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Bodrul
Caldari
Caldari Provisions
Posted - 2010.12.15 22:27:00 - [1]
 

anyone got any suggestions?
mainly solo PVP


Limvala Adur
Gallente
0ne Percent.
Posted - 2010.12.15 22:31:00 - [2]
 

I'm also interested in seeing this. Most people say Drake is OP, but so far I'm yet to see an actual solo fit that get's the "approved" stamp of the community.

If someone can please post the fit for the widely discussed nano-HAM and nano-HM drakes, please?

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.15 22:34:00 - [3]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 15/12/2010 22:35:41
[Drake, HAM Drake]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Reactor Control Unit II
Damage Control II

Large Shield Extender II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Caldari Navy Terror Assault Missile
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5
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This is a pretty bacic Assault Drake, CPU is tight but you can use Meta gear to compensate. It gets around 500DPS and 80k tank.

You can replace the Disruptor for a Scram or the Web for a Painter.

Durin Sarga
Posted - 2010.12.15 22:53:00 - [4]
 

Might want to consider a Cloak instead of Small Nos II. It is really to taste, but if you like solo PvP staying cloaked while you find a target might help disguise what you are in. Just a thought.

For solo PvP the MWD, Web, Disrupt/Scram are pretty standard. The remaining mids on the drake are dedicated to tank in the form of resists or extenders.

The highs will be be all HAM II's or HML II's depending on your skill or range desired. HAM II's are preferred for higher skilled pilots because the range is still pretty decent with near max skills and the improvement in DPS is significant.

Based on your his and mids this will more than likely dictate your lows. Start with Power Diagnostic System IIs to help tank and grid until you have your fitting of hi/mid slots completed. Then start tweaking with Reactor Control units to sub out PDS for ballistic control units. The DCU II is one of those iffy things with the drake. Try to keep fit it on at first, then see where you stand and make an informed decision regarding what you need more of (tank or gank).

Almost all PvP drakes go with 3 x Medium Core Defence Field Extender. Every so often you'll see someone with an Anti-EM screen reinforcer to plug the EM hole.

And thus you have Drake PvP philosophy.

Alara IonStorm
Caldari
Posted - 2010.12.15 22:59:00 - [5]
 

Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 15/12/2010 23:00:58
Originally by: Durin Sarga
Might want to consider a Cloak instead of Small Nos II.

You dion't really want etheir of those, with the Targeting Delay and the lowered sensor strength you will be hard pressed to capture Cruisers and Battlecruisers. It will increase survivability but will mess up your ability to ensnare hostiles, especially at gates. Also the ammount of CPU it eats will furt your fit severly.

The small Nos on the other hand won't save you from a medium neut while a small Neut will **** tackle frigs hard if they try to get in tight.

Durin Sarga
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:04:00 - [6]
 

Yeah, my bad. Read your post wrong. Small neut II works.

The only reason I suggested the cloak was for survivability. I guess it depends how long you plan on roaming lo/null sec with no support. I know several mates who fit the cloak for when the big gangs come through.

You're right. It doesn't help you at all during the actual combat though.

Koshs SC
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:06:00 - [7]
 

Originally by: Limvala Adur
I'm also interested in seeing this. Most people say Drake is OP, but so far I'm yet to see an actual solo fit that get's the "approved" stamp of the community.

If someone can please post the fit for the widely discussed nano-HAM and nano-HM drakes, please?


the community approves the worse setups and fails the best, so i really dont know why you'd want that

Pinky Starstrider
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:08:00 - [8]
 

Edited by: Pinky Starstrider on 15/12/2010 23:09:11
Highs
7x HML II

Mid
2x Stasis Web
1x 24K point
1x MWD
1x Invul
1x LSE

Low
2x Nanofiber
2x BCU

3x extender rigs

Kites ham drakes like the above and laughs at them.

Liang Nuren
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:09:00 - [9]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
...


I personally prefer the 3 BCU, DC II, Named Scram, Named Web variant of this. You don't need a RCU, but you do need a 3% grid implant (IIRC). But, people much better than me don't use that fit. http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=11915381

I give him major props.

-Liang

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:16:00 - [10]
 

I use this.

[Drake, HML]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Y-T8 Overcharged Hydrocarbon I Microwarpdrive
Warp Scrambler II
X5 Prototype I Engine Enervator
Invulnerability Field II
Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
Large Shield Extender II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Salvager I

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I
Medium Core Defence Field Extender I


Warrior II x5


If you are exclusively solo'ing though, may be good to swap to HAMs.

Corporal Punishment08
NosWaffle
Nostradamus Effect
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:18:00 - [11]
 

Originally by: Alara IonStorm
Edited by: Alara IonStorm on 15/12/2010 23:00:58
Originally by: Durin Sarga
Might want to consider a Cloak instead of Small Nos II.

You dion't really want etheir of those, with the Targeting Delay and the lowered sensor strength you will be hard pressed to capture Cruisers and Battlecruisers. It will increase survivability but will mess up your ability to ensnare hostiles, especially at gates. Also the ammount of CPU it eats will furt your fit severly.

The small Nos on the other hand won't save you from a medium neut while a small Neut will **** tackle frigs hard if they try to get in tight.



Beat me to it! Definately a Neut. If you can neut the sucker of all his cap quick enough, it saves you from needing the disruptor active.

Tex Raynor
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:20:00 - [12]
 

Edited by: Tex Raynor on 15/12/2010 23:20:32
keep in mind that although eft shows more ehp when favoring active hardeners vs extenders, extenders make you less vulnerable to neuting. Also, hams take more pg, favoring a tank of active hardeners.

hams vs heavies, as it turns out, balance out if you are ***solo pvping*** when observing the amount of total damage dealt versus your current tank. You may have paper 25% more dps with hams, but you will also have less total buffer.

