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StarFleet Enterprises
BricK sQuAD.
Posted - 2011.01.17 14:06:00 - [151]

Something else I would suggest is the option to set visibility of completed, and possibly in-progress, private (pilot-to-pilot) contracts. Designated contracts should show in contract history, possibly under a separate entry in the Contract Type pulldown. Visibility options should be private (default), public, alliance, corp, and superiors only (directors, CEO, and alliance executors).

Examples of where this would be useful include verifying that pilots have handed loot over to people who lost ships, or that someone who claimed to be holding a contest delivered the prize.

Note: by 'completed', I mean that it would display after the contract has finished. However, allowing already-finished contracts to be made visible might be desirable.

Posted - 2011.01.18 02:02:00 - [152]

Please bring back loan contracts!

Posted - 2011.01.18 15:41:00 - [153]

Originally by: CCP Atlas
  • Added some l33t filtering options in the TYPES search box for the foolishly brave among you.
    • XXX:typeName where XXX is the name of a group or a category. Example: Ship:Raven. This is a quick way to do the same filtering as you get with the category/group dropdown boxes.
    • typeName|YYY where YYY is the name of a meta or a tech level. Example: Hardener|Faction
    • úberl33t example: module:hardener|faction will search for faction hardeners and only in the module category (skip blueprints)

Does that mean we can do Ship:Myrmidon, Rig:Energy Grid to search for two items in the same contract? (This was my earlier suggestion, and I am guessing my example would find all contracts containing at least 1 myrmidon and at least 1 energy grid rig of any tech level.)

Would this use a comma or semicolon, or is it not implemented? Also, where would we find the syntax for this, other than in your post? Can we have a small blurb on the eve wiki or something?

Predlt Twismo
Twismo's Deliveries
Posted - 2011.01.18 20:08:00 - [154]

when / where are the changes going to be turned on?

Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
Posted - 2011.01.18 21:16:00 - [155]

I am also very curious about when the experimental contract search will be turned on.

Posted - 2011.01.19 04:16:00 - [156]

Hi CCP Fallout

Is it possible to delete the "warning" you get when contracting cargo containers that have an item or more in it? The warning is so very annoying, especially when you want to contract 100 giant secure containers via a courier or any other form of contract. Or at least if we could have the option to not have the warning be repeated again. That would be such a great feature :). Tks for your time.


Posted - 2011.01.20 10:06:00 - [157]

Originally by: El'essar Viocragh
No storefronts? Sad


They were promised you know, you promised badly.

Locin WeEda
Red Frog Investments
Posted - 2011.01.23 19:44:00 - [158]

I am still interested in knowing why the experimental contract search did not make it to TQ in Incursions 1.1. Did the servers melt? A critical bug?

When is it scheduled for release on TQ now or has it been scrapped? It is no longer on Sisi, so we can't search for bugs.

CCP Atlas

Posted - 2011.01.26 13:08:00 - [159]

We are doing some final UI tweaks and will probably enable this in an experimental capacity(*) in the next few days. Smile

(*) Meaning it could be pulled if we are unhappy with it functionally or if things melt.

Opticus light
Posted - 2011.01.27 15:45:00 - [160]

♥Nice job!♥

Tora Bushido
Posted - 2011.01.27 15:52:00 - [161]

GREAT JOB DONE ! Finally a good working search contract tool.......Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy Maybe have extra options on for default. Thats what many people already said in local chat.

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.01.27 16:05:00 - [162]

One annoyance detected:

There is no way to change the width of the option panel on the left. A draggable splitter between search options panel and the results part of the window would be very nice.

Ellie McAmber
Dandelion Wine Refineries Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.27 16:20:00 - [163]

Edited by: Ellie McAmber on 27/01/2011 16:21:02
Here is my feedback after I tried it and clicked everywhere.

Nice-looking UI, except the "SEARCH" button is located somewhere... down there, and is not really EVE-like.
Great ability to search by partial type names.

Now, to the actual problems.

WHY, why was the ability to search the contracts by description taken away???
Contracts were searchable by description from the very beginning.

Because many people search by description now, properly worded descriptions are a very effective marketing tactic (for example, description for a Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amp sale might say, "same as Caldari Navy Shield Boost Amplifier). Personally, I add the name of the ships the item is useful for to the description ("Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster CNR Hulk Tengu").

This is useful for my customers, and is useful for me, because it allows me to outcompete other sellers while selling at the same (or even slightly higher) price.

What's even worse is that the dreaded "[Multiple Items]" contracts are still showing up in search as just that, "[Multiple Items]". It has always been a hassle to sell rigged ships because the buyers don't see the icon of the rigged ship. At least, with properly worded description, I could easily sell a rigged Navy Raven ("Raven Navy Issue CCC I x3 CNR CCC"). Believe it or not, many people try searches for CNR CCC, and buy my Ravens. Now, they have to search for a Raven Navy, they will get a list of a bunch of "[Multiple Items]", and will have to cllick/mouseover all of them to find mine.

I see absolutely no legitimate reason why this particular game mechanics should be removed, given that it has been useful and, most importantly, FUN. Now contract traders will have to "compete" on price alone.

I doubt the "beta" will be changed before actual release, of course. But if someone of the devs is reading it, please reconsider. The old duo of description and type search fields added more dimensions to contract trading, and was a BETTER solution.

