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Ki Ann
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:05:00 - [61]
 

ehh, 1,9 mill ofc

smashnecros
Bright Side of Death
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:10:00 - [62]
 

Edited by: smashnecros on 15/12/2010 18:03:04
Originally by: Sinwalker
When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.

+1
yep, what about achura? it seems i had lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!

Rumple Fourskin
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:13:00 - [63]
 

All base attributes now read 17 instead of 20/20/20/20/19 (per the FAQ on skill change) on 2 accounts. This is a loss of about 200 sp a hour? I filed a petition.

Athoba
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:14:00 - [64]
 

I have got the same mac problem: after installing update launching eve blocks the mac completely. I tried downloading the client again but this doesn't work either. Sad

Anyone any ideas on how to solve this?

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:17:00 - [65]
 

Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker
When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1
yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
Nothing new. If you want to remap, you have to put your attributes within the minimum and maximum values: no less than 17 and no more than 27. You haven't lost or gained any points you just have too low base attributes and have to put two points into that lower-than-allowed attribute before you can proceed.
Originally by: Rumple Fourskin
All base attributes now read 17 instead of 20/20/20/20/19 (per the FAQ on skill change) on 2 accounts. This is a loss of about 200 sp a hour? I filed a petition.
Read the FAQ again it's supposed to be 17 across the board (20 etc is after remaps and only applies to new plauers), so you can go ahead and delete that petition.

Jenna Frey
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:18:00 - [66]
 

*Some players were unable to get the Echelon. Please exit the game and log back in the ship will then be offered to you.


My issue was the purloined codebreaker was not offered. Re-logging worked. The item was offered on second attempt to redeem.

Ytamii Arval
Minmatar
Native Freshfood
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:18:00 - [67]
 

Edited by: Ytamii Arval on 15/12/2010 17:27:47
Originally by: AK Wilson
The 17/17/17 etc bug appears to be a display bug.

I had that but when I went into the remap screen (of which I didn't get one) it showed the correct attributes. When I closed the remap screen (having done nothing) the attributes were then displayed correctly.


Okay, this worked for me on my low level alt who actually has remaps available. It didn't work for the high level ones who still have no remaps. But the increases are still much less than the promised +12.

And, as I said earlier, the loss of the training bonus has added about 30% to level 5 training times. Is this intended? I thought the whole point of this was to speed up training for low level characters, but only my high level characters have reduced times.

haggarddecoy
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:21:00 - [68]
 

Got my remap, ship, and codebreaker but no SP. Im sure I went from 11 mill to 9 mill and didn't get reimbursed.Sad

Tarikan
Minmatar
Hardcore p0wnography
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:28:00 - [69]
 

Originally by: Rae Todomi
I'm having the Bulk Data problem that seems to plague patches for me. This time, it gets stuck at 21/46. Any zip files for the bulk data to dl? Thanks.


i have been having the same issues, have you been able to fix it in any way?

Cirquedu freak
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:29:00 - [70]
 

Hi i have a massive problem with the update, the training skill removal did not work at all, i can only train skills like normal, there is no way to add skill points. can someone help?

Edward Olmops
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:30:00 - [71]
 

Question:
I got a free remap. Is that an "extra" remap or did this just finish the cooldown? Until yesterday my next remap was scheduled for January - will I then get a second one or will I only ever get another one 1 year after I used this one?

WolfLeader316
Caldari
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:37:00 - [72]
 

Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker
When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.

+1
yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!


My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.

Everything else in the patch is fine for all my chars, good patch.

ERHLANG
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:39:00 - [73]
 

Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker
When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.
+1
yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!
Nothing new. If you want to remap, you have to put your attributes within the minimum and maximum values: no less than 17 and no more than 27. You haven't lost or gained any points you just have too low base attributes and have to put two points into that lower-than-allowed attribute before you can proceed.
Originally by: Rumple Fourskin
All base attributes now read 17 instead of 20/20/20/20/19 (per the FAQ on skill change) on 2 accounts. This is a loss of about 200 sp a hour? I filed a petition.
Read the FAQ again it's supposed to be 17 across the board (20 etc is after remaps and only applies to new plauers), so you can go ahead and delete that petition.