I'd suggest fit heavies, favor extenders, at least 1 IF, make sure you have a web, long point and MWD. for the lows favor dps, damage control is a personal choice since you are shield tanked, rest fit speed mods if tight on cpu.

edit: rigs are 3 extenders
Strategy-wise, try to kite slower targets, use the web to gain that range if needed, or use it to shoot drones while you kite. Faster targets should die if it's a 1v1 and your skills are above average. Your main weakness is getting webbed/scrammed by a neuting ship.

Lugalzagezi666
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:21:00 - [13]
 

Edited by: Lugalzagezi666 on 15/12/2010 23:25:49
Originally by: TimMc
If you are exclusively solo'ing though, may be good to swap to HAMs.

Depends, in reality ham drake is only better vs bcs.

Originally by: Corporal Punishment08
If you can neut the sucker of all his cap quick enough, it saves you from needing the disruptor active.

Not true.

Nos/neut is situational.

E:
Originally by: Tex Raynor
favor extenders

And i suggest you favor invuls. 2x overheated invuls is really big advantage, since you usually can overheat them for the whole duration of fight.

Tex Raynor
Posted - 2010.12.15 23:43:00 - [14]
 

Originally by: Lugalzagezi666
Edited by: Lugalzagezi666 on 15/12/2010 23:25:49

Originally by: Tex Raynor
favor extenders

And i suggest you favor invuls. 2x overheated invuls is really big advantage, since you usually can overheat them for the whole duration of fight.


you would say 2 perma-overheated IFs for the entire fight will work better than saving the cap usage from one of them? I have not tested the difference when taking overheat into consideration, and it's true that 2 IFs take a long time to burn out. I guess it would depend on thermo/nanite skills. Your technique also frees up some pg, but can it be used to fit a neut with the range at which you will be engaging?

William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
Posted - 2010.12.16 00:02:00 - [15]
 

[Drake, Serious Business]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I



There's a thread about interceptors a couple posts up.

Tex Raynor
Posted - 2010.12.16 01:02:00 - [16]
 

Originally by: William Cooly
[Drake, Serious Business]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Invulnerability Field II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II
Large Shield Extender II

Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
Assault Missile Launcher II, Bloodclaw Fury Light Missile
[empty high slot]

Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I
Medium Hydraulic Bay Thrusters I



There's a thread about interceptors a couple posts up.


So when my tank start to fail against you, I overheat? I turn off some active mods? Or do I just warp away?

Dengen Krastinov
Amarr
SniggWaffe
Posted - 2010.12.16 03:27:00 - [17]
 

Edited by: Dengen Krastinov on 16/12/2010 03:48:37
Originally by: Pinky Starstrider
Edited by: Pinky Starstrider on 15/12/2010 23:09:11
Highs
7x HML II

Mid
2x Stasis Web
1x 24K point
1x MWD
1x Invul
1x LSE

Low
2x Nanofiber
2x BCU

3x extender rigs

Kites ham drakes like the above and laughs at them.


This pretty much everytime. Webs are everything. No kill below would have been possible without them.

Proof
Proof 2
Proof 3

(btw, am I allowed to link killmails as long as they're hyperlinked like this?)

Pinky Starstrider
Posted - 2010.12.16 03:43:00 - [18]
 

Yep the nano drake is pretty much the best drake build around, fleet fights, low man, gate camps, solo you name it and it flies with the best of them.

TheMahdi
Posted - 2010.12.16 05:25:00 - [19]
 

Originally by: Limvala Adur
get's the "approved" stamp of the community.


The community here very rarely agrees on things. And most people just repeat rhetoric without putting any thought behind it just so they can look cool.

Waiting for someone to tell them what is best and why is what is wrong with EVE players and why there are many ships that are severely underestimated in the right fits and with the right tactics.

tl;dr
People are stupid.

Lugalzagezi666
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:14:00 - [20]
 

Originally by: Tex Raynor
...

Oh invuls should last at least 2mins, probably more. They give you 5 + 5k additional ehp and better resists for rr. In bigger fighs drake is never target of neuts, in 1v1s the only bc that realisticaly has chance of capping out drake is dual neut cane. In that case small nos would be helpful to hold scram, because you will win even if in the last 15secs of fight your invuls will be turned off.

And i dont think that drake is able to fit med neut without big sacrifices of his dps/tank.

TimMc
Brutal Deliverance
Gypsy Band
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:20:00 - [21]
 

Originally by: Dengen Krastinov
Edited by: Dengen Krastinov on 16/12/2010 03:48:37
Originally by: Pinky Starstrider
Edited by: Pinky Starstrider on 15/12/2010 23:09:11
Highs
7x HML II

Mid
2x Stasis Web
1x 24K point
1x MWD
1x Invul
1x LSE

Low
2x Nanofiber
2x BCU

3x extender rigs

Kites ham drakes like the above and laughs at them.


This pretty much everytime. Webs are everything. No kill below would have been possible without them.

Proof
Proof 2
Proof 3

(btw, am I allowed to link killmails as long as they're hyperlinked like this?)


Please tell me you are joking. Seriously? Feeling awesome cause you killed 3 frigates with a battlecruiser, or that you killed a carebear fit vagabond? Normal BC fits kill vagabonds if the pilot is stupid, which I expect that one was.

Lugalzagezi666
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:23:00 - [22]
 

Funny that all killed ships were failfits.Laughing


 

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