open All Channels
seplocked Assembly Hall
blankseplocked [Proposal] Dedicated gas cloud harvesting ship
 
This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 
Author Topic

Snyder Aringdon
Gray Rogue Squadron
Posted - 2010.12.16 14:04:00 - [1]
 

With the advent of gas cloud harvesting in w-space, gas cloud harvesting is now a venture that is not limited to the few who are able to scan down drug clouds in the remote reaches of null sec. In other words, anyone with the balls to venture into w-space can gas cloud harvest.

That said, gas cloud harvesting can take a very very long time (c540, anyone?). Being able to fit 5 t2 harvesters on a ship requires a lot of cpu, which limits the ability of pilots to fit a ship for gas cloud harvesting and also support a decent tank (which is arguably more important in w-space than null sec so far as indy-fit ships are concerned). In order to field a decent tank/gas cloud setup, you need to be flying a bs, which is slow to align, relatively expensive to field, and forces indy toons with few or no combat sp to diverge from indy training to get their bs sp skilled up.

I fly cruisers to gas cloud harvest, as they are faster to align/warp out if danger presents itself. However, I am forced to fit 2-3 cpu upgrade mods in order to fit 5 t2 harvesters and a survey scanner. Also, my options are limited to cruisers (or yes perhaps bc's) with the requisite 5 turret hardpoints. This makes tanking impossible.

I propose a dedicated gas cloud harvesting industrial ship which is less expensive to field than a bs and offers cpu bonuses for fitting gas cloud harvesters or a higher base cpu limit. It should also grant bonuses to gas cloud harvester cycle time or yield per cycle, to speed up the extraction process on those pesky 3-digit clouds.

Lilliana Riaghain
Posted - 2011.01.30 20:19:00 - [2]
 

Besides that now that the Noctis has been introduced as well as other specialized ships I believe there should be dedicated gas harvesting platform that gets some sort of bonuses to harvesting. Perhaps create another variation on the Noctis/Primae platform.

Mara Rinn
Posted - 2011.01.30 23:24:00 - [3]
 

Originally by: Snyder Aringdon
I propose a dedicated gas cloud harvesting industrial ship which is less expensive to field than a bs and offers cpu bonuses for fitting gas cloud harvesters or a higher base cpu limit. It should also grant bonuses to gas cloud harvester cycle time or yield per cycle, to speed up the extraction process on those pesky 3-digit clouds.


Just remember that increasing yield/hr will reduce the value of the item you're collecting.

Bunyip
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2011.01.31 02:23:00 - [4]
 

Since gas clouds are kinda restricted/banned in high sec, why not make a pirate vessel which is used for gas cloud harvesting? Everybody knows gas clouds are used to either make drugs or 'forbidden' technologies (given the requirements for production), so it would make perfect sense, and give a new market for pirate vessels.

Normally, I'm against a better ship for such a limited industry, but if it could only be built outside of empire, it would make perfect sense. I envision it as being similar to a Gila in terms of attributes (with a 100 m3 drone bay and 50 m3 bandwidth), but with the following bonuses:

Special Ability: 75% reduction to Gas Cloud Harvester CPU.
Gallente Cruiser skill bonus: 5% to Cargo capacity and Agility per level
Mining Barge Skill Bonus: 5% to Shield Resistances per level

Fournone
Posted - 2011.01.31 02:41:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Fournone on 31/01/2011 02:41:09
+1

also with these new vessels maybe add more uses for gas to keep prices/demand up?

Cassus Temon
Aliastra

Posted - 2011.01.31 07:26:00 - [6]
 

I don't know.. both the Ferox and the Myrmi, make great Gas-Cloud harvesters ;)

I agree of course.. How could I not? A dedicated Gas-Harvesting ship would be a real benefit; receiving benefits related to it's intended purpose. Flying a BC is alright, and it works well enough; but, that's not what it's designed for.

A good Gas-Cloud Harvesting ship would require decent cargo space; and a minimum 5% bonus per level, to either cycle time, or amount. Cycle time might be preferrable; and that's just a bare minimum. It would also have to be fast, with a decent align time; and be capable of sustaining a reasonable tank. Alternatively, it could be capable of warp disruption immunity; or other factors, which would allow it to function in null effectively.

A T3 Industrial, would be nice for that matter; being able to be configured for various exploration tasks. Gas-Cloud Harvesting, Hacking, Archaeology, and mining among them; with changes elsewhere, granting Interdicion immunity, higher agility, and other things. Aside from T3 Frigates, and possibly Destroyers, and possibly Battlecruisers, and/or Battleships; the T3 Industrial ship, would be among the top things, I'd like to see introduced in EVE. Wishful thinking perhap's.

/supported

Kazrael Starseeker
The Night Crew
Posted - 2011.01.31 08:46:00 - [7]
 

Edited by: Kazrael Starseeker on 31/01/2011 08:46:41
Sure, why not. It's the only thing I currently use my Brutix for to be honest. Be nice to have a specific ship.

Skandrannon22
Posted - 2011.02.02 20:49:00 - [8]
 

Agreed.

Supported.

Zephris
Posted - 2011.02.04 18:22:00 - [9]
 

A gas cloud mining ship is indeed curiously missing.

Alain Colcer
Quantum Cats Syndicate
Posted - 2011.02.05 15:29:00 - [10]
 

/supports

Xearal
Minmatar
SOL Industries
Black Thorne Alliance
Posted - 2011.02.05 15:33:00 - [11]
 

/signed

Laechyd Eldgorn
Caldari
draketrain

Posted - 2011.02.06 11:38:00 - [12]
 

I want cheaper boosters.

Aamrr
Posted - 2011.02.06 14:12:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Aamrr on 06/02/2011 14:11:56
I thought the Ferox already did this? (lol ferox Smile)

Ya Huei
Imperial Collective
Posted - 2011.02.07 15:24:00 - [14]
 


Stegas Tyrano
Posted - 2011.02.07 15:28:00 - [15]
 

Supported.

Also a suggestion, seeing as the creation of boosters is illegal why don't you make the ships pirate faction versions of the mining cruisers.

Erika Bronz
Gallente
The Wyld Hunt
Cascade Imminent
Posted - 2011.02.07 16:20:00 - [16]
 


MNagy
Posted - 2011.02.07 18:13:00 - [17]
 

I find it silly that a hulk cannot mine gas faster than a battlecruiser.

Mining is mining - and a mining ship should always outperform any other ship in the game vs mining.

This is not the case with gas harvesting. That I beleive should be fixed before a ship is created just for Gas Harvesting.


 

This thread is older than 90 days and has been locked due to inactivity.


 


The new forums are live

Please adjust your bookmarks to https://forums.eveonline.com

These forums are archived and read-only