Why are removed, undo-redo? Khanid had a wonderful semi-transparent helmets and hoods, and now they are not. Where a red background with gold dragons? Where the "Fist"? Set the heap of lifeless backgrounds. Changing the light does not act on the background now!

LinChow
Posted - 2011.01.19 13:03:00 - [237]
 

The damn character making thingy don't work for ****. All I see is a set of floating dentures with a tongue inside it... nothing else!!!

As usual, new stuff sucks in eve. Fix and go home... don't try to create ANYTHING ELSE!!!

Rem arkable
Posted - 2011.01.19 13:06:00 - [238]
 

The new editor is interesting but not nearly enough to be the best in the industry.
The hair style and color options are far too limited - has noone heard about the invention of hairdyes.

Accessories
Tatoos
Implants
Nails



Clothing and shoes styles are far too conservative and not nearly futuristic enough.
You should be able to change the colors of the clothing styles and add remove pattersn from them.
The backgrounds are rubbish. Since they are purely used in the photo taker - you should be able to import your own.

Seriosuly guys if you want to look at a decent range of options for an avatar creation program look at city of heroes.

IMHO - it looks like its pre-nerfed so that we all spend plex or microtransactions redoing them with more 'goodies' later on when walking in stations comes along.


Zoe Earhart
Posted - 2011.01.19 13:27:00 - [239]
 

Very Happy Tanks CCP!! I think the new character creation is very cool.

Dula Meis
Posted - 2011.01.19 13:55:00 - [240]
 

everything looks beautiful. only two issues (IMHO, anyway):

1. there should be an option to make the character stand still. It wasn't a huge deal but it seems like it may not help the frame rate, and there's no reason I can think of why the character's head should be drifting left and right when I'm trying to adjust its cheekbones.

2. why on earth you'd not put a confirmation dialog box after clicking the Save button is just unfathomable.


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