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Commander Phoenix
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:38:00 - [61]
 

Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Amateratsu

What about if you don't use it, will you get another when the current timer expires?Very Happy


yeah, this. I'm supposed to get a remap tomorrow, i suppose i'm rather boned if this free remap overwrites my current timer Laughing


Well, tomorrow you can tell us if you get 2 remaps or not :D

Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:46:00 - [62]
 

Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.



please let us know why if we all don't get the same free re-map but some of us just get a remap moved up a few months.. that this was a purposeful decision that made you feel like you were treating all equally and that is was the way you would plan the system if programmer effort were not an object.

And if the decision was made to cut a few corners in developer time, please explain why you can't track our original timers and give us the remap that people who had one available got stacked and able to plan for most effective use of the next year.

And if you can't do either... could you please explain we shouldn't consider a company that cuts corners against ideal notions of game play isn't developing a second rate attitude far from the notion of a commitment to excellence.

You have many choices available... thee asiers would bge to give us our orininal dates by eve mail and allow us to petition for the free remap to stack on top of the one we get at the time due.

Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies
Joint Venture Conglomerate
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:51:00 - [63]
 

Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.


So calling it a free remap is a little misleading for many players.

In the case of the OP 6% of a free remap might be a more accurate name.

Sophie Vherokior
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:51:00 - [64]
 

I have to say, this is not a very well thought out 'christmas present' at all. Next time consider just giving a bunch of free skillpoints. Amounts to the same thing in the end, and less hazzle and questions.

/Soph

Noun Verber
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.16 10:59:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: Jackie Fisher
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.


So calling it a free remap is a little misleading for many players.

In the case of the OP 6% of a free remap might be a more accurate name.

You still get it before you were due for another one

Commander Phoenix
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:04:00 - [66]
 

I think next year you shouldn't give anybody a Christmas present. Ungrateful lot that we are ;)

Hemmo Paskiainen
Gallente
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:12:00 - [67]
 

Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.



I have never remapped my character yet, exept yesterday after patch. Will this mean that i can still do 3 remaps after todays patch? In other words are we able to save & collect remaps?

lolioverbidu
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:13:00 - [68]
 

Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.



That is really a terrible way to implement this feature.

You will give some people an advantage over others.

If you had 1 day left of your timer, your free remap will mean nothing at all!

HyperZerg
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:15:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Commander Phoenix
I think next year you shouldn't give anybody a Christmas present. Ungrateful lot that we are ;)


Maybe give every Gallente a 1kk free SP and the others 1 free SP and let us see how "ungrateful" many players are.

I heard CCP gives everyone a free remap, but it seems they only give me a 0,04 free remaps.

Fianna Illyasfeld
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:16:00 - [70]
 

So why are you calling it a FREE remap?

Its not a FREE remap then! It is just a reset of your remap timer.

God damn :/

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:16:00 - [71]
 

Originally by: lolioverbidu
Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.



That is really a terrible way to implement this feature.

You will give some people an advantage over others.

If you had 1 day left of your timer, your free remap will mean nothing at all!



I had almost 11 full months left, I'll be using it.

Fianna Illyasfeld
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:18:00 - [72]
 

Edited by: Fianna Illyasfeld on 16/12/2010 11:18:46
Originally by: Commander Phoenix
I think next year you shouldn't give anybody a Christmas present. Ungrateful lot that we are ;)


You know, I would actually prefer it this way.

My next remap was due in 15 days, and a reset won't really do anything for me except give everyone else a greater advantage compared to me.

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:19:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Fianna Illyasfeld
Originally by: Commander Phoenix
I think next year you shouldn't give anybody a Christmas present. Ungrateful lot that we are ;)


You know, I would actually prefer it this way.

My next remap was due in 10 days, and a reset won't really do anything for me except give everyone else a greater advantage compared to me.


See if waiting 10 days will net you another remap?

Wiki Leaks
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:19:00 - [74]
 

Well I'll be able to tell you in March what CCP Spitfire refused to tell you today.

Best I can do I'm afraid.

Chaos Incarnate
Faceless Logistics
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:20:00 - [75]
 

Originally by: Commander Phoenix
Originally by: Chaos Incarnate
Originally by: Amateratsu

What about if you don't use it, will you get another when the current timer expires?Very Happy


yeah, this. I'm supposed to get a remap tomorrow, i suppose i'm rather boned if this free remap overwrites my current timer Laughing


Well, tomorrow you can tell us if you get 2 remaps or not :D


I suppose I'll have to, if we don't hear from CCP first.

still, i'd like to have two remaps. qq.

Fianna Illyasfeld
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:21:00 - [76]
 

Edited by: Fianna Illyasfeld on 16/12/2010 11:22:22
You guys did not read the topic, He already confirmed that it resets the timer.


Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.



Edit: i get it depends on whether or not the timer is removed just by the presence of the free remap.

We'll see when the servers come up.