Can somebody please explain A LOT more clearly how the "change" in attribute distribution is supposed to help existing "non-new" players? Before the patch was deployed my attributes were as follows:
Intelligence: 25
Perception: 17
Charisma: 17
Willpower: 17
Memory: 23

After the patch, nothing has changed! And I do not have an additional remap available (yes, known issue. just stating it has affected me as well).

Again, my question is, how is the "new" attribute distribution supposed to help?

So far I don't see any comparable benefit for having all learning skills trained to Lvl 5. It seems like all CCP has done is reimbursed the skill points? Please explain this clearly, and please oh please don't re-quote your original post. I get it. Explain the comparable benefit introduced as a result of losing our Learning skills (aside from simply being reimbursed the SP's).

Vespoi Filar
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:39:00 - [74]
 

Previous to the 1.0.1 release I had a remap already available and unused.

Does the Free Remap in 1.0.1 mean I now have 2? Or just the one that I hadn't used yet?

Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:40:00 - [75]
 

Bugsd introduced with Failranis and still not fixed:

- Combat log kills/losses is still not sorted on date
- Combat log kills/losses is still full of duplicate entries

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:40:00 - [76]
 

Originally by: WolfLeader316
My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.
If you've never remapped before and have the classic Achura 3pt Charisma (which is now 15), this is entirely as it should be. Just add in the two missing points to bring it up to the minimum attribute value of 17.

Petra Katell
Pator Tech School
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:42:00 - [77]
 

Edited by: Petra Katell on 15/12/2010 17:42:42
Originally by: WolfLeader316
Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker
When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.

+1
yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!


My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.




As Tippia pointed out above, there's nothing to be fixed. Your Charisma is below the allowable base. If you want to remap, you need to put 2 points into Charisma.

edit: nvm


Rasz Lin
Caldari
Uitraan Diversified Holdings Incorporated
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:43:00 - [78]
 

Edited by: Rasz Lin on 15/12/2010 17:44:49
Originally by: ERHLANG

After the patch, nothing has changed! And I do not have an additional remap available (yes, known issue. just stating it has affected me as well).



UI display bug, same with API, API returns pre patch numbers UNTIL you click "REMAP" and then cancel, After you enter remap screen and cancel game refreshes the numbers and API returns real new values (EVEMon was showing prepatch numbers before I did the REMAP/cancel combo)

Its interesting that API still returns Basic Learning skills as Injected but not learned, at least thats what EVEMon shows :)

Tippia
Caldari
Sunshine and Lollipops
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:45:00 - [79]
 

Originally by: ERHLANG
Can somebody please explain A LOT more clearly how the "change" in attribute distribution is supposed to help existing "non-new" players?
It's not. It's supposed to be as close to the previous state of being as possible.
Quote:
After the patch, nothing has changed!
This means it has worked. You had 99 attribute points before (assuming those numbers didn't include any implants); the new system means that everyone has 99 attribute points (without implants), no exceptions.
Quote:
So far I don't see any comparable benefit for having all learning skills trained to Lvl 5. It seems like all CCP has done is reimbursed the skill points?
That is the intention. It's supposed to be just like before, except without any learning skills.

Sinwalker
Caldari
The Kairos Syndicate
Transmission Lost
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:46:00 - [80]
 

Edited by: Sinwalker on 15/12/2010 17:49:16
Originally by: Petra Katell
Edited by: Petra Katell on 15/12/2010 17:42:42
Originally by: WolfLeader316
Originally by: smashnecros
Originally by: Sinwalker
When I go to remap it says I have -2 unassigned attribute points. If I remap I really do lose my 2 points, that sucks! Please help, I would actually like to use my 3 remaps.

+1
yep, what about achura? it's seems i lost 2 points in willpower.. give it back!!!


My achura char (this char, WolfLeader316) also has -2 attribute points available for remap. Please fix.




As Tippia pointed out above, there's nothing to be fixed. Your Charisma is below the allowable base. If you want to remap, you need to put 2 points into Charisma.

edit: nvm




I'm not sure what you're saying, I still have 17 base charisma. It won't let me put those points anywhere (including charisma). After I take them from willpower or memory or whatever they are gone. If I remap, I really have 2 less points total than before. Don't penalize Achura's for being awesome.