Dave PSI
Gilde Alliance
Posted - 2011.01.27 16:58:00 - [164]

the new contract window doesn't remember the "settings" like arrow up for prices etc.

a meta-Level item search would be also awesome

Nikolai Kondratiev
Sphere Design Inc.
Posted - 2011.01.27 17:01:00 - [165]

+1 for search button, something is wrong about it.

Also the UI really miss an option somewhere to filter out copies. Since contracts are the only way to trade researched blueprints, it would be nice to not have to brwose through hundreds of copies each time.

Courrier contract interface seem very nice, the reward/collateral/volume filters will certainly help a lot. But it might be nice to also add a "high sec only" checkbox.

Dijkstra Algo
Posted - 2011.01.27 17:06:00 - [166]

Hmm would it be possible to add a refined search option for blueprints that would bring up only originals or even a column you press to would do that.

Rakeron Adoulin
Posted - 2011.01.27 17:08:00 - [167]

Just the first minute of using it I was already enjoying it. This is a step in the right direction for Contract browsing and other miscellenious things. If I happen to find any hiccups or problems in the system, I'll let you guys know.

Keep up the good work, CCP.

Telliara Calanista
Posted - 2011.01.27 17:14:00 - [168]

I love you CCP, this makes me happy.

Posted - 2011.01.27 17:25:00 - [169]

To be honest I do not like the new search feature. It made in a nightmare trying to look at the contracts. The lay out is not clean and crisp as it is now.It made me feel as i needed a magnifying glass even after i stretched it across the screen.please dont fix what is not broken ccp.

Lavias Wolf
Posted - 2011.01.27 17:31:00 - [170]

First of all its a very good Idea and a good start of makeing Contracts!

But the search options still missing some essential stuff.

Item Type : (T1|T2|Faction|Deadspace|Officer)

Since the Contracts are mainly used to find Stuff wich issnt accsessable on the market, this is very important!

Blueprints as a main categoryBP(Coppy|Original) or Item
Since an another BIG part of contracts are Blueprints, BPCs and teched BPOs it is very important to have a good search for Blueprints.
You should have a option to choose: Blueprints(Coppy) + Faction + Ships =Showing all factionship BPC's
(in this case maybe the Database need a change ... i assume Blueprints doesnt have their Product they make as an searchable Attribute.
If you are really changing Blueprint Database attributes, you can also add Runs, ME, PE as searchable attribute for the future --- to make it possible to set up buy orders for specific BPCs!

Why not use the ketegorys of the market also for Contract search ?
I want to see all large energy Rig BPCs -> Just choose BP(Coppy) Ship mod+Rigs+energy Rig

ArrowIf you want me to work the total concept out with Searchtrees + SQL Database requests just send me an ingame message and i do that ... i have a lot of free time atm and some experience in that.

Antihrist Pripravnik
Scorpion Road Industry
Posted - 2011.01.27 17:38:00 - [171]

Like Ellie mentioned, yes... descriptions are very useful when you have to sell (or buy) specific groups of items. For example, finding capital construction BPC packs is much easier by searching by description. Now, I know that some players like to use the description field for scamming purposes, but that's not the reason for removing it.

Concerning "Search" button and its look, I look at it as "EVE interface 2.0" and have nothing against it. In fact, I would love to see a complete interface look redesign with the new style - nice, big buttons with bigger fonts (even if it's optional). Monitor sizes and screen resolutions got much bigger than they were 4-5 years ago and in some cases, the interface is just too small.

Posted - 2011.01.27 17:47:00 - [172]

i do alot of contracting and this feature seems mostly the same as the one we have now but i do like this format better. The only thing i noticed was i couldn't seperate ships from blueprints in my search. Or maybe i haven't found the option yet. Looks good though i like.

Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
Posted - 2011.01.27 18:49:00 - [173]

I like the format a lot. One major thing that is keeping me from using it further is the lacking the ability to just view auctions.

Duke Vael
Nostradamus Effect
Posted - 2011.01.27 19:07:00 - [174]

Edited by: Duke Vael on 27/01/2011 19:07:28
It is awesome guyz!

Thumbs up!

Jinjer Ninja
Posted - 2011.01.27 19:14:00 - [175]

Hi, haven't read all posts. For courier contracts....

What I want is contract is: high sec/low sec option

reward is per 100 thousand ==> million (multiple)

Posted - 2011.01.27 19:18:00 - [176]

Looks great!

Pandorum Invictus
Posted - 2011.01.27 19:37:00 - [177]

Way better, than old one, loads faster also. Nice job CCP!

Dr Qui
Posted - 2011.01.27 20:24:00 - [178]

Edited by: Dr Qui on 27/01/2011 20:27:39
this is a change you made that is less helpfull - for WTB contract, and some of us do alot of them, it used to be that when you looked at an expired one you could copy and paste the name of the item the contract was for. You can no longer do that which means you have to re-enter thename manually which is a real pain when you doing 19 of them and all officer (Thon's Modified Large Graviton Smartbomb) try doing that for 19 different items in Jita with lag with no mistakes; it's awesome

That function is still there in the normal sell contract the "buyer will get" and the item is listed and you can copy and paste the name - please put that back in the WTB so we can copy and past the text for the name of the item

Lex Avril
Posted - 2011.01.27 20:27:00 - [179]

looks cool !

the BPO/BPC view is just what I missed so long, great!

where are the buy contracts?

Brak Morn
Posted - 2011.01.27 20:29:00 - [180]

Just seems so much quicker to find stuff. Thanks!

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