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michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.20 18:35:00 - [1]
 

With so many guides available...many of which I have skimmed over...I still haven't found one that gives me what I need.

I maybe get one hour a night to play, due to work and home responsibilities.

I am looking for a guide that gives a bit of an overview...summarizing the pros and cons of what different careers offer...or a plan to approach each career, to get one's feet wet in each, and in what order to do it to get the most out of that...etc, etc.

I know everything depends on what one wants to do or achieve.

I like the eye-candy of the environment and don't mind taking my time in exploring this unique environment.

Thanks for any guidance and opinions on this.

Heimdal Galplen
Minmatar
Quality Control.
Posted - 2010.12.20 18:43:00 - [2]
 

Do the tutorial missions, they will give you a better idea than any guide to get you started

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.20 18:49:00 - [3]
 

I have done the first military missions (10 of them) and the industrial missions (10) and am now doing the Sister Eve missions.

The desire for the guides is to be able to read little bits when I am able during the day. I learned my lesson not to play the game while at work...even though time permits. I lost one of my ships when a customer asked me a question when I was trying to warp out of a losing combat situation.

So I am doing what you recommend...but want to learn more about the game when I don't have the time to play with full, uninterrupted, focus.

Thanks for your reply

DCThunder
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.12.20 18:55:00 - [4]
 

Originally by: michaelws
I have done the first military missions (10 of them) and the industrial missions (10) and am now doing the Sister Eve missions.

The desire for the guides is to be able to read little bits when I am able during the day. I learned my lesson not to play the game while at work...even though time permits. I lost one of my ships when a customer asked me a question when I was trying to warp out of a losing combat situation.

So I am doing what you recommend...but want to learn more about the game when I don't have the time to play with full, uninterrupted, focus.

Thanks for your reply


I sent you an Eve mail with some info.

Marcus Atntony
The Element Syndicate
Posted - 2010.12.20 19:02:00 - [5]
 

There are tons of great guides and other articles on the stuff in eve. Usually find that just punching what your looking for into google or evesearch will bring up much of that. Just be sure to check the dates on it as some is out-of-date. There's also some videos on youtube. Best choice starting out would be to look into EvE University maybe as well.

If your really interested in an area of play, and dont want to do the university route, I'd recommend finding a good player corp that fits what you want. Most have group events and helpful members with lists as well as first hand know how.

GL in New Eden.

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.20 19:08:00 - [6]
 

Thanks DC...replied to you in the game. Merry Christmas...have a good vacation. They charged me over 2000 isk to reply in game...is that standard?

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.20 19:10:00 - [7]
 

Thanks Marcus...I have downloaded quite a few of the guides I could find...and I am considering joining a corp...but not until I get more familiar with the gui and some of the procedures...such a using blueprints and such.

thanks for the reply.

De'Veldrin
Minmatar
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
Posted - 2010.12.20 19:33:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: De''Veldrin on 20/12/2010 19:35:12
Originally by: michaelws
Thanks Marcus...I have downloaded quite a few of the guides I could find...and I am considering joining a corp...but not until I get more familiar with the gui and some of the procedures...such a using blueprints and such.

thanks for the reply.


Mara Rinn links in a decent guide on making ISK for new players. I'll see if I can find it, and shoot you a link to it. Also, if you have questions, you can join up on the Eve University in game channel (E-UNI); there are normally lots of friendly people there to ask questions of.

Here's the Isk Guide -> http://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Making_ISK

Hopefully that will also help you as you get started.
Very Happy

DCThunder
Agent-Orange
Nabaal Syndicate
Posted - 2010.12.20 20:14:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: michaelws
Thanks DC...replied to you in the game. Merry Christmas...have a good vacation. They charged me over 2000 isk to reply in game...is that standard?


Yeah, the 2,500 isk email charge is standard. A PITA, but standard. Thanks for the kind words and I'll talk to you soon.

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.20 20:46:00 - [10]
 

Thanks again for all the input...appreciate all of it.

Avo Daith
Public Venture Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.20 20:57:00 - [11]
 

http://www.isktheguide.com/start.html might be the kind of thing you're looking for. Personally I find it a bit over-reaching to try and do this all in one go 9and some of the translation is a little awkward) but its the best attempt at an all-in-one guide I've found yet. And despite the awkward name it is free.

