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Jenny Cameron
Caldari
Ordo Eventus
Inception Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.25 10:27:00 - [1]
 

Edited by: Jenny Cameron on 26/12/2010 10:47:19

Hello all,

As we all know, the next upcoming (third) release of Incursions will bring us the new portrait creator, later to be used as 3D character in Incarna.

The problem that a lot of people are facing is that the new options often don't enable you to make a character that even remotely resembles the face you picked when you made your character. With the fourth installment of the editor, options are even more restricted than they were before and a lot of hair colours, eye colours, hairstyles have been taken away and we're often forced into looks we don't want.

Now I don't know if CCP realizes it, but for a lot of people the looks of your character are very important. If I pick a space orc I don't want to be forced into looking like an Eldar with the next installment, or if I pick a Porsche I don't want to be forced to pick a Ford because the developer makes some graphical changes. It greatly takes away from the immersion and ability to identify with your capsuleer.

So what I want to propose is a free one-time option to change bloodlines with the 3rd installment of Incursions.
I can understand changing races will have impact on your racial skills, but bloodlines won't have any impact whatsoever since the differences are purely cosmetic. Nonetheless, if we'd get an optional racial remap that would even be better, of course!!

Thanks for reading.

Edit (thanks Jagga Spikes): CCP allows for portrait swaps but they have to be of the same race, bloodline and gender. Which isn't helpful at all in this case.

from Portrait swap FAQ:
"3. Why does gender and bloodline have to match when swapping portraits?
As bloodline and gender define a lot about your character the portraits that are going to be swapped need to have same bloodline and gender. The swapping is only meant to fix elements you are not happy about with your original portrait creation, it is not meant for gender and ancestry changes."

Jenny Cameron
Caldari
Ordo Eventus
Inception Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.25 10:33:00 - [2]
 

Well that's one vote to start with! Smile

Jennifer Starling
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.25 10:46:00 - [3]
 

I would really have less fun playing EVE if I have to look how I don't want to look so that's a yes from me.

Tres Farmer
Gallente Federation Intelligence Service

Posted - 2010.12.25 10:47:00 - [4]
 

Hm.. I think I want that too. Just as option.

Maxsim Goratiev
Gallente
Imperial Tau Syndicate
POD-SQUAD
Posted - 2010.12.25 11:23:00 - [5]
 

i whanna keep my ******ed picture

Anne Arqui
Minmatar
Diamonds in the Rough Enterprises

Posted - 2010.12.25 11:49:00 - [6]
 

Edited by: Anne Arqui on 25/12/2010 11:50:29

Yessssssss!

Vherorior are unrecognizable in the new editor! I'd like to have a total remake, even another race would be fine!

Joshua Deakin
Posted - 2010.12.25 13:03:00 - [7]
 

Well why not since it doesn't have any effect on gameplay...

Feiryred
Minmatar
EntroPrelatial Vanguard
EntroPraetorian Aegis
Posted - 2010.12.25 13:22:00 - [8]
 

I'm happy with race, but I'd NEVER have chosen this bloodline as my main-so YES I vote for a change!

Kechanski
Posted - 2010.12.25 16:58:00 - [9]
 

Edited by: Kechanski on 25/12/2010 16:57:54
Yes please, Vherokior don't look anything like they used to.

Kersh Marelor
Amarr
Posted - 2010.12.25 17:22:00 - [10]
 

Definately worth the support.

Takashi Kaeda
Posted - 2010.12.25 18:55:00 - [11]
 

+1

Lyn Farel
Knighthood of the Merciful Crown

Posted - 2010.12.25 19:48:00 - [12]
 

Surprisingly enough I think I will for once be happy with my character after these changes, but it has not always been the case and I have felt my starter bloodline choice pretty inadequate in the few last years. So I can definitly understand that.

Salpun
Gallente
Paramount Commerce
Posted - 2010.12.25 22:04:00 - [13]
 

Flexibility is always good.

Gobann Muraco
Minmatar
Confederation Navy Research
Posted - 2010.12.25 22:46:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Kechanski
Edited by: Kechanski on 25/12/2010 16:57:54
Yes please, Vherokior don't look anything like they used to.

Keaton DuCasse
Angry Angels Constructions
Posted - 2010.12.25 22:54:00 - [15]
 

Here we go ... Cool

Decus Daga
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.26 01:12:00 - [16]
 

Yes, yes and yes?!

Trina Selena
Gallente
Equitas Mortalitas

Posted - 2010.12.26 02:47:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Trina Selena on 26/12/2010 02:47:39
This option should DEFINITELY be given.

The starting attributes of all the races have now been equalized.
So I see no harm or game breaking changes if they simply allow us to change our bloodlines/race.

I say let it be an option.

Ebenizer
Minmatar
The Knights Templar
Strategic Operations Brigade
Posted - 2010.12.26 03:01:00 - [18]
 

Signed

Alias 6322A
Posted - 2010.12.26 03:33:00 - [19]
 

Supported

I'd be surprised if CCP hadn't thought of this, but I've not tested the new character creator yet. It would certainly seem unfair that your character's blood-line (effectively only meaningful for RP and looks now) is set in stone such that you may be 'dealt' a creator that has features you don't like.

First: Can you currently pay for a changed portrait? (IIRC, the answer is no but I've never looked into it)

If you CAN: no problem, this should be easy to do much like a 'remap' for your attributes.
If you CAN'T: The system doesn't currently exist to transfer the ID of a character to a new creator and would need to be developed.

I'm all for this and I would hope that this issue has already been taken into account by CCP. +1 for making sure?

Maz3r Rakum
Gallente
The Imperial Fedaykin
Posted - 2010.12.26 04:27:00 - [20]
 

YARRRR!!

Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.26 05:01:00 - [21]
 

Edited by: Atius Tirawa on 26/12/2010 05:02:09
No name change, no bloodline change, no race change - e-bay less.

Jay Wareth
Posted - 2010.12.26 05:20:00 - [22]
 

Originally by: Alias 6322A

First: Can you currently pay for a changed portrait? (IIRC, the answer is no but I've never looked into it)



You can, but I have no idea if you can change your portrait to another race. (I doubt it.)

Regardless, supported.

Terazul
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.26 06:01:00 - [23]
 

Totally supported. If not race (which should totally be allowed, IMO), then at least bloodlines. They serve only aesthetic purposes now instead of mechanical ones, so there's really no reason for forcing us to deal with whatever we get.

Shaera Taam
Minmatar
Minmatar Death Squad
Broken Chains Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.26 07:20:00 - [24]
 

Originally by: Jay Wareth
Originally by: Alias 6322A

First: Can you currently pay for a changed portrait? (IIRC, the answer is no but I've never looked into it)



You can, but I have no idea if you can change your portrait to another race. (I doubt it.)


to the best of my knowledge, the current option in 'account management' allows you to swap portraits from any character to any character, so i don't see any reason why you couldn't 're-make' yourself with a picture from another race...

if i'm wrong about this, someone please, let me know!

Atius Tirawa
Minmatar
Sebiestor Tribe
Posted - 2010.12.26 09:09:00 - [25]
 

Originally by: Terazul
Totally supported. If not race (which should totally be allowed, IMO), then at least bloodlines. They serve only aesthetic purposes now instead of mechanical ones, so there's really no reason for forcing us to deal with whatever we get.


Bold Underline (1) there is actually a large amount of lore in this game and a very active RP element - it is far more then aesthtic for some people.

Bold Underline (2) - whatever we get? You chose your race an your bloodline, so you did not 'get' anything, you 'selected' it. You make it sound random when its not.

And if you bought your character - then you also choise to buy that race and bloodline.

Srsly, the only people who support this bought their characters and want to change stuff because they are unahppy with what they choise to buy. If you want another race, name, bloodline whateve - train one.

Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Spikes Chop Shop
Posted - 2010.12.26 09:16:00 - [26]
 

Originally by: Shaera Taam
Originally by: Jay Wareth
Originally by: Alias 6322A

First: Can you currently pay for a changed portrait? (IIRC, the answer is no but I've never looked into it)



You can, but I have no idea if you can change your portrait to another race. (I doubt it.)


to the best of my knowledge, the current option in 'account management' allows you to swap portraits from any character to any character, so i don't see any reason why you couldn't 're-make' yourself with a picture from another race...

if i'm wrong about this, someone please, let me know!


from Portrait FAQ:
"3. Why does gender and bloodline have to match when swapping portraits?
As bloodline and gender define a lot about your character the portraits that are going to be swapped need to have same bloodline and gender. The swapping is only meant to fix elements you are not happy about with your original portrait creation, it is not meant for gender and ancestry changes. "

assumptions for choice of bloodline is gone. attributes are skills are effectively equal. unless we get to re-choose bloodline, we are forced to have what we don't want.

other option would be to allow more variety within bloodline. a lot of facial features are hard-coded and can't be modified through customization. while this may be fine from Lore point of view, it fails to satisfy player's expectations.

personally, i'm satisfied with Sebiestor new looks, but Vherokior leaves me wanting something else. try as i might, i can't get where i want it.

Artemis Rose
Clandestine Vector
THE SPACE P0LICE
Posted - 2010.12.26 10:54:00 - [27]
 

No

You get to re-make your portrait but you can't actually change who/what you are.

2ool
Posted - 2010.12.26 11:59:00 - [28]
 

Edited by: 2ool on 26/12/2010 12:01:56
Edited by: 2ool on 26/12/2010 12:00:49
Originally by: Atius Tirawa
Originally by: Terazul
Totally supported. If not race (which should totally be allowed, IMO), then at least bloodlines. They serve only aesthetic purposes now instead of mechanical ones, so there's really no reason for forcing us to deal with whatever we get.


Bold Underline (1) there is actually a large amount of lore in this game and a very active RP element - it is far more then aesthtic for some people.

Bold Underline (2) - whatever we get? You chose your race an your bloodline, so you did not 'get' anything, you 'selected' it. You make it sound random when its not.

And if you bought your character - then you also choise to buy that race and bloodline.

Srsly, the only people who support this bought their characters and want to change stuff because they are unahppy with what they choise to buy. If you want another race, name, bloodline whateve - train one.


Point 1 - Fair enough, I'd agree with that.

Point 2 however - Have you tried the new generator? The point is a lot of us (I) chose our avatars based purely on aesthetics, and with the new generator the look of some bloodlines changes drastically, so that you cannot create anything even remotely like your original look.

For those that RP, we're not asking for a forced change lol, you can keep your current bloodline if it suits you, but those of us the created an avatar for a specific look want to be able to keep it... or at least something close.

p.s. I have never bought any characters. Also posted with the wrong char... should have been Kechanski, doh.

Jagga Spikes
Minmatar
Spikes Chop Shop
Posted - 2010.12.26 12:01:00 - [29]
 

Originally by: Artemis Rose
No

You get to re-make your portrait but you can't actually change who/what you are.



portrait IS part of identity. CCP will be changing what we are, one way or the other.

Halcyon Ingenium
Caldari
Bene Gesserit ChapterHouse
Sanctuary Pact
Posted - 2010.12.26 12:26:00 - [30]
 

I support change of bloodline and/or change of race with Incursion Part Three.


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