Jeff Nelson
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:51:00 - [81]
 

Originally by: Ytamii Arval
Edited to add: just checked my low level alt, who still had the noob bonus, and his training times are much longer now. Example: 2 days longer for Caldari Frigate lvl 5 (increased from 7+ days to 9+ days). So this isn't just a UI problem...

the attribute increases really did come up way short.


There are some really useful graphs showing how this will soon end up working in your favor http://www.eveonline.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=824

Arturo Theese
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:52:00 - [82]
 

tl;dr: I'm down about 165k sp on a level V I was training.

I've been training Gallente Industrial V since 17:36 (UTC) on Dec 2.

New account, new char, using +3 implants and +3 from the cerebral accelerator, no remap, no learning skills - 14/14/14/14/13.

From Dec 2 until the patch, I was accumulating sp at the rate of 60,480 per day (14 + 7 per minute * 60 minutes * 24 hours * 2 for the 100% bonus).

Starting at 181,020 (from IV) and adding 725,760 from Dec 3 - Dec 14 yields 906,780. Add in around 59k for today, for an approximate total of 965,780.

I'm currently at 801,585. I'm down at least 165k points.

DefGab C
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:52:00 - [83]
 

Anybody experiencing missing implants? I got 2 alts with missing +5 implants. All of the implants gone...vamoosh Shocked

MssBagger
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:53:00 - [84]
 

Edited by: MssBagger on 15/12/2010 22:45:56
Edited by: MssBagger on 15/12/2010 22:45:15
Problem solved!

Thx Kelby

Chesty McJubblies
Gallente
Center for Advanced Studies
Posted - 2010.12.15 17:55:00 - [85]
 

Originally by: prayth
Issue:

Was currently training a LVL 5 skill. Before DT it had 5 days ~3 hours till completion. Post patch it is showing as completed in game. I have not applied any unused SP.

Confirmed that the 'new level 5' skill is working as a LVL 5 ingame. (Research Project Management).

Also someone in local reports three lvl 5 skills being completed during DT.


That's a major issue. CCP, please remove this guy's free SP, and make him train it up as normal.

Thanks.

Rolling Eyes

Kelby
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:01:00 - [86]
 

Edited by: Kelby on 15/12/2010 18:01:11
Originally by: MssBagger
Question ---| INFO TO CCP |--- Question

It isent possible to sell Bluprint copies of ships on the market..

the text ** Please repack the item bla. bla. bla.** is comming up..

hard to repack a blueprint hehe


Never done production but i'm pretty sure you can't sell BPC's on the market, Contracts/Trade only.

Jeff Nelson
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:06:00 - [87]
 

Originally by: Arturo Theese
...
I'm currently at 801,585. I'm down at least 165k points.


WAD. Closed/Invalid. See graphs in post directly above yours.

Arturo Theese
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:10:00 - [88]
 

Originally by: Jeff Nelson
Originally by: Arturo Theese
...
I'm currently at 801,585. I'm down at least 165k points.


WAD. Closed/Invalid. See graphs in post directly above yours.


Um, no. I went to bed last night with around 950,000 points in this skill. I now have around 800k. I'm not saying it takes longer, I'm saying points are missing.

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd
Ferguson Alliance
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:13:00 - [89]
 

Edited by: AkJon Ferguson on 15/12/2010 18:15:58
Did you guys bugger up contracts? Sitting in an empty WH system and I can't open up certain public contracts (shuffles through the pile, bar fills, and then nothing.) Tried logging, another account, etc. same result. Was able to open the contract on an empire toon.

Edit: NVM, after a couple of minutes it opened. I guess you're just running WH systems on some of that burned-out hardware or something.


Reverand Alleycat
Posted - 2010.12.15 18:21:00 - [90]
 

I downloaded and installed the update for Mac and when Eve relaunched all I got was a black screen, no log in or even images. Couldn't force quit out of it, had to restart computer with the power button. Every time I tried to launch Eve I got the same black screen. I dumped it all in the trash and now I'm downloading a new client, painfully slow download so we'll see in two more hours if I can get a log in screen at least.


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