Blackhuey
Posted - 2010.12.20 21:15:00 - [12]
 

The official "careers guide" is a little out of date, but still worth a read. http://www.eveonline.com/careerguide/

Also you might find podcasts a better option while at work - they can be paused when a customer comes along :) My own, Srs Bzns, is specifically aimed at new players. You can find it here: http://srspodcast.com/category/episodes/ Of course, there are lots of other good ones. Lost in Eve is quite newbie friendly too. I have a list up here: http://srspodcast.com/2010/10/podcast-listening-list/

Good luck

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.20 21:28:00 - [13]
 

I have downloaded the isk guide referred to and I also found it a bit cumbersome to read to to translation...but nice compilation which I will eventually wade completely through.

I am now downloading the first podcast. Will be nice to listen to it. I am an oil painter and paint on location in a gallery (hence the reason I can use the computer while at work-I am more a live attraction than an employee and therefore I have wider parameters than others) so it will be great to learn as I paint.

Thanks...

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.20 22:39:00 - [14]
 

Blackhuey...loved your first podcast...painted 2 yellow tangs while listening...and learned a lot. Thanks. Looking forward to listening to the next 3, which I dl'd. Appreciate your taking the time to focus on beginners.

Never knew there were audio references...this will increase the time I have to learn. Thanks again. Highly recommended.

Toshiro GreyHawk
Posted - 2010.12.21 07:31:00 - [15]
 

Edited by: Toshiro GreyHawk on 21/12/2010 07:37:14


Ha! Ha!

Someone older than me! (59)


Do ALL those career agent missions.


Note that each forum tends to have a sticky thread or threads at the top which have resources. So you can look through the various forums (a good exercise in and of itself) and get familiar with their stickies.

There is just a ton of stuff to go through and learn so ... you'll have plenty to keep you busy and - don't worry if it takes a long time to figure things out.




Anything involving combat isn't a good thing to be doing if you are going to be constantly interrupted. If you are - always have a warp out point plotted - and just warp away if you are interrupted.

AFK mining in an industrial is a way of "playing" when you're not really playing. Put a bunch of MLU's in the lows, an Ore Scanner in your mids, a Miner II in your highs, go out and find a nice fat rock and just let your indy mine away while you do something else. Just come check on it now and again to see if your asteroid was depleted or if your cargo hold filled. It won't make you much money per hour - but if you can't really play - it would be better than the NOTHING you'd have otherwise.


Next to that but requiring a little more involvement is mining in a real mining vessel. You could probably do that as it tolerates interruptions fairly well. The only thing that will happen is your cargo hold will fill and your miners will turn off. Here though - you want to be in 1.0 or .9 space - as there are no rats there.

The thing here though - is that if you're not doing Mine & Return, dumping each cargo hold in the base then warping back out to the belt - you'll be putting it in Jet Cans or GSC's. If you use Jet Cans - it's a LOT safer to do that if you are mining in mission space. The trouble there is - you've had to have already run a mission to get that mission space - and that would be vulnerable to the same type of interruptions you had before. The problem with those GSC's is that - you can't anchor it unless you're in .7 space ... and then you've got rats to deal with again.

But - doing Mine & Return - should be a fairly safe occupation as long as you stay in 1.0 or .9 space and will get you a lot more ORE than mining AFK in an Industrial - as long as your interruptions are short. If your interruptions are long - then the Indy might be better but that's the kind of thing you'd need to work out for yourself. You wouldn't have to restrict yourself to either.


Another time - under other circumstances where you're interruptions are less - you could run missions or do whatever you want.


Of course ... in no case do you want to be doing something that is going to get you in trouble with your work ...





GL & Fly Safe.

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.21 08:35:00 - [16]
 

Thanks Toshiro...hope it makes you feel young again! Sure appreciate your lengthy reply...very informative.

Xercodo
Amarr
Xovoni Directorate
Posted - 2010.12.21 10:04:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Xercodo on 21/12/2010 10:05:08
btw yes the 2950 ISK charge is normal

check out this link and search for the keyword "CSPA" on that page

those of us that might have anyone sending them mails or invites set it to 0 out of courtesy hehe

Mandos2k
Gallente
The Scope
Posted - 2010.12.21 14:20:00 - [18]
 

EVE is a complex, rich game and you will probably want to read more than one guide when your interests shift. The following guides are very worth to look at:

Industrial-Sized Knowledgebase 2.0 - A comprehensive guide about pretty much everything.