Iamien
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:23:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Iamien on 16/12/2010 11:23:34
Originally by: Fianna Illyasfeld
Edited by: Fianna Illyasfeld on 16/12/2010 11:22:22
You guys did not read the topic, He already confirmed that it resets the timer.


Originally by: CCP Spitfire
Hello everyone,

Would just like to confirm that using your free remap will reset your remap timer.



Edit: i get it depends on whether or not the timer is removed just by the presence of the free remap.

We'll see when the servers come up.


Using the free remap resets the timer. If you do not use the remap, the timer does NOT get reset.

Edit: Bleh ninja edit I did not notice.

Fianna Illyasfeld
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:24:00 - [78]
 

I really hope you are right about that

Staggerr
Broski North
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:27:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: Fianna Illyasfeld
I really hope you are right about that


You sound mad.

Boxless
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:28:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Boxless on 16/12/2010 11:28:39
Originally by: Staggerr
Originally by: Fianna Illyasfeld
I really hope you are right about that


You sound mad.

Testies always seem to be mad. the smallest inconvenience is a DISASTER that must be remedied.

Fianna Illyasfeld
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:29:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Staggerr
Originally by: Fianna Illyasfeld
I really hope you are right about that


You sound mad.


so randumb XD

Staggerr
Broski North
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:31:00 - [82]
 

Originally by: Boxless
Edited by: Boxless on 16/12/2010 11:28:39
Originally by: Staggerr
Originally by: Fianna Illyasfeld
I really hope you are right about that


You sound mad.

Testies always seem to be mad. the smallest inconvenience is a DISASTER that must be remedied.


He has a point tho. I now have 3 cyno alts, all with 3 remaps available, oh boy! My main will unlock its remap in march, if this remap is gonna overwrite and cancel the timer, I'll be mad also.

Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:34:00 - [83]
 

I'm gonna rage if my timer will be reset.

Karia Sur
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:34:00 - [84]
 

same with my main, he hasnt got a free remap, its just moved 20 days or so earlier than it was going to be.

Which basically means every one got a brand new shiny toy for Xmas, but the batteries run out at varying timestages. meh.

Staggerr
Broski North
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:35:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: Karia Sur
same with my main, he hasnt got a free remap, its just moved 20 days or so earlier than it was going to be.

Which basically means every one got a brand new shiny toy for Xmas, but the batteries run out at varying timestages. meh.


And the best part is that the new remap timer won't start untill you use this one. Meaning you'll be stuck with whatever you remap for for a whole year. Instead of let's say half a year, when you have trained what you wanted to train.

Keira Matrix
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:36:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Keira Matrix on 16/12/2010 11:38:16
Originally by: Jasdemi
I'm gonna rage if my timer will be reset.



If you use the remap it will reset the timer (does not effect those with more than 1 remap as they should not have a timer).


Edit: Unless you mean at DT, just have to wait and see I guess.

Karia Sur
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:38:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Keira Matrix
Originally by: Jasdemi
I'm gonna rage if my timer will be reset.



If you use the remap it will reset the timer (does not effect those with more than 1 remap as they should not have a timer).


sooooooooooooooooooo, if i wait 20 days for the normal remap to appear, will it still appear and i'll then have 2?

CCP Spitfire


C C P
C C P Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:40:00 - [88]
 

Looks like there is some confusion with how the whole system works. Please let me try to explain.

From the UI perspective, there is no difference between "free" and regular remaps. Using a remap always resets the one-year timer until the next available one. However, the number of remaps does not increment unless you have 0 of them available or you get a free remap from us.

Let's consider the following situations:
1. You have never remapped your character's attributes. As of today, you should have 3 available neural remaps (one that every character gets and two free ones given out by us). If you use one of them today, your one-year timer will start ticking. If a year later you have 0 available remaps, you will get the "regular" one; however, if you will still have available remaps by that date, you will not get an additional one.

2. You had no neural remaps until yesterday, when you have received 1 "free" neural remap. Your next "regular" remap is due on January 5, 2011. If you use your remap today, your timer will be reset, and you will receive your next remap on December 16, 2011. However, you will not get a "regular" remap on January 5, 2011, as you already have a remap available.

TL;DR: As long as you have "free" / "bonus" remaps, you can ignore the timer completely. It only matters when you are out of remaps.

I hope that makes sense.

Keira Matrix
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:41:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: Keira Matrix on 16/12/2010 11:42:31
Deleted as Spitfire posted on this subject

Fianna Illyasfeld
Broski Enterprises
Elite Space Guild
Posted - 2010.12.16 11:41:00 - [90]
 

Originally by: Karia Sur
Originally by: Keira Matrix
Originally by: Jasdemi
I'm gonna rage if my timer will be reset.



If you use the remap it will reset the timer (does not effect those with more than 1 remap as they should not have a timer).


sooooooooooooooooooo, if i wait 20 days for the normal remap to appear, will it still appear and i'll then have 2?


That is indeed the question.


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