BattleClinic's EvE-Online Player Guide - Similar to the ISK 2.0 guide but more geard towards new players.

THE BEGINNER'S GUIDE TO PIRACY 2.1 [updated] - A guide about piracy. If you want to live in EVE a must read.

Halada's The Complete Miner's Guide - Everything you want to know about mining.


Happy reading!

Funesta
Posted - 2010.12.21 16:54:00 - [19]
 

If you want something low-risk to do during work, mining in highsec is a great option. So are courier contracts or courier missions.

If you go with mining, you can either mine in a 1.0 system and never worry about any attacks, or you can mine in 0.5 to 0.9 with some combat drones and not worry much about attacks. Down to 0.6 or so, you only need some very basic drone skills and a couple drones to autokill any NPCs that attack you. It's not much for entertainment, but it'll make you a little bit of isk while you're at work with very little effort. If you get interrupted, the worst that can generally happen is you lose some ore to a can-flipper.

Courier missions are even lower risk. Just decline any that take you into lowsec when you might get interrupted. If you search for agent types, you'll find that some agents are part of a division that gives mostly courier missions instead of combat missions. For example, Administration agents give lots of combat missions, and manufacturing agents give lots of courier missions. All you do for these missions is cart something from point A to point B. It's an easy way to get a little standing with a corp and make a little bit of money.

Courier contracts deal with actual players, so they're more of a minefield. However, they can be easy money for hitting the autopilot while at work. Don't accept courier contracts that go to stations with funny names - alphanumeric names instead of real names. Those are scams. Don't take any courier missions into lowsec unless you're sure you can handle it and you're confidant it's legit. It's safe to peek inside the courier package to see if it's more profitable to steal the loot than deliver it. Make sure you watch the volume you have to haul, too - don't accept a contract unless you can fit the entire thing in your hold at once.

Personally, I like courier stuff because I can look at the cool space environments as I fly around.


Otherwise, you really have to pick something YOU enjoy. If you aren't into combat, you can always become a trade baron, or any number of other things.

michaelws
Posted - 2010.12.21 18:13:00 - [20]
 

I am constantly amazed at how much feedback is offered by the Eve community. Thank you all very much. So much food for thought.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2010.12.22 00:13:00 - [21]
 

Exploration is a relatively AFK-friendly career. You'll need minimal starting capital, with the ability to upgrade your ships and equipment as your skills develop. While exploring you get to see lots of eye candy, and take your time about enjoying it.

tagen young
Caldari
The Night Witch
Posted - 2010.12.22 02:53:00 - [22]
 


If you are looking for a site to skim through I would recommend

http://wiki.eveuniversity.org/Main_Page

Its a great resource for new players.

foksieloy
Minmatar
Rockets ponies and rainbows
Posted - 2010.12.22 07:15:00 - [23]
 

Most importantly, EvE is ever changing.

If something works or doesn't work now, that might change in future patches and expansions.
Always keep you eyes open for new ways of making ISK, and never dedicate your training to "cookie cutter of the month" styles. It might not last.

U'chi'ch'a U'chi'k'a'm
Minmatar
Posted - 2010.12.26 20:34:00 - [24]
 

I realize this is not a recruiting forum but you may be interested in checking out the Jolly Codgers, we are a bunch of "old folks" well at least over 30 but you will not be the oldest in corp and family time etc... is first. If interested http://eve-search.com/thread/1405914

Elsa Nietzsche
Posted - 2010.12.28 23:33:00 - [25]
 

Edited by: Elsa Nietzsche on 28/12/2010 23:33:55
As I get older, I find myself wanting more and more information before I get started. The idea is that if i know ahead of time, I can avoid making poor decisions. That said, this is a game. Jump in and get your feet wet. You can't 'mess up'. Enjoy yourself. Do research as it becomes available. The best resources are your in-game contacts. Talk to people. Ask questions.
Realize that the information you get is one person's opinion. You'll have to take it in and use it and see how it works for you.

The one rule you need to follow in eve is this: HAVE FUN


 

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